Changes v Essendon (Round 6)

[beelzebub 23,383]

3 hours ago, A F said:

The man who had it most on the ground in Oliver managed to lay some tackles.

Selective bias, OD.

 

No less selective than comparing two very different roles id suggest.

I wonder why Hibberd was among best on ground..off half back ?

Probably because he beat his opponent(s) hands down.

As OD rightly acknowledges...HE had the ball , they didn't. Supposed to tackle himself ?

[Nasher 33,617]

5 hours ago, Stingray said:

Not sure if I've seen much talk of neal-bullen on here but if he's still having a kick this week then he's luckier than a pocket full of leprechauns. Not since Simon tregenza has there been a worse kick under pressure.

Did Tregenza have a famous shank or something? Pretty random to drop a reference to a forgettable Crows player from the 90s.

[Stingray 157]

Just now, Nasher said:

Did Tregenza have a famous shank or something? Pretty random to drop a reference to a forgettable Crows player from the 90s.

He couldn't kick it more than 25 metres and when he did it went 25 metres straight up and put whoever he was near under pressure.....he was forgettable in every way but how bad he was. Hence why he sticks in my mind whenever I see a poor kick of he footy 

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

5 hours ago, Stingray said:

Not sure if I've seen much talk of neal-bullen on here but if he's still having a kick this week then he's luckier than a pocket full of leprechauns. Not since Simon tregenza has there been a worse kick under pressure.

So the spot up kick to Petracca in traffic and under pressure didn't light your fire?

[Stingray 157]

6 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

So the spot up kick to Petracca in traffic and under pressure didn't light your fire?

His clangers late most certainly didn't

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

5 hours ago, Stingray said:

Not sure if I've seen much talk of neal-bullen on here but if he's still having a kick this week then he's luckier than a pocket full of leprechauns. Not since Simon tregenza has there been a worse kick under pressure.

When I read "Simon" I immediately expected the next word to be Godfrey. I suspect most of Demonland was the same.

Yes, Neal-Bullen has had some poor execution. But for the first time I can remember he's being played on ball and getting heaps of it. I'd like to see him persisted with a bit longer to allow him to build the confidence that comes with not worrying about being selected. Then, if he still butchers the ball too frequently we may need to replace him.  

[old55 23,687]

39 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

When I read "Simon" I immediately expected the next word to be Godfrey. I suspect most of Demonland was the same.

Yes, Neal-Bullen has had some poor execution. But for the first time I can remember he's being played on ball and getting heaps of it. I'd like to see him persisted with a bit longer to allow him to build the confidence that comes with not worrying about being selected. Then, if he still butchers the ball too frequently we may need to replace him.  

Nibbler following in the footsteps of the great MFC servants Hoppy and Godders.

Edited April 28, 2017 by Fifty-5

[Akum 2,660]

On 25/04/2017 at 4:27 PM, Wiseblood said:

Damn.  Let's look at those next 6 weeks:

Bombers - Have Leuenberger with Daniher pinch hitting.

Hawks - McEvoy

Crows - Jacobs and Jenkins

North - Goldstein and Preuss

Suns - Witts

We then have the bye, followed by the Pies on Queens Birthday which Spencer may be ready to go for by then.

The Adelaide/North fortnight scares me in terms of their potential ruck dominance, but the other three don't worry me as much.

This is the important list.

What we need from our stand-in rucks is to just do enough to stop the opposition mids smashing us at clearances.

Has anyone noticed that after Gawn and Spencer went down, for the next quarter and a half of Watts rucking the team actually did better? This isn't because of Watts's ruck supremacy (!!), but that somehow Watts being in the mix at stoppages actually helped with clearances, at least until he tired. So maybe by spreading the load it might be possible to do this for longer.

Generally our best (least worst) option would be a mix of Watts, Pedo, Frost, maybe even T-Mac. Even though they get smashed in hit-outs, those players may help us at least break even at clearances. But against the top flight rucks of Crows & North, this strategy simply won't cut it.

That's when we might have to consider King as the better (less worst) option. He will have had another couple of Casey games by then, with Greg Stafford working with him intensively at training on finding a way of competing that allows him only to nullify his opponent. If Greg Stafford can't work this out, then it can't be done. But if we can keep hit-outs-to-advantage of Goldstein & Jacobs down to under 20, it's a win for us.

[old dee 23,871]

16 hours ago, A F said:

The man who had it most on the ground in Oliver managed to lay some tackles.

Selective bias, OD.

Dangerous going tall at Etihad, I reckon. We ran St Kilda off their feet, because they carried too many talls. Much prefer to go small, as long as we have someone (Frost) to play on Daniher.

It was a small joke A F. I think you need new batteries for your sacasism meter.

[faultydet 7,619]

On 2017-4-27 at 3:06 PM, bing181 said:

So equal highest number of I50's has nothing to do with it then?

Season 2017 Totals/Averages
	GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA AF * SC *                              Average 5 12.2 4.6 16.8    5.6 0 0.2 1.4 0 0.8 1.0 66.2 56.0

 

 

He has been decidedly average for a bloke picked up as a mature age, early round 2 pick.

I would be interested to see how he would fare if our injury list was zero.

 

 

 

 

Wait.

*think*

His realistic competition for a half back spot is Pat McKenna / Josh Wagner / Mitch White.

Forget what I said, I humbly withdraw from the debate. 

[DubDee 26,117]

Never been milkshakes biggest fan but I thought he was better against the tigers. I'm personally happy to keep him in and try to keep the defence stable. 

Harmes etc being dropped is irrelevant 

[old dee 23,871]

10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Never been milkshakes biggest fan but I thought he was better against the tigers. I'm personally happy to keep him in and try to keep the defence stable. 

Harmes etc being dropped is irrelevant 

Yes Especially since there are bugger all alternatives at present DubDee.

[Roost It 1,434]

My current thoughts

Stretch needs the rest

Harmes for Bugg seems fair on form

JKH - Considering his run of injuries he's doing ok. He has talent but needs time. 

Pedersen is borderline AFL

Jones and Viney need to lift 20%

They'll  win this for Jesse Hogan

People on here under rating Hogan need to seek serious help.

we still need more pace and skill

recruit Lever from Adelaide and another class outside mid