They have some depth. In:Mayne ,Cox, Kirby & Fasolo.

How do we typically play off a bye? If we're slow starters most matches then i fear that we'll be asleep again in the first as we 'dust off the cobwebs' on our game style.

Oh and this is the champion data 1st vs 18th midfield battle isn't it? 

Edited June 4, 20178 yr by DominatrixTyson

1 minute ago, DominatrixTyson said:

How do we typically play off a bye? If we're slow starters most matches then i fear that we'll be asleep again in the first as we 'dust off the cobwebs' on our game style.

It's a concern.

Who is taylor adams?

5 hours ago, martin said:

Elliott, Goldsack,Wells & Greenwood all likely to be out.Maybe things turning our way. Also first time in awhile not facing a team on the rebound. Be great if Hogan played!

Massive outs. Especially Elliott. He has single handily transformed their forward line. 

4 hours ago, Soidee said:

Yep! That will resonate throughout dees training  this week!  What a stupid [censored]!

Will it though? I felt a big wave of indifference pass through me when I read it.  I thought it just made him sound like a total moron, especially when you look at his 'success' record as highlighted by Scythe above.

9 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Taylor Adams has lit a fire under the game 

What did he say?

7 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

What did he say?

See post 10 Bandi

Pies midfield has been very good the last month. Wells and Goldsack out is a huge boost for us, not to mention Elliott.  If Greenwood misses too, we will win comfortably IF we turn up to play.  

This is one of those games where we can make a statement and take our chances to jump back in to the 8.... or we can do what Melbourne always does when presented with an opportunity... capitulate.

 

Just feels like a complete set up for us to balls it up!

We will go in as favorites, everyone will tip us, the team will expect to win and BOOM, pies win by less than a goal after a 3qtr time come back from us. Story has already been written.

Now that I have got all the negativity out in the open the opposite SHOULD happen.

10 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

 

Neither has Adams!!

Garry Lyon on SEN said his sources say no Hogan or Gawn for Queen's Bday this morning. I was hoping for one or both.

14 minutes ago, Wunders said:

Garry Lyon on SEN said his sources say no Hogan or Gawn for Queen's Bday this morning. I was hoping for one or both.

Would have thought Spencer the most likely tbh.

 

10 hours ago, martin said:

Adams said that Dunn had not played in "a real successful club and was loving it at Collingwood". Dumb but shouldn't make a difference.Why say it though? Mind u, wouldn't be happy if one our blokes had done the same.Reminds me of Dawes saying that the Hawks were 'ripe for the picking'. We got smashed.

Stupid because Dunn hasn't but neither has Adams. Not too sharp. 

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Would have thought Spencer the most likely tbh.

 

Is there any update on Spencer.

The King was missing for Casey yesterday and their replacement ruck Gach Nyuon went down around half time. It must be  a special strain of the Norm Smith curse that is targeting big men this year.

11 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

 

Dunn. It's all in the name. Just like his team will be come Monday evening next week. 

6 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Massive outs. Especially Elliott. He has single handily transformed their forward line. 

Agree, arguably their most important player. Wells out robs them of a bit of class as well. Sounds as if Goldsack is definitely out as well. 

Leaving aside my obvious subjectively, if you look at this game objectively it sets up very well for a win for the dees, and possibly a big win. Collingwood are a youngish side, travelling back from WA (albeit with an 8 day break), have some key injuries, have been 'up''for a few weeks and playing on emotion and are coming off a tough game where they played a man short for a big chunk of that time and expended a lot of emotional energy.

Collingwood are also probably looking forward to the bye to freshen up, whilst we are coming off a bye and should be fresh. You'd think that the big crowd and big occasion of Freeze 3 at the G will help them avoid a sluggish start. Added to that, yes they are coming off three wins in a row but all all against pretty average sides.  If we get going early i can see us winning pretty well. I haven't looked at the line yet but if i was setting it i would have it as the dees +27.

I just checked the line is at +8 so great value in my opinion as is the +40 at 4.50

Edited June 4, 20178 yr by binman
Checking sportsbet to see what the line is

36 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Is there any update on Spencer.

The King was missing for Casey yesterday and their replacement ruck Gach Nyuon went down around half time. It must be  a special strain of the Norm Smith curse that is targeting big men this year.

Only passing mention in despatches. Back training...drill work , non contact atm. Others suggest that might just have been nature of training ( not protecting as such ) 

Thinking we'll know early this week which way it might go. Handy game on mon not sat...might be the difference.

 

I can see two possible results. We win by 40 odd points or lose a very close one. That has been our lot this season. 

Collingwood still beat Freo with all these injured players on the bench.  When they play us they will have replacements.

10 hours ago, martin said:

They have some depth. In:Mayne ,Cox, Kirby & Fasolo.

I don't fear Mayne and Cox. But then again they are playing us so they could be anything.

 

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Collingwood still beat Freo with all these injured players on the bench.  When they play us they will have replacements.

Was my first thought also.

Second thought was....we couldn't

6 hours ago, Nasher said:

Will it though? I felt a big wave of indifference pass through me when I read it.  I thought it just made him sound like a total moron, especially when you look at his 'success' record as highlighted by Scythe above.

More likely the positioning of our midfield as worst and theirs as best by champion data at the start of the season will give our guys a little nudge.

Don't think that would sit well with Viney, Jones, Oliver and co...

54 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Collingwood still beat Freo with all these injured players on the bench.  When they play us they will have replacements.

It's a good point, but that said, I've often thought it hurts more the next week, especially as Elliott had probably done his damage by the time he got injured.  Wells had hardly touched the footy anyway.

During the game a team's arousal levels are already set for the day and the groove of the match won't usually be shifted (unless your number one ruck goes down before half time).

Starting a fresh game a week later without 3 best 22 players is a different ball game and imo will have an effect.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Agree, arguably their most important player. Wells out robs them of a bit of class as well. Sounds as if Goldsack is definitely out as well. 

Leaving aside my obvious subjectively, if you look at this game objectively it sets up very well for a win for the dees, and possibly a big win. Collingwood are a youngish side, travelling back from WA (albeit with an 8 day break), have some key injuries, have been 'up''for a few weeks and playing on emotion and are coming off a tough game where they played a man short for a big chunk of that time and expended a lot of emotional energy.

Collingwood are also probably looking forward to the bye to freshen up, whilst we are coming off a bye and should be fresh. You'd think that the big crowd and big occasion of Freeze 3 at the G will help them avoid a sluggish start. Added to that, yes they are coming off three wins in a row but all all against pretty average sides.  If we get going early i can see us winning pretty well. I haven't looked at the line yet but if i was setting it i would have it as the dees +27.

I just checked the line is at +8 so great value in my opinion as is the +40 at 4.50

and we lost to 2 out of 3 of these average sides.

emotional big game, whoever goes in harder for longer will win imo

Edited June 5, 20178 yr by DubDee