42 minutes ago, Demons3031 said:

Yes Bluey had a great career WJ- and didn't seem too damaged by the Des Healey crash. I loved the fact that he could play both wing, with Brian Dixon on the other, as well as roving/forward pocket swapping with Ian Ridley. Those were great days.

 

Bluey was tough, skilled, keen and had a real go. 

44 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I spoke to someone who knows intricately the Essendrug offer which is 200 Grand per year MORE than ours ! I wont believe hes ours till he signs on the dotted line. ALSO if Geelong dont get Cameron look out! If he doesnt reveal intenrions in a few days it will be telling?

 

 

I can understand the cash side of it, but why would you want to go to Essendrug at the minute with spot fires popping up everywhere?

He would be transferring to a club with the equal amount of complete hopelessness as the club he's come from.

33 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Watched those videos. 60 goals a year....30 of them from staging for frees. Contested marks? Lots of double grabs.

5 years a big investment to simply straighten us up. Underwhelmed

Different to what I watched

28 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

I can understand the cash side of it, but why would you want to go to Essendrug at the minute with spot fires popping up everywhere?

He would be transferring to a club with the equal amount of complete hopelessness as the club he's come from.

They were rubbish this year and haven't they already lost about 4 players?

30 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Bluey was tough, skilled, keen and had a real go. 

There will be a few others on this site around the same age as me. I was born in 1950 and saw my first game around 1955-56. Dad pointed out Ivor Warne Smith and the Cordner brothers. I think it was a week or two later I wanted to go to the footy again but Dad (Jack) said no- so I decided to drive there myself- not that I had any idea of how to drive let alone how to navigate to the MCG from Ashburton!! Ha Ha !

I only succeeded in rolling Dads car down the driveway and smashing the front headlight on his car--not a Happy Jack!

Despite the harshness of the last 56 years, I lived through the great era and am so grateful for the memories that provided. I would dearly love another premiership or even a great era again-but if it doesn't happen I will always have those great memories to carry with me. :)

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

It all gets a bit too complicated for me tbh, but with a fair few academy type picks it also means we may have opportunity trade groups of our picks for higher ones with clubs requiring points though right?

Lucifers Hero explained this in another thread. 

Top picks ( first round mainly) are diluted by NGA picks.  e.g Bulldogs will nominate Ugle-Hagen, but have to use points from their lower round picks.  The picks for other clubs are further being diluted by FA compensation picks being slotted in.  i.e Essendon has already got pick 7...everyone below that has been moved down 1 already.

So say starting with pick 9 in an uncompromised draft, you could finish with a player who would ordinarily be pick 15! ( example only)

However, a pick in the 30's or 40's will become more valuable because clubs like the Bulldogs will have to use their 2nd and 3rd round picks to get the points necessary for the NGA players they want i.e pick 45 may become pick 38.  ( example only)

At the end of the day, first round picks are not something we need to be seeking to trade into this year. 

Edited November 1, 20204 yr by george_on_the_outer

1 hour ago, Chook in Perth said:

Watched those videos. 60 goals a year....30 of them from staging for frees. Contested marks? Lots of double grabs.

5 years a big investment to simply straighten us up. Underwhelmed

Yeah, I noticed the double grabs as well. Hard to maintain balance with Doull, Southby and Perovic rolling onto you. 

Brown will play for Melbourne for the next few years.  I'm pleased without being ecstatic.  BUT I'm not ''underwhelmed'' by this bloke, as some seem to be.  In 3 years - 2017-2019 - he kicked the MOST goals in the AFL (188 frigging goals), which is no mean feat.  And he hardly had the best midfield slotting it down his throat.

I watched every one of his 65 goals from 2019 and two thirds did NOT come from leads.  They were a combination of frees, contested marks, tackles, ground balls, and general play.  And plenty of the goals from ''leads'' were not lace-out.  In fact, only a few were.  Plenty were just getting separation with smart leads and speed.

Both Brown and Weideman cover a lot of territory.  It's great that Weideman will get the second tall.  Jackson will relieve ruck, play a bit on-ball, occasionally push deep as well as resting on the bench.  

It's a good get for the MFC.

Each to their own, but I find it staggering that there are any detractors whatsoever. 

11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Anyone know a good barber. Perhaps a number 2 buzz cut 

You don't need a barber, everyone knows real men use the clippers on themselves... to the scalp. No number. 

47 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

Brown will play for Melbourne for the next few years.  I'm pleased without being ecstatic.  BUT I'm not ''underwhelmed'' by this bloke, as some seem to be.  In 3 years - 2017-2019 - he kicked the MOST goals in the AFL (188 frigging goals), which is no mean feat.  And he hardly had the best midfield slotting it down his throat.

I watched every one of his 65 goals from 2019 and two thirds did NOT come from leads.  They were a combination of frees, contested marks, tackles, ground balls, and general play.  And plenty of the goals from ''leads'' were not lace-out.  In fact, only a few were.  Plenty were just getting separation with smart leads and speed.

Both Brown and Weideman cover a lot of territory.  It's great that Weideman will get the second tall.  Jackson will relieve ruck, play a bit on-ball, occasionally push deep as well as resting on the bench.  

It's a good get for the MFC.

It is a total myth, that he needs the midfield to kick it straight on his chest on a lead, north never had a midfield full of elite kicks in those years.

Edited November 1, 20204 yr by don't make me angry

21 minutes ago, A F said:

Each to their own, but I find it staggering that there are any detractors whatsoever. 

Has a lot to do with his poor year.  It was a hard enough year already and he had a family tragedy on top of it and the Kangaroos are a rabble.

It is a huge get for us.  Pumped!

why am I having flashbacks to Kelvin Templeton 

6 hours ago, Farmer said:

 No outrage whatever! Just a healthy disagreement.  I don’t regard Weideman as a bad player but I think he has proven to be disappointing. But if Brown, who is purely and simply a FF, comes to Melbourne, where does the Weid play?  He also is a FF. If you say  we have to play Weid at CHF, where does Jackson play? My point is that Tom McD offers much more versatility . Say May breaks a leg in R1 ,Tom can play back , he was a bloody good defender before going forward in 2018

 He's only good kicking for goal. I closed my eyes tighter than when his brothers kicking out from defense. Your right about him playing back there, he can for a fill in but we just don't want him kicking it. 

Who cares how he gets them, staging, double grabs, spoon feed by the umps... does he kick fing goals?! Does he have the potential to kick more goals than our current fwds and help us win games/finals?

$5, I’d like to take that pony for a loooong ride.

22 minutes ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

You don't need a barber, everyone knows real men use the clippers on themselves... to the scalp. No number. 

BREAKING NEWS: Christian Salems haircuts in the hub was the secret to recruiting Ben Brown. Absolute masterstroke Dees. Has taken a haircut in his salary to come over. 

Staggered that anyone could question the acquisition of a former Coleman medalist for the potential exchange of a second round pick. 

The comments about his hair are really cool too. 

54 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

why am I having flashbacks to Kelvin Templeton 

Because you're old ?

Ben  Brown   likes Melbourne it reminds him of North. Only now it will be Melbourne. Staying close to home.

 

4 hours ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

You don't need a barber, everyone knows real men use the clippers on themselves... to the scalp. No number. 

Clippers??? Smash a stubbie and use the broken glass, mate....

6 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

why am I having flashbacks to Kelvin Templeton 

Because Templeton was banged up and about32 when we lured him.

Brownie is  only 27/28 and Burgo has tested him I believe for fitness and all the medics are satisfied he has potentially4/5 years ahead.

6 minutes ago, 58er said:

Because Templeton was banged up and about32 when we lured him.

Brownie is  only 27/28 and Burgo has tested him I believe for fitness and all the medics are satisfied he has potentially4/5 years ahead.

I think Templeton retired at 28-29, we got him when he was 26 but with banged up knees

8 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Lucifers Hero explained this in another thread. 

Top picks ( first round mainly) are diluted by NGA picks.  e.g Bulldogs will nominate Ugle-Hagen, but have to use points from their lower round picks.  The picks for other clubs are further being diluted by FA compensation picks being slotted in.  i.e Essendon has already got pick 7...everyone below that has been moved down 1 already.

So say starting with pick 9 in an uncompromised draft, you could finish with a player who would ordinarily be pick 15! ( example only)

However, a pick in the 30's or 40's will become more valuable because clubs like the Bulldogs will have to use their 2nd and 3rd round picks to get the points necessary for the NGA players they want i.e pick 45 may become pick 38.  ( example only)

At the end of the day, first round picks are not something we need to be seeking to trade into this year. 

Sorry George then why is there a thought that we may Conjure up pick 9 out of Preuss and our second rounder no23?

I thought 23 would be fir Brownie for Norrh!

18 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Sounds good mate.

Just curious, what's your intel on this 'new game plan'?

Cheers.

It's highly scientific, sophisticated and no other coach has ever thought of it. It's called lower your eyes and hit a moving target from 20 metres. 

8 hours ago, Beetle said:

Staggered that anyone could question the acquisition of a former Coleman medalist for the potential exchange of a second round pick. 

The comments about his hair are really cool too. 

No one has done that (as Brown has never won the Coleman). People have questioned the recruitment of Brown who kicked 8 goals in 9 games this season and takes considerable salary cap space.

As long as we are offloading McDonald I am happy enough with a deal for a second rounder.