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Angus Brayshaw Concussion Issues

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At least the online version of The Age story has the right picture. Today's print edition of The Age includes a picture supposedly of Brayshaw but is actually of Jack Watts. Presumably, the mis-naming, if not the concussions themselves, are all Jack Watts' fault.

 
2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

At least the online version of The Age story has the right picture. Today's print edition of The Age includes a picture supposedly of Brayshaw but is actually of Jack Watts. Presumably, the mis-naming, if not the concussions themselves, are all Jack Watts' fault.

Geez, that's some pretty serious symptoms. One head clash too many and you turn into Jack Watts.

Aaaand - just getting in ahead of the Watts-bashers, it would explain why Watts is so reluctant to get his head over the ball. Ha! :)

 

Meanwhile, I'm going to throw my agreement in with the people noting Brayshaw's neck injury as being maybe related to the concussions since then. If concussion is caused by the jolt to the brain and the bruising impact as it get's thrown against the inside of the skull, then it makes sense that any loss of flexibility around the neck might exacerbate the problem. It's like the 'crumple and cage' principle of car safety, or the way spider's webs work, having a space built to bend and a space built to stay strong. Coconut palms capacity to bend at the same time as being very solid are another example. Hard, soft, hard, soft. If Brayshaw's head and neck are 'hard-hard' instead, it definitely could change the whole way shockwaves move through his head.

11 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Geez, that's some pretty serious symptoms. One head clash too many and you turn into Jack Watts.

LOL

and demonland's reach again amazes me. who'd have thought we had a coconut tree expert in our midst

 
20 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Geez, that's some pretty serious symptoms. One head clash too many and you turn into Jack Watts.

Aaaand - just getting in ahead of the Watts-bashers, it would explain why Watts is so reluctant to get his head over the ball. Ha! :)

 

Meanwhile, I'm going to throw my agreement in with the people noting Brayshaw's neck injury as being maybe related to the concussions since then. If concussion is caused by the jolt to the brain and the bruising impact as it get's thrown against the inside of the skull, then it makes sense that any loss of flexibility around the neck might exacerbate the problem. It's like the 'crumple and cage' principle of car safety, or the way spider's webs work, having a space built to bend and a space built to stay strong. Coconut palms capacity to bend at the same time as being very solid are another example. Hard, soft, hard, soft. If Brayshaw's head and neck are 'hard-hard' instead, it definitely could change the whole way shockwaves move through his head.

Backing that up is the article in the Age suggests they will explore neck strengthening exercises as preventative measure. 

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

At least the online version of The Age story has the right picture. Today's print edition of The Age includes a picture supposedly of Brayshaw but is actually of Jack Watts. Presumably, the mis-naming, if not the concussions themselves, are all Jack Watts' fault.

Just looked now. That is an unbelievable oversight. They don't look anything alike. Man the age has dropped off.


2 hours ago, Dappa Dan said:

Just looked now. That is an unbelievable oversight. They don't look anything alike. Man the age has dropped off.

Could be part of the strike action. All footballer images to be replaced with Jack Watts.

 

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

LOL

and demonland's reach again amazes me. who'd have thought we had a coconut tree expert in our midst

With the ongoing symposium on Llama/Alpaca rearing and the living dictionary of bondage euphemisms here, it's hardly a surprise. Besides, I'm no coconut tree expert, just an interested spectator!

1 minute ago, Little Goffy said:

Could be part of the strike action. All footballer images to be replaced with Jack Watts.

 

With the ongoing symposium on Llama/Alpaca rearing and the living dictionary of bondage euphemisms here, it's hardly a surprise. Besides, I'm no coconut tree expert, just an interested spectator!

pity, we badly need one :)

17 hours ago, Rafiki said:

I don't think the club is somehow owed something from an injury to a player, should Fremantle get an extra pick for Morabito doing his knee 4 times?

Agreed, the only thing this club is owed for is Lumumba

 
3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

LOL

and demonland's reach again amazes me. who'd have thought we had a coconut tree expert in our midst

We know everything here DC ;)

1 minute ago, Roger Mellie said:

Agreed, the only thing this club is owed for is Lumumba

Eddie's not returning my calls..go figure :huh:


4 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

If Brayshaw's head and neck are 'hard-hard' instead, it definitely could change the whole way shockwaves move through his head.

I've often been called soft in the head. After all these years, victory!!!

What, exactly, is the difference between "indefinitely" and "taking it week by week"?

It seems we need to add "indefinitely" to the list of words which have figurative rather than literal meanings. Other words and phrases in this group now include "average" (and "very average"), "ordinary" and, ironically, "literally".

1 minute ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What, exactly, is the difference between "indefinitely" and "taking it week by week"?

It seems we need to add "indefinitely" to the list of words which have figurative rather than literal meanings. Other words and phrases in this group now include "average" (and "very average"), "ordinary" and, ironically, "literally".

It means they don't have a clue to how he will be like next week. Lots of weeks forthcoming. 

It's typical spin by the club.. I rarely believe anything that comes out as a release etc. I'm afraid we're no better than any other club with this sort of info.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-25/demon-mid-back-on-track-after-concussion-setback

Training today by the sounds of things.  I misinterpreted the 'indefinite break' to be including training.  Great to see he still able to maintain the skills and fitness.

56 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What, exactly, is the difference between "indefinitely" and "taking it week by week"?

It seems we need to add "indefinitely" to the list of words which have figurative rather than literal meanings. Other words and phrases in this group now include "average" (and "very average"), "ordinary" and, ironically, "literally".

4 to 6 weeks is definitely indefinite around here according to our injury managers

3 minutes ago, jackaub said:

4 to 6 weeks is definitely indefinite around here according to our injury managers

I think theyve had to come up with an alternative to 4-6.. This phrase has always referred to the idea of a player being out for 4-6 weeks...( but we know better :rolleyes: )

This season I think it now means any given week there are 4-6 PLAYERS out 

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Please pardon any ignorance on my part,   does gus wear a helmet? when he trains or plays.  I have a neighbour who runs a sports wear company  about to release a newish model of a helmet for cricket and rubgy.  Would that help him ?   I would have read all this but too much gardening to get done   Go Dees

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Is Angus wearing a helmet? In training vision he is wearing an MND beanie with what appears to be a chinstrap and a hint of a helmet underneath. I , for one, am hoping so. Whilst there appears to be conflicting medical opinion re the value of helmets for concussion, I think he has little to lose and might give him the added confidence he requires.


43 minutes ago, martin said:

Is Angus wearing a helmet? In training vision he is wearing an MND beanie with what appears to be a chinstrap and a hint of a helmet underneath. I , for one, am hoping so. Whilst there appears to be conflicting medical opinion re the value of helmets for concussion, I think he has little to lose and might give him the added confidence he requires.

Yes he was wearing a helmet thing morning. And was kept out of any competitive drills.

He doesn't really need confidence. He needs technique training, awareness, strength and a bit of good luck. The helmet might help with the latter - it could provide a small amount of cushion for any time he's unlucky to get hit in the head. Otherwise though I hope there's a plan to teach him the rest. A bit of time in the gym to bulk up his shoulders and neck to give him some extra strength for protection. A heap of ground and aerial ball work to allow him to win the ball whilst protecting his head. Then game style training that sees him move and react without leaving his head open for contact. 

I know the conventional wisdom is the helmets don't help with concussion.

...but Paul Callery still swears by his and he's not a stupid person. Maybe it was just luck on his behalf he didn't get any more concussions since wearing it, lets hope the same luck rubs off on Angus.

It also didn't seem to do one of the all time greats, Gary Wilson any harm.

 

Good to see him in a helmet and back training. Hope the club tries everything they can to get him back and playing whilst looking after his safety. He's a talented and driven kid who we invested a pick 3 in so obviously we'd love him to have a long healthy career in the red and blue!

Just now, rjay said:

I know the conventional wisdom is the helmets don't help with concussion.

...but Paul Callery still swears by his and he's not a stupid person. Maybe it was just luck on his behalf he didn't get any more concussions since wearing it, lets hope the same luck rubs off on Angus.

It also didn't seem to do one of the all time greats, Gary Wilson any harm.

Wearing a helmet sometimes encourages players (in all sports) to take greater risks than they otherwise would because of the belief in added protection. I hope Brayshaw doesn't fall for this trap - although I imagine it's more a subconscious thing which may be hard to overcome. Either way, whether he wears a helmet or not, I'm sure we all wish him all the best and hope that he never receives another concussion. 


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