whatwhat say what 23,866 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 gw$ will be over-indexed for first round picks; they don't need them - they need bodies and experience to allow them to compete in the immediate future preuss and t mac aren't the worst pick-ups 5 Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Dr evil said: So what number are we giving Ben Brown? You're going to jinx us, Doc. Quote
Sydney Pennski 309 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Two Browns and two Smiths would be an interesting combination. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Ben Brown is nearly across the line. I’m tipping we win his signature and it’s announced that he has chosen us by the weekend. Obviously the draft pick exchange imv might take a big more negotiating. 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 I'm 100% happy if a Ben Brown deal is not announced until both clubs have signed the paperwork. I love a club that is a quiet achiever about these things When a player who isn't a FA announces a new club it brings expectations and potentially raises the cost to that club. Patience grasshopper 5 Quote
Dr evil 1,185 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: I think I posted this the other day. The brown and smith deals have nothing to do with McDonald. That money would help with other deals/offering clarry a better extension. 4 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr evil said: I think I posted this the other day. The brown and smith deals have nothing to do with McDonald. That money would help with other deals/offering clarry a better extension. If that’s the case then Tmac should just EFT half his contract to Oliver’s account immediately! 3 1 Quote
Redjacket 760 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dr evil said: I think I posted this the other day. The brown and smith deals have nothing to do with McDonald. That money would help with other deals/offering clarry a better extension. I'm very worried about TMac and his salary biting us. Did we get ahead of ourselves after 2018 trying to lock in a dream team that not only stagnated but went backwards? 2 Quote
Meds 32 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I think the only way we get a first rounder from GWS for TMac and Preuss is if the Giants get an end-of-1st-round compo pick for one of their want-away FA's. Pick 19, which ends up in the mid 20s on the night. Edited October 28, 2020 by Meds 2 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Meds said: I think the only way we get a first rounder from GWS for TMac and Preuss is if the Giants get an end-of-1st-round compo pick for one of their want-away FA's. Pick 19, which ends up in the mid 20s on the night. Pending the contract, they could get pick 9 as compo for Williams. Edited October 28, 2020 by Lord Nev Quote
Redjacket 760 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Honestly, we're in dreamland if we think Tmac & Preuss are worth a first rounder. It does not matter how many second, third or fourth round picks are thrown in. Sure GWS might have a need for a ruck and perhaps a forward or defender but neither would go for a second round pick on their own Preuss might get 3rd round. Neither player could barely get a game this year. If by some chance GWS fell for this we'd definitely be paying for Tom's salary. Quote
Redleg 42,180 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Kelpien said: Honestly, we're in dreamland if we think Tmac & Preuss are worth a first rounder. It does not matter how many second, third or fourth round picks are thrown in. Sure GWS might have a need for a ruck and perhaps a forward or defender but neither would go for a second round pick on their own Preuss might get 3rd round. Neither player could barely get a game this year. If by some chance GWS fell for this we'd definitely be paying for Tom's salary. GWS now will have some cap space with Cameron, Corr, Williams, Caldwell, Hately and others gone. It needs to be used and Preuss and Tom MAC would be useful additions so we won’t be paying any of their salaries, IMO, it is just the trade we get. That said, Tom may be Bomber bound. They have space with Saad and Joe and others leaving. Personally I would prefer him to go to GWS as they don’t have Dodoro. Quote
DeeZee 7,496 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Brown to Melbourne pretty much done. As per Sam Edmond on SEN 16 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, DeeZee said: Brown to Melbourne pretty much done. As per Sam Edmond on SEN Giddy up! Well done Goodwin and co. 4 Quote
Demonland 74,451 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, DeeZee said: Brown to Melbourne pretty much done. As per Sam Edmond on SEN Trade Week doesn't officially start until Wednesday 4th November so that's the earliest we'll get any official confirmation. Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Kelpien said: Honestly, we're in dreamland if we think Tmac & Preuss are worth a first rounder. It does not matter how many second, third or fourth round picks are thrown in. Sure GWS might have a need for a ruck and perhaps a forward or defender but neither would go for a second round pick on their own Preuss might get 3rd round. Neither player could barely get a game this year. If by some chance GWS fell for this we'd definitely be paying for Tom's salary. Not worth a first round pick by themselves, would likely involve our pick 23 (or a future 2nd rounder), and maybe pick swaps on top. 1 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, DeeZee said: Brown to Melbourne pretty much done. As per Sam Edmond on SEN A bit behind @Dr evil given we have had this news for a few days now. Edmond must be scannning this thread for their info which wouldn't suprise me. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,459 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Moonshadow said: On what planet are Preuss and Tmac worth a 1st rounder??? Is it April 1 already? Depends how much GW$ want a Ruckmen & a Key position player. Their needs are different Quote
RedFox 536 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: Depends how much GW$ want a Ruckmen & a Key position player. Their needs are different The combined value of these two would be an early second round pick at best I believe. Particularly if they shoulder the entirety of McDonald's horrible contract. Quote
Dr evil 1,185 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 The ENTIRE selling point for a club to take on Tom McDonalds contract for us is that we won't want anything much in a trade. he's not getting us anymore than a 3rd rounder at best. the only way we get pick 9 is if we offer our 2021 pick as a central piece and build around it 10 Quote
The Lobster Effect 900 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Kelpien said: I'm very worried about TMac and his salary biting us. Did we get ahead of ourselves after 2018 trying to lock in a dream team that not only stagnated but went backwards? Yes. But hopefully GWS to the rescue. Quote
Roost it far 10,159 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 So is offloading TMac needed to secure Brown? Quote
Dr evil 1,185 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Roost it far said: So is offloading TMac needed to secure Brown? No. we can secure Ben Brown and Issac Smith and keep Tom McDonald but it wouldn't allow us the flexibility to re-sign other players and bring in other people that we'd like. particularly Clayton Oliver who it's now clear we are going to try and sign up long term. 3 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,741 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Dr evil said: No. we can secure Ben Brown and Issac Smith and keep Tom McDonald but it wouldn't allow us the flexibility to re-sign other players and bring in other people that we'd like. particularly Clayton Oliver who it's now clear we are going to try and sign up long term. We might try but I doubt he will sign for more than 2 years ie to when he reaches FA. The norm with player manager's is to have the best players contract only to year 8, their FA year. 2 Quote
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