We're interested in Brown, but several things need to happen for a trade to happen.

Salary cap is our main enemy at the moment. We were hoping to get TMac off the books, as apparently we're tight and need to free up some cash in the coming years to hold onto our elite core of Oliver, Trac etc.

If we can fit Brown in, we're keen and have enquired already.

26 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

We're interested in Brown, but several things need to happen for a trade to happen.

Salary cap is our main enemy at the moment. We were hoping to get TMac off the books, as apparently we're tight and need to free up some cash in the coming years to hold onto our elite core of Oliver, Trac etc.

If we can fit Brown in, we're keen and have enquired already.

is this not the case anymore??

19 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

is this not the case anymore??

There's interest and we're still trying to find a deal, but his salary is the sticking point.

3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

There's interest and we're still trying to find a deal, but his salary is the sticking point.

Any news on Smith?

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Any news on Smith?

In talks with I. Smith and a real chance to come across as an UFA.

Haven't heard anything about the big fish Cameron or Merrett.
Others in Saad and Williams both off to Blues. Didn't hear anything about Williams, but heard we enquired about Saad and lost out to Blues.

Brown would be a great get IMO. Tall forward who kicks goals. As long as his body is ok, then he'd be a great get for our struggling and immature forward line.

Edited October 9, 20204 yr by Lord Travis

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

In talks with I. Smith and a real chance to come across as an UFA.

Haven't heard anything about the big fish Cameron or Merrett.
Others in Saad and Williams both off to Blues. Didn't hear anything about Williams, but heard we enquired about Saad and lost out to Blues.

Brown would be a great get IMO. Tall forward who kicks goals. As long as his body is ok, then he'd be a great get for our struggling and immature forward line.

Is Brown a free agent?

Gosh, I hope we walk straight away from this big sideshow bob fella. Would be a costly mistake 

10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Is Brown a free agent?

As far as I know, he's out of contract but not a free agent. 

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

We're interested in Brown, but several things need to happen for a trade to happen.

Salary cap is our main enemy at the moment. We were hoping to get TMac off the books, as apparently we're tight and need to free up some cash in the coming years to hold onto our elite core of Oliver, Trac etc.

If we can fit Brown in, we're keen and have enquired already.

If our salary cap is an issue and impacting our capacity when discussing Brown, we are no chance to enter talks with Cameron unless we shed serious salary. I can't remember the last time this many credentialed key forwards were potentially in the market at once, hope we could get one in.

I like the idea of swapping our future first for their future 2nd. They can death ride us for a top 10 pick, we are aiming to make it pick 14-18 for what will assuredly be pick 19. Then you add our 23 in so they're at least getting a minimum pick 15-20 and satisfying their desire for an outright 1st. We might want a 3rd rounder back though for this year's draft.

Out:

2020 pick 23

2021 Pick 1-18

In:

Ben Brown

2020 pick 40 (Or whatever it is)

2021 pick 19-36

 

Edited October 9, 20204 yr by John Demonic
Clarity

Ben.Brown is only worth pick 23 why all those swaps for?

10 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Ben.Brown is only worth pick 23 why all those swaps for?

NM will not accept 23. Please try again.

4 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

NM will not accept 23. Please try again.

While I'm not a massive fan of Brown, especially as I don't think he fits with our style of play, North have backed themselves into a corner with this.  They have basically told him to move on, so they can't come to the table and demand heaps for him as they don't want him.  

If he wanted out himself then it would be another story, but North have clearly instigated this, so it takes away some of his value in my opinion.

29 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

NM will not accept 23. Please try again.

Why not that's all he's worth they won't be getting a first rounder for him. He had a shocker of a year and is out of contract.

18 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

While I'm not a massive fan of Brown, especially as I don't think he fits with our style of play, North have backed themselves into a corner with this.  They have basically told him to move on, so they can't come to the table and demand heaps for him as they don't want him.  

If he wanted out himself then it would be another story, but North have clearly instigated this, so it takes away some of his value in my opinion.

Is Mahoney really going to take a hard-line approach though, because they don't want him there and have backed themselves into a corner, which came about through contract negotiations and rebuilding, rather than anything attitude based?

I see him taking more of a diplomatic win/win for both parties approach that would see him aiming to get that 23 down to something equating 15-18 to satisfy both parties, be it through pick swaps or a player. Maybe it's splitting hairs anyway. I just hope it gets done.

And my above suggestion would ideally be a swap of pick 23 & 18 for 19, 40, BB and a premiership, with them gambling on us and losing.

I dont think we want both Tmac and Brown. Rather a smaller deadly forward if we keep Tmac and Weid. I have strong hope for Petty as a forward.. 

Edited October 9, 20204 yr by Half forward flank

Dees get Ben Brown + Kangas 2021 3rd round pick

NMFC get Dees pick 23 + Dees 2021 2nd round pick 

Fair deal.  He’s not worth more given his 2020. 
 

Take it or fu&@$)&&ff kangas 

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

NM will not accept 23. Please try again.

They're pushing him out the door, how can they be making demands? They should be expecting a 3rd or 4th rounder for him really

9 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

We're interested in Brown, but several things need to happen for a trade to happen.

Salary cap is our main enemy at the moment. We were hoping to get TMac off the books, as apparently we're tight and need to free up some cash in the coming years to hold onto our elite core of Oliver, Trac etc.

If we can fit Brown in, we're keen and have enquired already.

You'd have to think we might look at Harmes or Brayshaw as tradeable. Harmes' contract, unless it's small, may stand against him. Is this why Harmes was played out of position the entire year? Clutching at straws, AF.

8 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

In talks with I. Smith and a real chance to come across as an UFA.

Haven't heard anything about the big fish Cameron or Merrett.
Others in Saad and Williams both off to Blues. Didn't hear anything about Williams, but heard we enquired about Saad and lost out to Blues.

Brown would be a great get IMO. Tall forward who kicks goals. As long as his body is ok, then he'd be a great get for our struggling and immature forward line.

I'd trade Weideman for Merrett. Essendon need a KPF...

I don't know why we don't just re consider our expectations of Weid and T. Mac, keep developing Jackson up forward and invest heavily in a medium size forward?

Weid and T. Mac can crash packs all day, Kozzy, Fritsch and Trac looked most likely all year. Imagine if we landed De Goey or Papley, both absolute spanners but both are match winners who like Trac can destroy a one on one and free up other forwards.

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

They're pushing him out the door, how can they be making demands? They should be expecting a 3rd or 4th rounder for him really

Because he's a gun

5 hours ago, A F said:

You'd have to think we might look at Harmes or Brayshaw as tradeable. Harmes' contract, unless it's small, may stand against him. Is this why Harmes was played out of position the entire year? Clutching at straws, AF.

I'd trade Weideman for Merrett. Essendon need a KPF...

And who would you replace him with AF ?  Brown ??? We are short of key position players that's why we need Brown as well. And Petty to play!

6 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

I don't know why we don't just re consider our expectations of Weid and T. Mac, keep developing Jackson up forward and invest heavily in a medium size forward?

Weid and T. Mac can crash packs all day, Kozzy, Fritsch and Trac looked most likely all year. Imagine if we landed De Goey or Papley, both absolute spanners but both are match winners who like Trac can destroy a one on one and free up other forwards.

Medium sized forwards and inside mids are what we have an abundance of. 

We need a key forward.

10 hours ago, 58er said:

And who would you replace him with AF ?  Brown ??? We are short of key position players that's why we need Brown as well. And Petty to play!

I'd play Brown and Jackson as the two talls with Petty as back up.

Unsure if this will surprise others as much as it did myself but Browns contested mark % stacks up against most of the key power forwards. I have always thought of him primarily as a leading mark (which would straighten us up). He also averages the highest “frees for” of key forwards.