15 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

So I take it you were all over the constant Omac and Bugg out then?

JKH sent back to Casey to work on his game, read Plapp's reports

It beggars belief stiil on this forum that postrrs think a player can't improve

Not sure who or what rattled your cage but two things are clear: a) clearly quantity doesn't always mean you should expect quality. In posts that is..... and b) you should read before quoting others in future.

I stand by my comment wholeheartedly - I am aware JKH has been playing well in the 2's but in my opinion is not up to the quality of football we have played the last 2 weeks. And I hope he's not picked.

 

7 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Jones and Watts will both play is my prediction. Jones looked like a corky in the collision with Lin Jong and Watts had a little hammy tightness - said he was fine.

Gawn to replace ANB and Stretch to replace Harmes who looked shot. And certainly Stretch if Hunt doesn't come up.

Watts yes, Jones won't play.

We are the number one side for pressure acts in the competition and the 3 main contributors are Viney, Oliver and ANB - I can't see Nibbler being dropped any time soon for this reason,

14 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

We are the number one side for pressure acts in the competition and the 3 main contributors are Viney, Oliver and ANB - I can't see Nibbler being dropped any time soon for this reason,

This is true, Nibbler has been good in this respect. But he doesn't seem to be doing enough when he gets his hands on the ball. He's actually seeing enough of it, but they seem like nothing possessions. 

I wouldn't be shocked if he's omitted (unluckily). JHK went to the VFL after his games earlier this year were just nothing performances, since then he's been showing some consistent form. He will be given another crack at some point but I'd be cautious about bringing him in for this one. 

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Watts yes, Jones won't play.

Both watts and jones wont play. Watts has a hamstring strain and wont be risked. Gawn and JKH will come in

JKH is a good VFL player but he's not up to making it at the next level. Happy to be proven wrong, but I won't be. 

Edited June 19, 20178 yr by Ethan Tremblay

11 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

The last time we played a game without Nathan Jones was round 5, 2012. We were 0-4 at that stage and went on to lose our first 9 games that year

 

In: Gawn

Out: Jones

Trac, Tyson and Lewis to step up and get extra midfield minutes

Jones injury aside, I think Mark Neeld had a bit to do with that win-loss record.

 

 

Edited June 19, 20178 yr by Ron Burgundy

I keep reading in this thread about the concern of a "long trip to WA". I hope it's only supporters who even think that it's a concern. West Coast and Freo cope with this "long trip" every two weeks or so. If they can do it, we can do it. And we only have to do it a couple of times per season. If our team's mindset is somehow compromised by this concern then we're not yet ready to be a power club. 

Is there still noone predicting the Trengove for Jones smokey?

All this talk of Gawn back this week.  He should go back to Casey and fight for his spot in the side like everyone else - his replacementson Pedo and T Mac are getting the job done at the moment:

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/gawn-replacements-starring-in-player-ratings

43 minutes ago, Pates said:

This is true, Nibbler has been good in this respect. But he doesn't seem to be doing enough when he gets his hands on the ball. He's actually seeing enough of it, but they seem like nothing possessions. 

I wouldn't be shocked if he's omitted (unluckily). JHK went to the VFL after his games earlier this year were just nothing performances, since then he's been showing some consistent form. He will be given another crack at some point but I'd be cautious about bringing him in for this one. 

ANB actually reminds me a little of Jones in he's first 2 or 3 years, he managed to get a bit of it but his disposal was a little off or not that damaging. The difference is Jones was played predominantly in the middle from very early on, I think Nibblers best position will be in and under long term, but he's being given a more suitable introduction to footy. 

Maybe if Jones is out, he's one to get into the middle more?

7 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

All this talk of Gawn back this week.  He should go back to Casey and fight for his spot in the side like everyone else - his replacementson Pedo and T Mac are getting the job done at the moment:

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/gawn-replacements-starring-in-player-ratings

Hilarious. You may want to listen to Jack Viney's thoughts on the value Max will bring and maybe contemplate recent hitout stats... and why they're useful.

8 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

All this talk of Gawn back this week.  He should go back to Casey and fight for his spot in the side like everyone else - his replacementson Pedo and T Mac are getting the job done at the moment:

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/gawn-replacements-starring-in-player-ratings

Forget the champion data stats.

My eyes told me we could have done with Gawn against Collingwood, particularly in the first half...

3 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Hilarious. You may want to listen to Jack Viney's thoughts on the value Max will bring and maybe contemplate recent hitout stats... and why they're useful.

Well, the post was written with my tongue firmly planted in cheek, so glad you got a giggle out of it.  Gawn's ability to put it down the throat of our on ball brigade will be most welcome and perhaps if Jones is 50/50, it may be a good motivation to get him over the line.

What I do think it provides us with is a good opertunity to ease Gawn back into the main role.  Perhaps it could also be used somewhat tacticly to wear down the opposition ruck and use Gawn to full effect when we need him most.

31 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Well, the post was written with my tongue firmly planted in cheek, so glad you got a giggle out of it.  Gawn's ability to put it down the throat of our on ball brigade will be most welcome and perhaps if Jones is 50/50, it may be a good motivation to get him over the line.

What I do think it provides us with is a good opertunity to ease Gawn back into the main role.  Perhaps it could also be used somewhat tacticly to wear down the opposition ruck and use Gawn to full effect when we need him most.

I'm glad there was jest, and you're right about them doing so well that we have options to ease him in. Be harder when Jesse back, but Pedos is playing inspired bullish footy... it's very good.

Edited June 20, 20178 yr by PaulRB

If watts was rested (i.e. with sydney match in focus the week after), then our forward line would be Pedo and Tmac as the talls. I don't mind that given they are both in such good form.

Anyone heard if Kennedy is back for them? really hoping not.

5 minutes ago, Wunders said:

If watts was rested (i.e. with sydney match in focus the week after), then our forward line would be Pedo and Tmac as the talls. I don't mind that given they are both in such good form.

Anyone heard if Kennedy is back for them? really hoping not.

Kennedy is a doubtful starter... I'nm not that fussed even if he shows up . He will be very undercooked if so.

Pedo can be that tall up fwd ..can also wax with Max..hardly an unfortunate situation imho.

I don't think ANB is a great user of the ball but it's partly because he runs hard and is out of breath and when at the bottom of a pack he is under pressure. Over all he is a solid contributor.

3 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

Is there still noone predicting the Trengove for Jones smokey?

The way Trengove has been handled i would say he will be named emergency and make thr trip but not play.

i think jones will be replaced by stretch seems he's the one that comes in and out of the side and has played some good footy at times. I wouldn't mind Trengove for experience and composure with the ball but don't think he will play.

 

14 hours ago, Deeman said:

JKH is a lock given how he's played over the past few weeks at Casey. He will replace Nathan Jones (rested/groin whatever)

Max Gawn's selection has already been announced. Dees will play it safe with Jack Watts (rested/hammy whatever)

Billy Stretch and Josh Wagner are chances as well for two others to be rested or whatever.

Wagner has to play before JKH.  

Journalism at its best.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/eagle-josh-kennedy-in-race-against-time-ng-s-1739285

8 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Journalism at its best.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/eagle-josh-kennedy-in-race-against-time-ng-s-1739285

Jomnes is out for 3-4 weeks with an abductor strain. source is from an ex player.

10 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Journalism at its best.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/eagle-josh-kennedy-in-race-against-time-ng-s-1739285

Is this real?  Surely not.

1 hour ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

The way Trengove has been handled i would say he will be named emergency and make thr trip but not play.

i think jones will be replaced by stretch seems he's the one that comes in and out of the side and has played some good footy at times. I wouldn't mind Trengove for experience and composure with the ball but don't think he will play.

 

One thing about Goody, he swings changes you don't see coming VERY often. Crazy things like Spencer AND Gawn in wouldn't surprise me at this stage. I do reckon he has a thing for JKH. And given the amount of ball he's winning and how he's running out games, I daresay he'll like those young legs in Subi. The Trengove one is a long shot... but I reckon, using reason (which might be useless from my perspective, given Goody has done some wacky things), our greatest strength is clearances and contested possessions. We get slower, a lot slower, with Trenners in there... But in terms of role, there's noone that's like-for-like in the same was Trengove is. Stretch is smaller, quicker and more outside. Likewise JKH. Kent's not inside. Trengove is more mature, and can be given the job of curtailing Priddis, who won't humiliate him on the run. I think I'm reaching, but it's not ridiculous the concept of Trengove playing. Put it this way... if Jones AND, say, one of Oliver, Tyson or Viney couldn't play... then I reckon it would see Trengove in. But that's basically the only circumstance. With that in mind... Like I say... My heart goes with Trengove.

13 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Journalism at its best.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/eagle-josh-kennedy-in-race-against-time-ng-s-1739285

A few hours later, Hun goes with JK a certainty to play. They're different over there in the west, I'll say that much...

5 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Both watts and jones wont play. Watts has a hamstring strain and wont be risked. Gawn and JKH will come in

Massive difference between a hamstring strain and tightness. I'll go with the latter based off the way he jogged off the ground.