Post Match Discussion - Round 23

[Deecisive 1,709]

look on the positive side we get a slightly earlier draft pick. On the negative side we suck big time when we are favorites.  How we can allow sides to come out and blitz us like north and collingwood both did and we fail to fire a shot. i really worry about our so called zone defense, running sides like north and collingwood run around us and over us, they seem to have free men everywhere while our forwards think they are bananas that have to bunch up in the forward line.  you would think that when we bomb it forward that their should be an almost equal opportunity for our forwards, but more often than not the opposition intercepts. where are our forwards?

[Redleg 41,758]

Hibberd, Tyson, Gawn and the two Macs had 3 tackles between them. Says a lot.

Hibberd's disposal has now reached our standards.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,464]

1 minute ago, Deecisive said:

look on the positive side we get a slightly earlier draft pick. On the negative side we suck big time when we are favorites.  How we can allow sides to come out and blitz us like north and collingwood both did and we fail to fire a shot. i really worry about our so called zone defense, running sides like north and collingwood run around us and over us, they seem to have free men everywhere while our forwards think they are bananas that have to bunch up in the forward line.  you would think that when we bomb it forward that their should be an almost equal opportunity for our forwards, but more often than not the opposition intercepts. where are our forwards?

Earlier draft pick? What year is it....

[drdrake 3,187]

As supporters we have held up our end of the club, record attendance at games membership, our off field we will see a good report at our agm, onfield just makes it so hard for our club.  When will our players stand up.

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,619]

Goodwin really owes the supporters an explanation on how a team playing for a finals spot can be out tackled all day by a side playing for nothing but pride? It beggars belief.

We put in the effort and still lose then I'll suck that up. Put in pi$$ weak effort for 90% of the day is just not on.

So gutted by this performance.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

12 minutes ago, qarocks said:

Our biggest problem all year has been going inside 50, and then defending on the turnover.

Utter garbage at both, and they do the same thing over and over each week. Need some massive changes when going forward.

Goodwin in an interview pre game stated the Pies are good starters and yet we go in with the same set up/plan every week.

For crying out loud we didn't need a percentage booster today, how hard is it to come out in the first and make it an absolute scrap?

One thing to adjust during games but another adjusting your game plan midweek to nullify the opposition from the first bounce.

I am so overwhelmed with disappointment right now I could shed a tear. 

 

[ProperDee 1,698]

It has all pretty much been said during the thread but there are a couple of things I struggle with:

1. These guys are full time, professional AFL footballers. Their job is to play footy. How the f*** can they consistently not hit easy targets?

2. I can accept not being as skilful as the opposition.  I can even accept losing. What I cannot and refuse to accept is not busting-your-guts-till-you-vomit effort every game, every season.

We pretty much haven't played as a team all year. We have relied on a few individuals to stand up and win the games.  We have had too many passengers most weeks. I won't name them but there are a few getting games who probably would not at a dozen other teams in the comp. 

[pitmaster 3,588]

Was Tom Mc Donald solely responsable for our whole first Qtr?  That's where the game was lost.

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He sure didn't help.

 

The fact is our failure to put any physical pressure on them in the first quarter cost us the game, but when it was in the balance in the last Tom was a massive handicap.

[Soidee 1,496]

Well well well! The predictable nature of this club once again abandoned its supporter base who continue to stick fat every year.

personally I'm not that surprised and just sat there after quarter time knowing the result.  Too many passengers remain on the list, too many do not have the toughness of a Sydney team to succeed.  Not sure how this ever gets resolved.  Today was an opportunity for this club to put the foot on the throats of a lesser team, they did the complete opposite.  

If by a freak of nature they survive to play finals, they don't deserve to be there.  

This club from Chairman down cannot be trusted to get the job done when it's most needed.  I don't trust this club nor the team and will not trust it until they prove otherwise.  Putrid effort by team and coaches today! 

Message for Jacko and Co, want trust from membership?  Want us to hope?, want us to dream? Want membership to increase?  Win games that are we expect you to win!

I want to trust this mob, just cannot.....they faaaaark it up too often.

 

 

[Webber 10,563]

2 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

Goodwin really owes the supporters an explanation on how a team playing for a finals spot can be out tackled all day by a side playing for nothing but pride? It beggars belief.

We put in the effort and still lose then I'll suck that up. Put in pi$$ weak effort for 90% of the day is just not on.

So gutted by this performance.

Don't forget they had 8 out of their best 22. 

[drdrake 3,187]

Just now, Webber said:

Don't forget they had 8 out of their best 22. 

Yep and we had our best side in

[Pates 9,661]

9 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I have supported this team my whole life and today I am gutted.

I'm not going to go on about any negatives or players or ump decisions. 

I'm just so disappointed with the result that it's gut renching and will stick with me for a long time. 

Not a nice way to end the season. 

I can't remember the last time we had a positive end to a season.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Just [censored]

End

[Soidee 1,496]

7 minutes ago, drdrake said:

As supporters we have held up our end of the club, record attendance at games membership, our off field we will see a good report at our agm, onfield just makes it so hard for our club.  When will our players stand up.

Spot on!  Supporters continue to hold our end up.   I Do not blame any supporter today for wanting to vent!  The players don't want it enough, they are not invested as much as the supporters.  That's the plain truth of it all.

[Beetle 4,692]

1 minute ago, drdrake said:

Yep and we had our best side in

No we didn't. No excuse but Viney wasn't playing. He clearly makes the rest of the insipid duds walk taller.

[Deecisive 1,709]

even if we are fortunate enough to make it through to this years finals, how do you go in knowing you just barely beat this years wooden spooners and we let collingwood run over us like we were not there. What sort of confidence does that give a side going into to a cut throat final. i just dont understand why our players cannot seem to fire up and play football for 4 quarters.

[Pottsydee 153]

Every lessons a good one.

It's a pattern, fold in high pressure situations. 

Imagine first final - Sydney in Sydney 

No thanks.. 

 

 

 

[Demonsone 2,050]

15 minutes ago, Diablo Deemon said:

I want answers and accountability I'm owed a [censored] apology based on what I saw today. 

I want these arrogant non achievers to stand up and explain why after 11 years of [censored] hell they think they can show up and show us no [censored] respect. 

The answers will be at trade week ....

Goody has some challenges in finding the leaders/culture that stops these lapses from occurring....

Very clear that we have huge lapses in our games we have lost in particular our 1st qtrs & even against the Lions & Port we let them back into the game ( though Port is a top team).

[Deecisive 1,709]

our midfield without Jack looks poor. If oliver wasn't there then we would have been decimated. Tyson is questionable he gets the ball but does not control where it goes, his disposal is poor, ANB can be iffy as well. we need another quality midfielder to support Jack and oliver.

[Garbo 1,550]

7 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Yep and we had our best side in

Can't say that after that performance, best side on paper excluding Viney maybe but just like paper they folded. I would rather jkh and his 19 tackles from last weeks vfl game than half the team today 

[GoD's67 111]

5 mins in signs were all bad:

- not running

- no tackling 

- more Pies at ball

Rest of game:

- few tackles (most of which were missed) in 

- contested marking poor

- missed 5 easy shots on goal

- we looked slow 

Shocking effort, all in all!

We need some outside speed & to let a few of the guys who butcher the ball go!

 

[deejammin' 2,374]

I'm not sure what to be more upset by, the result being so predictable or that I spent the entire week hoping the players would finally show up for a game like this. Gutted, I find it very hard to care about what happens from here atm.

[Ash35 425]

23 minutes ago, Pates said:

As for Petracca, he was a big reason why we were back in the game at 3 quarter time. I don't know whether Goody changed things with him or if Buckley sent coverage to him but yeah he was missing badly at the end. He wasn't the only one. He's young though, he'll get better. 

Yep, I wasn't blaming Petracca for the loss. He was one of the few that stood up at different times during the game.

But I thought he had limited impact in the last quarter against NM in Tassie, and today the same. Obviously he is a very good footballer, and I'm sure with more time and preseasons his tank will grow which will help him play 4 quarters.

He could be anything, a real X factor that can really influence the game, not so much an accumulator, so I guess it's more noticeable if he goes missing.

Just a scenario to "hope we don't make it" crew out there, Richmond lose to St Kilda tomorrow, with Dustin Martin doing his hammy. Adelaide beat WCE and Melbourne qualify and are in an Elimination Final match up against the Tigers at the MCG without Martin playing. 

I reckon you'd be pretty happy to be involved in September action then.

[DEE fence 5,042]

it is all part of a cunning plan - easier to beat Port in SA than Sydney in Sudney.... have faith you doubters

 

 

 

 

 

but seriously what a train crash.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Doom and gloom

Anger and tears

Aint over yet