Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, ProDee said: Anyone who thinks that B&Fs are influenced by nothing more than player performance are fools. Adelaide have stupidly reduced his trade value in the name of revenge. Dumb footy! 5 1 Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Doesn’t get top 10 in b&f but want 2 1st round picks, tell em there dreamin 5 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Pick 10 or nadda. Hardball. Overs according to their own last two B&Fs. Can't have your cake and eat it too. 3 Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Deeprived Childhood said: A Team with Sloane, Tex, Crouch, Betts playing for peanuts while in their premiership window, upset that a young player that will reach his peak in 4 years won't help them deliver more premierships in the future on a peanut pay packet. I feel so much sympathy for them. Peanuts hey. No wonder they lost the Grand Final, they must be all monkeys. They say, you get what you pay for. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Agree pick 10 & 45 for Lever 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Which week were they told by his Manager that he was gone? 2 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Moonshadow said: Anyone who thinks that B&Fs are influenced by nothing more than player performance are fools. Adelaide have stupidly reduced his trade value in the name of revenge. Dumb footy! All of those players were better than him this season. Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ProDee said: I'm not sure what the final top 10 is, but here it is with one game to go. He made the AA squad, but not top 10 in their B&F. Hmmm I've said it multiple times, he should not have been in AA squad based on output. A 1st and 2nd is a very generous offer and should be taken off the table if Adelaide don't accept it on the opening day. 2 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, ProDee said: I'm not sure what the final top 10 is, but here it is with one game to go. He made the AA squad, but not top 10 in their B&F. Hmmm Adelaide should be happy with pick 10 only then. Edited October 6, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Watts the matter said: I've said it multiple times, he should not have been in AA squad based on output. A 1st and 2nd is a very generous offer and should be taken off the table if Adelaide don't accept it on the opening day. Agreed pick 10 is fair 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Watts the matter said: I've said it multiple times, he should not have been in AA squad based on output. A 1st and 2nd is a very generous offer and should be taken off the table if Adelaide don't accept it on the opening day. He didn’t make the AA squad, only the 40 man shortlist. Edited October 6, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: He didn’t make the AA squad, only the 40 man shortlist. AA squad refers to the 40man short-list before its culled to make the AA team. 2 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Nascent said: AA squad refers to the 40man short-list before its culled to make the AA team. My apologies for the above, you learn something new everyday. Quote
solly21 91 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Something is not right here. I smell a rat. Don't forget Jack Gunston won the best young Player several years ago at Adelaide & because he requested a trade back home they stripped that award off him. How come Jake Lever was told not to attend yet Charlie Cameron was there & he has requested a trade aswell yet he is contracted. Not sure what to make of all of this Quote
deelete my account 1,194 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Just doing some rough math with Jake Lever's 750k a year contract. It's 6.02% of the salary cap. If we gave them two first round picks and they developed into decent players then they're going to be on 450-550 per year within a few years which is 8.50% of the cap. Whereas #10 and #27 are going to net you a 450-500k a year player and an average to slightly above average players wage at 371k which is going to be around 6.66% of the salary cap. Closer to the mark. Are we paying for his potential? If so then he's going to want 900k a year if he truelly becomes elite. Then that's about 7.23% of the cap. So that would mean Melbourne could possible do a pick swap or upgrade that pick 27 to a pick 22 or so to get the deal done. Two first round picks is still too much. Edited October 6, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 6 hours ago, solly21 said: Something is not right here. I smell a rat. Don't forget Jack Gunston won the best young Player several years ago at Adelaide & because he requested a trade back home they stripped that award off him. How come Jake Lever was told not to attend yet Charlie Cameron was there & he has requested a trade aswell yet he is contracted. Not sure what to make of all of this They've cracked the sads. That's all. 4 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,855 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 lever's season was better than tex, lynch, and arguably betts pick 27 might get the deal done now eh 3 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Lever missed 5 games. On ave. votes per game he came 10th. Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 8 hours ago, solly21 said: Something is not right here. I smell a rat. Don't forget Jack Gunston won the best young Player several years ago at Adelaide & because he requested a trade back home they stripped that award off him. How come Jake Lever was told not to attend yet Charlie Cameron was there & he has requested a trade aswell yet he is contracted. Not sure what to make of all of this It’s hillbilly heaven in Adelaide atm. They r the laughing stock of the afl and deservingly so. Its actually helped me out a smile on my dial which hasn’t happened since rd23. 1 Quote
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Didn't they recruit Matt Crouch with the pick we gave them for Bernie? They should thank us. Pick 45 should get it done. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Didn't they recruit Matt Crouch with the pick we gave them for Bernie? They should thank us. Pick 45 should get it done. Yeah, he slid quite a long way from where he was expected to drafted if I remember correctly Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 11 hours ago, ProDee said: That will help. Makes Matthews comments look like dribble. 2 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 You have to love Demonland. Lever fails to poll in the top 10 at the crows B&F. There are two contradictory responses: It is clear evidence that the crows must have rigged the voting (out of spite? - must be because it makes little sense to deliberately under value him if you know you are going to negotiate draft picks ) because as we all know Lever is one of their best players, an AA no less (yes, yes, i know) who has had the best season ever for any young defender - better than Rance at the same age! Are the crows crazy asking for two first rounders? My response: I'm going to love watching the live stream of the bluey on Monday and watch Tmac's younger brother come top 10 2 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 We shouldn't wait on Adelaide drawing this out until the 11th hour of trade period to get this deal done. Mahoney to come out and publicly say that we'll open to trades with other clubs with 10 and or 27 and pick Jake out of the PSD. 1 Quote
Bring Back Barassi 552 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 What about this scenario: We pull our offer and only offer pick 10 based on BF performance. Crows chuck the sads. JL announces he is going into the draft a la Luke Ball and will only play for the Dees, otherwise will sit out the season. No other side will take the risk and he comes to us at 10 either way. 1 Quote
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