Carlton look like a very good young list. Will be wooden spooners, but are doing the right thing with all the young players getting a game.

Richmond will be a lot better than people think but will continue to do Richmond-esque things and stuff their season up. Their mids and forwards looked ok tonight and Martin is now a superstar, but their defence is an atrocious mess and any good forward line that excells ar contested marking - including ours - will tear them apart. Carlton' skill errors made Richmond look very good at times, much better thwn they actually are. 

11 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Carlton look like a very good young list. Will be wooden spooners, but are doing the right thing with all the young players getting a game.

Richmond will be a lot better than people think but will continue to do Richmond-esque things and stuff their season up. Their mids and forwards looked ok tonight and Martin is now a superstar, but their defence is an atrocious mess and any good forward line that excells ar contested marking - including ours - will tear them apart. Carlton' skill errors made Richmond look very good at times, much better thwn they actually are. 

If Richmonds defense is an atrocious mess with Rance in id hate to think what ours is with the McDonald brothers......

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If Richmonds defense is an atrocious mess with Rance in id hate to think what ours is with the McDonald brothers......

Rance is the only stable part, even though he wasn't great tonight. They seem to harrass and tackle ok, but leave so many open marking opportunities for their opposition. If Rance can't get across as third man up, a good marking team will show up this glaring flaw. 

3 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Rance is the only stable part, even though he wasn't great tonight. They seem to harrass and tackle ok, but leave so many open marking opportunities for their opposition. If Rance can't get across as third man up, a good marking team will show up this glaring flaw. 

Our defense is no different to Richmonds. A big glaring flaw for us too, especially when we get sliced through our zone to leave their forwardout in space.

Our defence is going to be the major weakness for us this year.

Carlton to have five no. 1 picks on the park next year?

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

2 week ban for a reference to toadfish

ill leave it to the mods 

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??

8 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Carlton to have five no. 1 picks on the park next year?

No, cos Gibbs will get his wish and be traded to the Crows.

It was an entertaining game to watch - free flowing and high scoring.

The likes of GW$, Swans, Footscray - basically, any side that puts on a scintilla of pressure - will hammer the both of them.

I was at the game last night with a delighted Richmond supporting mate. Definitely a tad sloppy game at times but it was mostly entertaining to watch. I think Carlton have found a handy backline duo in Marchbank and Plowman. Both seemed to read the play very well.

Edited March 23, 20178 yr by Demon Jack

18 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

I was at the game last night with a delighted Richmond supporting mate. Definitely a tad sloppy game at times but it was mostly entertaining to watch. I think Carlton have found a handy backline duo in Marchbank and Plowman. Both seemed to read the play very well.

Is Carlton running around with half a team made up of GWS rejects? 

the only issue with marchbank and plowman is that they're both more the height and shape of classic third talls, as is weitering.

54 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

I was at the game last night with a delighted Richmond supporting mate. Definitely a tad sloppy game at times but it was mostly entertaining to watch. I think Carlton have found a handy backline duo in Marchbank and Plowman. Both seemed to read the play very well.

If Marchbank could kick, he'd be really dangerous.

7 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

If Marchbank could kick, he'd be really dangerous.

Makes Tommy Mac look like Darren Jarman...

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Our defense is no different to Richmonds. A big glaring flaw for us too, especially when we get sliced through our zone to leave their forwardout in space.

Our defence is going to be the major weakness for us this year.

Are you arriving at this conclusion based of off a few praccy games or the fact you don't rate the McD's?

Zoning is in vogue once again across the league and we have some very quick and agile players in our defence. Melksham and Hibberd will become much better with a few games into them, Hunt and Salem will go to the next level this year, Jones, Vince and Lewis roaming half back, Watts and Hogan floating back where needed. And then we have Wagner,  J Smith, Jetta to name a few more!

And you reckon our defence isn't too dissimilar to Richmonds?

I thought you new your footy.

Edited March 23, 20178 yr by McQueen

12 hours ago, Danelska said:

Can anyone step me through how we lost to Carlton last year?

Gibbs and Cripps got about 90 touches between them last year.

I will be mortified if we lose to them next week..

 

Typical early season game. Free wheeling games with fresh players, all offensive and sloppy defending. New game plans will be analysed and countered. Strengths and weaknesses identified. When things tighten up the real form sides stand out. 

Edited March 23, 20178 yr by america de cali

It was an entertaining and free-flowing game but neither team will come close to featuring in September.

2 hours ago, Danelska said:

??

was drinking last night.

12 hours ago, Danelska said:

Can anyone step me through how we lost to Carlton last year?

The players thought they just had to turn up to win. The lack of effort we showed that day was abysmal. With even a half decent effort we should beat Carlton by 10 goals.

27 minutes ago, poita said:

The players thought they just had to turn up to win. The lack of effort we showed that day was abysmal. With even a half decent effort we should beat Carlton by 10 goals.

Whoever were minding Cripps and Gibbs have a lot of redemption to do.

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Are you arriving at this conclusion based of off a few praccy games or the fact you don't rate the McD's?

Zoning is in vogue once again across the league and we have some very quick and agile players in our defence. Melksham and Hibberd will become much better with a few games into them, Hunt and Salem will go to the next level this year, Jones, Vince and Lewis roaming half back, Watts and Hogan floating back where needed. And then we have Wagner,  J Smith, Jetta to name a few more!

And you reckon our defence isn't too dissimilar to Richmonds?

I thought you new your footy.

I don't rate and fawn over the McDonald brothers like you do. Tom is a good ordinary defender and thats it. Don't need to go down this path again. 

Some of those names you put down i still have question marks over. Melksham will add speed but his disposal by foot is questionable. Goodwin has a love for him that i dont quite understand. Bernie Vince in backline just does not fit at all. He turns it over far too oftern for someone with such a good kick. Some of his best football played was as a tagger.

Smith is unkown. Had a good JTL game 1 but his game 2 he was horrible by foot. I am very excited for his debut though!

This is why Lewis and Hibberd will be very important to our back 6 structure. They use the footy well and have that class and experience. Id like toput Salem down there but his not a defenders [censored]. Leave him in the midfield where we drafted him from as a junior.

2 hours ago, rjay said:

Makes Tommy Mac look like Darren Jarman...

HAHA he got to plenty of it, but just missed a few targets that brought the ball back into the defence. He still looks under done, as in he looks like he needs another preseason to build the tank.

45 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I don't rate and fawn over the McDonald brothers like you do. Tom is a good ordinary defender and thats it. Don't need to go down this path again. 

Some of those names you put down i still have question marks over. Melksham will add speed but his disposal by foot is questionable. Goodwin has a love for him that i dont quite understand. Bernie Vince in backline just does not fit at all. He turns it over far too oftern for someone with such a good kick. Some of his best football played was as a tagger.

Smith is unkown. Had a good JTL game 1 but his game 2 he was horrible by foot. I am very excited for his debut though!

This is why Lewis and Hibberd will be very important to our back 6 structure. They use the footy well and have that class and experience. Id like toput Salem down there but his not a defenders [censored]. Leave him in the midfield where we drafted him from as a junior.

I can't recall any one time where I have been perceived by anyone else to 'fawn' over the McDonalds since I've been a member if this site. 

Anyway, Tom will always have his moments but he is a key in defence and above 'good ordinary'.

I am however interested in how you see our defence to be no different to Richmonds. That's a big call to make, I'm thinking you've done the analysis already and can put forward something plausible or are we just going to stick with shooting from the hip?

Sick of these two clubs opening the season,   they are both so boring and will never be contenders.

Saints vs Dees at the G would have been a great season opener.

Checked the AFL site this morning.

Would have appreciated an explanation as to why the AFL website continually crashed last evening and what is being done to make sure it does not happen again.

At the very least they need a back up system that frees the radio stations to broadcast their coverage. The idea of all radio coverage going through the AFL and them having an unstable platform is disappointing to say the least.

looking forward to tonights game. Hope the dogs thrash the pies. Interesting to see how Cloke goes. 

Edited March 24, 20178 yr by dees189227