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  On 18/09/2017 at 21:40, spirit of norm smith said:

Lever and crows pick 35 & 53

for 

MFC pick 10 & 27 & 45

Yep bit more like it IMO but still generous.

my crows supporting mate has jake's dad 'liking' pies' facebook pages a month or two before he 'liked' melbourne ones of the same

fwiw, most crows supporters seem certain jake lever is coming to us...just a matter of the deal being done

 
  On 18/09/2017 at 13:12, Dee tention said:

We can give the Crows two first round picks aslong as we are getting picks back with Lever. If Hogan wanted to go back to WA we would want two first rounders also... Fair is fair. Jake is only 21.

I think this works for both parties.

OUT - Pick 10, 45 & 2018 First rounder

IN - Jake Lever, Pick 17, 2018 2nd rounder

2017 Picks remaining after trade - 17, 27, 64, 82

It leaves the MFC in a strong postion to trade for a Gaff or Blicavs.

That's really Lever for pick 10 and 2 pick swaps that basically cancel each other out.  It's going to take more than that.

I dont know why many are absolute that Lever will need such an exorbitant  bounty.

If so..Pig must be the steal of the century !!


From the trade radio launch Paul Connors, who manages Watts and Salem, was asked if Adelaide had asked after either of those players.

He said no, and that Salem would be at Melbourne, but was a little more vague on Watts. He volunteered that while the Crows didn't ask about either of them, they did ask about another player which was quickly rejected.

When later pressed, he basically said that player was Petracca (who he also manages) and that Petracca would never leave the city Melbourne, and then added he thought he'd play his career at the Demons.

So this definitely confirms without doubt Lever to Melbourne is a massive possibility, and Adelaide (well within their rights) are starting at a very high price in return.

  On 18/09/2017 at 23:56, Fifty-5 said:

That's really Lever for pick 10 and 2 pick swaps that basically cancel each other out.  It's going to take more than that.

I'm glad you aren't negotiating for the dees.

wont take more than pick 10 and swap of 2nd round picks  

  On 19/09/2017 at 01:52, bandicoot said:

I'm glad you aren't negotiating for the dees.

wont take more than pick 10 and swap of 2nd round picks  

We'll see.  He's in the same category as Hogan - would you take that for him?

 
  On 19/09/2017 at 02:08, Fifty-5 said:

We'll see.  He's in the same category as Hogan - would you take that for him?

Top key forwards will always be worth more than top backs. Carey and G. Jakovic had great duels and were regarded as the best in their positions for years. Forget the baggage, who do think was worth more on the open market?  Do a quick comparison with todays players.

Ha! I heard Fev the other night describe defenders as forwards with no talent!


I think the key to this trade is Adelaide getting the Dees 2018 1st round pick in a stronger draft. Thats going to be Adelaides priority.

Other pick swaps will be based around that.

 

  On 19/09/2017 at 03:06, Dee tention said:

I think the key to this trade is Adelaide getting the Dees 2018 1st round pick in a stronger draft. Thats going to be Adelaides priority.

 

they want pick 18?

  On 19/09/2017 at 03:09, daisycutter said:

they want pick 18?

Beat me

  On 19/09/2017 at 01:49, Lampers said:

From the trade radio launch Paul Connors, who manages Watts and Salem, was asked if Adelaide had asked after either of those players.

He said no, and that Salem would be at Melbourne, but was a little more vague on Watts. He volunteered that while the Crows didn't ask about either of them, they did ask about another player which was quickly rejected.

When later pressed, he basically said that player was Petracca (who he also manages) and that Petracca would never leave the city Melbourne, and then added he thought he'd play his career at the Demons.

So this definitely confirms without doubt Lever to Melbourne is a massive possibility, and Adelaide (well within their rights) are starting at a very high price in return.

Cheers, Lampers.

The main bit I got out of this is how much Petracca loves the Dees and will play his career here with us.  Love it!

Its going to be interesting to see just how hardball the Dees are willing to play.

I like the idea of lever...not for the farm though

whats our history of horse-haggling with Adelaide like ? ( anyone ) 


  On 19/09/2017 at 01:49, Lampers said:

So this definitely confirms without doubt Lever to Melbourne is a massive possibility, and Adelaide (well within their rights) are starting at a very high price in return.

I think it's beyond doubt that Lever has told the Crows of his intentions to leave, and by the sound of things, he's also told them that Melbourne is his club of choice. 

Would love the deal to get done early in trade week, and save us the anxiety of thinking the deal will fall through.

  On 19/09/2017 at 03:40, mo64 said:

I think it's beyond doubt that Lever has told the Crows of his intentions to leave, and by the sound of things, he's also told them that Melbourne is his club of choice. 

Would love the deal to get done early in trade week, and save us the anxiety of thinking the deal will fall through.

Yep, liking this post.

I would like it to be done early so we can then work on other ways to improve our list.

The more time to do deals the better.

 

There's was a suggestion somewhere that Melbourne might involve one of the northern clubs in the Lever trade, particularly if they had academy players making a bundle of picks attractive than a single higher pick.

Brisbane have Ballenden coming through, and even though he's not tipped to go as high, he's probably the most valuable northern academy player coming through. They also have been linked with Charlie Cameron.

With GWS being excluded from the first round, Brisbane's 2nd round pick has moved up to pick 18, which I can see being used in any potential deal. There does appear to be some form of clear path if the clubs are willing to work with each other.

Adelaide want Gibbs and Carlton played hard ball last year demanding 2 x 1st rounders.  Something like this could play out, noting that unfortunately Carlton do not have a 2017 2nd:

Adelaide: Out: 17 + Lever; In: 10 + Gibbs

Carlton: Out: Gibbs + 2018 2nd; In: 17 + MFC 2018 1st

MFC: Out: 10 + 2018 1st; In: Lever + Carlton 2018 2nd


Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but The Age is reporting that the Crows are so sure of Lever coming to us that that fact prompted their query about the possibility of trading for Petracca or Oliver. They were told no chance on both counts.

  On 19/09/2017 at 05:59, pitmaster said:

Sorry if this is covered elsewhere but The Age is reporting that the Crows are so sure of Lever coming to us that that fact prompted their query about the possibility of trading for Petracca or Oliver. They were told no chance on both counts.

lol they're hilarious. 

Pick 10 and 27 I think it's more than fair. 

  On 19/09/2017 at 03:09, daisycutter said:

they want pick 18?

If we finish top and its pick 18. Then it is 18.

I was thinking it would be more like pick 10-15 in strong draft.

They will want it too trade for Jeremy McGovern.

 
  On 19/09/2017 at 06:05, Abe said:

lol they're hilarious. 

Pick 10 and 27 I think it's more than fair. 

Lever was a pick 14 He's had 1 good year he's not a forward pick 10 and 27 is more than enough 

  On 19/09/2017 at 06:22, Win4theAges said:

Lever was a pick 14 He's had 1 good year he's not a forward pick 10 and 27 is more than enough 

Thats too much. You dont give up two nice assets for Lever.

Thats 2nd rounder has value. 


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