Jump to content

WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN


Dee tention

Recommended Posts

11 hours ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

Brown will play for Melbourne for the next few years.  I'm pleased without being ecstatic.  BUT I'm not ''underwhelmed'' by this bloke, as some seem to be.  In 3 years - 2017-2019 - he kicked the MOST goals in the AFL (188 frigging goals), which is no mean feat.  And he hardly had the best midfield slotting it down his throat.

I watched every one of his 65 goals from 2019 and two thirds did NOT come from leads.  They were a combination of frees, contested marks, tackles, ground balls, and general play.  And plenty of the goals from ''leads'' were not lace-out.  In fact, only a few were.  Plenty were just getting separation with smart leads and speed.

Both Brown and Weideman cover a lot of territory.  It's great that Weideman will get the second tall.  Jackson will relieve ruck, play a bit on-ball, occasionally push deep as well as resting on the bench.  

It's a good get for the MFC.

So where will Tom Play???

Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

No one has done that (as Brown has never won the Coleman). People have questioned the recruitment of Brown who kicked 8 goals in 9 games this season and takes considerable salary cap space.

As long as we are offloading McDonald I am happy enough with a deal for a second rounder.

 

That's not my recollection of the nature of negative comments about Brown.  Most criticism has been that he is a 'one-trick pony'.  The videos indicate that is true only in the sense that his one trick is kicking lots of goals.  

Of course there are questions about his 2020 and injuries etc.  But what better option is on offer?

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, sue said:

That's not my recollection of the nature of negative comments about Brown.  Most criticism has been that he is a 'one-trick pony'.  The videos indicate that is true only in the sense that his one trick is kicking lots of goals.  

Of course there are questions about his 2020 and injuries etc.  But what better option is on offer?

Ha ha , exactly this bloke only knows how to kick goals and can’t  play on the wing.

Pass!!

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

No he just moves half a step to the right, shortens the run up by seven steps, holds the ball eight inches lower and blinks as his foot makes contact with the ball. Simple really. Sorry LH just bored atm.

Edited by Redleg
  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

Not sure how many he's kicked at Bellerive?  pretty bloody rainy and windy here. Hoping the wide forward expanses of the 'G' will only improve his opportunities. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It will be interesting to see if his long distance goals suffer when not playing under the closed roof at Marvel Stadium or if the wind and rain at the MCG reduce his strike rate.

Brown averages 2.6 goals a game at Marvel and 2.1 at the MCG. However he's only played at the MCG 10 times over about 6 seasons which is a  low sample space for a Victorian team.

Has kicked 12 goals against us in four games at the MCG including a bag of 5 and a bag of 4.

He actually made his debut against us in 2014 at the MCG for 1 goal. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites


3 minutes ago, Maxwell Edison MD said:

Not sure how many he's kicked at Bellerive?  pretty bloody rainy and windy here. Hoping the wide forward expanses of the 'G' will only improve his opportunities. 

He averages 1.9 goals a game at Hobart which is below his career average of 2.2

Edited by Bring-Back-Powell
  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Brown averages 2.6 goals a game at Marvel and 2.1 at the MCG. However he's only played at the MCG 10 times over about 6 seasons which is a  low sample space for a Victorian team.

Has kicked 12 goals against us in four games at the MCG including a bag of 5 and a bag of 4.

He actually made his debut against us in 2014 at the MCG for 1 goal. 

So without our games his MCG average is about 1.5 per game.  Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to both the MCG size and weather conditions.

tbh, I don't expect him to be a 60+ goal a year player but 45-50 will be a good return given the other ways he helps the team and if other fwds start doing their bit.

 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He averages 1.9 goals a game at Hobart which is below his career average of 2.2

Thanks mate. If our midfield lower their eyes, he could get that up over 2.5, I'd imagine. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

So without our games his MCG average is about 1.5 per game.  Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to both the MCG size and weather conditions.

tbh, I don't expect him to be a 60+ goal a year player but 45-50 will be a good return given the other ways he helps the team and if other fwds start doing their bit.

 

If both he and Weid can combine for 80-90 goals next season I will be happy. Its pretty exciting the potential of having two genuine targets next year. I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year or if Weid can put together a consistent full season. I think both are possible.

e.g. combinations in 2018

Tmac + Jesse combined for 100 goals

Josh Kennedy + Jack Darling combined for 91

Edited by Yung Blood
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year

Really hoping his 2020 season was a pure write off due to injuries and personal matters rather than a natural decline in his football.

The fact that his goal tally was less than his games tally is a little concerning.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Really hoping his 2020 season was a pure write off due to injuries and personal matters rather than a natural decline in his football.

The fact that his goal tally was less than his games tally is a little concerning.

 

Same here. But I think North were one of the worst performing sides this year. You only need to look at our 2019 to see how players performance can drop off when the whole team is playing so poorly,

There's so much upside still there for him at 27. If we can get 40 goals out of him which I think is entirely realistic if he plays most games then it will be worth it.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

No such thing as a sure thing of course. There is always risk. He had knee and off field issues last year which explains his lower output. Previous to that he was outstanding in a bang average team. As risks go he’s very much on the lower end of the scale and it’s a risk we have to take if we’re serious about breaking into the Top 4.

I’m backing Burgess to get him back into top nick and a 45-55 goal season from our new cult hero!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


19 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Might be the only way of getting him to the club?

 

32 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I hope the chatter about a 5 year deal is wrong. 

I thought i heard 3-4 years earlier in the day on trade radio. :)

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, Matt said:

Just nominate us already

General question:

What benefit is it for a player to publicly nominate a particular club? Assume the answer is they only want to play for that club and want to make their intentions clear to their current club and any other potential suitors.

If that is the case why haven't we been nominated?

Either he's still contemplating other offers or perhaps an in principle deal or dealings between us and North are already in place and there isn't a need to publicly nominate. 

Edited by Lefty
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Yung Blood said:

If both he and Weid can combine for 80-90 goals next season I will be happy. Its pretty exciting the potential of having two genuine targets next year. I know there are big 'if's like if if Ben Brown can get over the injuries that hindered him this year or if Weid can put together a consistent full season. I think both are possible.

e.g. combinations in 2018

Tmac + Jesse combined for 100 goals

Josh Kennedy + Jack Darling combined for 91

even if they combine for 50 goals, it will be about 40 goals we didnt have this year. makes us a 2 goal per game better next year. puts us in more games for longer, possibly wins us some close games eg rich and geel. this is good only if the rest of the comp doesnt improve by 2 goals a game also

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, Demons3031 said:

There will be a few others on this site around the same age as me. I was born in 1950 and saw my first game around 1955-56. Dad pointed out Ivor Warne Smith and the Cordner brothers. I think it was a week or two later I wanted to go to the footy again but Dad (Jack) said no- so I decided to drive there myself- not that I had any idea of how to drive let alone how to navigate to the MCG from Ashburton!! Ha Ha !

I only succeeded in rolling Dads car down the driveway and smashing the front headlight on his car--not a Happy Jack!

Despite the harshness of the last 56 years, I lived through the great era and am so grateful for the memories that provided. I would dearly love another premiership or even a great era again-but if it doesn't happen I will always have those great memories to carry with me. :)

It was a time to remember, formative and successful. Ashburton? Head back down High Street to the Burke Road corner. That's where I grew up, on that corner. As for the Dees in those days, it was terribly difficult not the follow them avidly - such was the rate of success and the virtual control of the VFL, as it was back then. The names of the footballers in our team stand in the memory like monoliths. Moreso, the occasional outings to see a game at the 'G remain indelibly etched on one's brain, particularly after beating the Filth, Essendrug and Footiscray. Thanks for this little missive evoking happy memories, D3031.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    2024 Player Reviews: #18 Jake Melksham

    After sustaining a torn ACL in the final match of the 2023 season Jake added a bit to the attack late in the 2024 season upon his return. He has re-signed on to the Demons for 1 more season in 2025. Date of Birth: 12 August 1991 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 229 Goals MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 188

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 4

    2024 Player Reviews: #3 Christian Salem

    The luckless Salem suffered a hamstring injury against the Lions early in the season and, after missing a number of games, he was never at his best. He was also inconvenienced by minor niggles later in the season. This was a blow for the club that sorely needed him to fill gaps in the midfield at times as well as to do his best work in defence. Date of Birth: 15 July 1995 Height: 184cm Games MFC 2024: 17 Career Total: 176 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 26 Brownlow Meda

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 4

    2024 Player Reviews: #39 Koltyn Tholstrop

    The first round draft pick at #13 from twelve months ago the strongly built medium forward has had an impressive introduction to AFL football and is expected to spend more midfield moments as his career progresses. Date of Birth: 25 July 2005 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 10 Goals MFC 2024: 5 Career Total: 5 Games CDFC 2024: 7 Goals CDFC 2024: 4

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 6

    2024 Player Reviews: #42 Daniel Turner

    The move of “Disco” to a key forward post looks like bearing fruit. Turner has good hands, moves well and appears to be learning the forward craft well. Will be an interesting watch in 2025. Date of Birth: January 28, 2002 Height: 195cm Games MFC 2024: 15 Career Total: 18 Goals MFC 2024: 17 Career Total: 17 Games CDFC 2024: 1 Goals CDFC 2024:  1

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 15

    2024 Player Reviews: #8 Jake Lever

    The Demon’s key defender and backline leader had his share of injuries and niggles throughout the season which prevented him from performing at his peak.  Date of Birth: 5 March 1996 Height: 195cm Games MFC 2024: 18 Career Total: 178 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 1

    2024 Player Reviews: #13 Clayton Oliver

    Lack of preparation after a problematic preseason prevented Oliver from reaching the high standards set before last year’s hamstring woes. He carried injury right through the back half of the season and was controversially involved in a potential move during the trade period that was ultimately shut down by the club. Date of Birth:  22 July 1997 Height:  189cm Games MFC 2024:  21 Career Total: 183 Goals MFC 2024: 3 Career Total: 54 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    BLOODY BLUES by Meggs

    The conclusion to Narrm’s home and away season was the inevitable let down by the bloody Blues  who meekly capitulated to the Bombers.   The 2024 season fixture handicapped the Demons chances from the get-go with Port Adelaide, Brisbane and Essendon advantaged with enough gimme games to ensure a tough road to the finals, especially after a slew of early season injuries to star players cost wins and percentage.     As we strode confidently through the gates of Prin

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    2024 Player Reviews: #5 Christian Petracca

    Melbourne’s most important player who dominated the first half of the season until his untimely injury in the Kings Birthday clash put an end to his season. At the time, he was on his way to many personal honours and the club in strong finals contention. When the season did end for Melbourne and Petracca was slowly recovering, he was engulfed in controversy about a possible move of clubs amid claims about his treatment by the club in the immediate aftermath of his injury. Date of Birth: 4 J

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 21

    2024 Player Reviews: #2 Jacob van Rooyen

    Strong marking youngster who plays forward and relief ruck, continued to make significant strides forward in his career path. The Demons have high hopes for van Rooyen as he stakes his claim to become an elite attacking forward. Date of Birth: 16 April 2003 Height: 193cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 41 Goals MFC 2024: 30 Career Total: 58 Brownlow Medal Votes: 1

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 36
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...