3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Has the talent and the tricks. It’s probably just the shear will and commitment to play AFL that Kobe needs to nail. It would be great to see him in red and blue. 

Interested to hear how you know Kobe has the “talent and the tricks” SONS, as he can’t have produced many if he was not selected at the draft.

13 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Interested to hear how you know Kobe has the “talent and the tricks” SONS, as he can’t have produced many if he was not selected at the draft.

I too am interested. Especially around the questioning of his committee and shear will to play AFL. Unless he has some evidence back up this questionable claim then I hope he isn't making it up. If I go by his video with his father a year ago, it seems Kobe sounded more then desperate to play AFL and co tinge his father's trait.

Best person to speak to who has actually seen him play in the flesh would be @Pennant St Dee

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

shear will

Do you mean "shear wool"?  

19 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

The lid is off now.

Wiz Junior!!!

We just have to beat Fremantle Dockers for his services ... Dad is staying out of the decisions ahead regarding 'which' club - Dees or Freo. There is a challenge ahead to secure him using 'father and son' exclusivity so we must hope that as well as increasingly shining in his training and onfield roles, he must be 'won over' to the Red'nBlue ahead of the more localised (for him) enticements from the Dockers. Farmer1 and Jesse, now Farmer2 as well?

We cannot wear that...

10 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

We just have to beat Fremantle Dockers for his services ... Dad is staying out of the decisions ahead regarding 'which' club - Dees or Freo. There is a challenge ahead to secure him using 'father and son' exclusivity so we must hope that as well as increasingly shining in his training and onfield roles, he must be 'won over' to the Red'nBlue ahead of the more localised (for him) enticements from the Dockers. Farmer1 and Jesse, now Farmer2 as well?

We cannot wear that...

 

He was overlooked in the draft so father-son rule is out the window now.

Can Freo even sign him if hes training with us?

3 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

He was overlooked in the draft so father-son rule is out the window now.

Can Freo even sign him if hes training with us?

They took Hannant like that from us. Unless the rules have changed.

3 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

They took Hannant like that from us. Unless the rules have changed.

They took him in the preseason draft though.

34 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

 

He was overlooked in the draft so father-son rule is out the window now.

Can Freo even sign him if hes training with us?

Freo are out of the picture.

49 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

We just have to beat Fremantle Dockers for his services ... Dad is staying out of the decisions ahead regarding 'which' club - Dees or Freo. There is a challenge ahead to secure him using 'father and son' exclusivity so we must hope that as well as increasingly shining in his training and onfield roles, he must be 'won over' to the Red'nBlue ahead of the more localised (for him) enticements from the Dockers. Farmer1 and Jesse, now Farmer2 as well?

We cannot wear that...

Mate freo aren't taking him.. 

Much ado about nothing.

The 2 posters who have actually seen him play said he is average & on par with say 40 other small forwards in the comp.

3 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

They took Hannant like that from us. Unless the rules have changed.

SSP is different, yes freo can offer him a deal and he could sign it but they likely would have invited him to train if they had any firm interest 

With 2 spots available on the list he’s all but guaranteed a year or two. We have nothing to lose

On 22/01/2021 at 7:20 PM, dworship said:

Obviously, so now we know you're a shoot from the hip kind of poster.

Calm your farm, cool your jets etc. etc.

1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Calm your farm, cool your jets etc. etc.

Thanks for the advice but you're a little late to the party, already put him on ignore as I can't trust his opinions much like yours.

I'm all for giving him a go if we think there is some talent that may develop late. But as a small forward he is going to start behind:

Kozzie

Spargo

ANB

Bedford

Hunt

Laurie

Bowey

 

Maybe some of them develop to play HBF, wing, mid, HFF, rather than small forward, and maybe a couple are gone at the end of this year, but there are still a few ahead of him.

58 minutes ago, dworship said:

Thanks for the advice but you're a little late to the party, already put him on ignore as I can't trust his opinions much like yours.

wow mate, if getting a number slightly wrong is enough to put someone on ignore then i’d hate to see how long your ignore list actually is.

57 minutes ago, deanox said:

I'm all for giving him a go if we think there is some talent that may develop late. But as a small forward he is going to start behind:

Kozzie

Spargo

ANB

Bedford

Hunt

Laurie

Bowey

 

Maybe some of them develop to play HBF, wing, mid, HFF, rather than small forward, and maybe a couple are gone at the end of this year, but there are still a few ahead of him.

I don't think that list of players there is anyone that owns that position.  Pickett showed some glimpses last season the others are either new players or guys that just are there abouts no stand out.

If he is good enough there is a spot for him.  We will find out over time if he is good enough to play at this level, like mist 18 year old players we don't really know if they will make it

1 hour ago, deanox said:

I'm all for giving him a go if we think there is some talent that may develop late. But as a small forward he is going to start behind:

Kozzie

Spargo

ANB

Bedford

Hunt

Laurie

Bowey

 

Maybe some of them develop to play HBF, wing, mid, HFF, rather than small forward, and maybe a couple are gone at the end of this year, but there are still a few ahead of him.

very sneaky what you did there. Naming all the players that can play in a pocket. lol

Kozzie and Spargo are the only genuine forward pockets. ANB is a midfielder whose been asked to play half forward. Hunt is in the backline this year. Bedford is not afl standard. Laurie is a midfielder and Bowey is probably going to be a back flanker. 

nice try tho!

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

very sneaky what you did there. Naming all the players that can play in a pocket. lol

Kozzie and Spargo are the only genuine forward pockets. ANB is a midfielder whose been asked to play half forward. Hunt is in the backline this year. Bedford is not afl standard. Laurie is a midfielder and Bowey is probably going to be a back flanker. 

nice try tho!

I think Spargo is also midfielder being made into a small forward. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm not ready to write Bedford off. Way too early. I also think Lockhart and Chandler could be worth another chance if they don't make it as defenders. I think Spargo will start to mature into a very different player in the future. He could still be the answer to the other wing spot with his clever ball use. Just needs to get the engine right.

4 hours ago, dworship said:

Thanks for the advice but you're a little late to the party, already put him on ignore as I can't trust his opinions much like yours.

Is this all because someone mistook a 46 for a 48 or am I missing something?

4 hours ago, drdrake said:

I don't think that list of players there is anyone that owns that position.  Pickett showed some glimpses last season the others are either new players or guys that just are there abouts no stand out.

If he is good enough there is a spot for him.  We will find out over time if he is good enough to play at this level, like mist 18 year old players we don't really know if they will make it

Oh absolutely agree on that. But I would expect all to be ahead of him as of today given that they have been retained on a list with a few years development or were drafted in the top 25 of the draft, while we was passed over by everyone in the draft and as a rookie, and is currently trying for a supplementary spot.

 

4 hours ago, Dr.D said:

very sneaky what you did there. Naming all the players that can play in a pocket. lol

Kozzie and Spargo are the only genuine forward pockets. ANB is a midfielder whose been asked to play half forward. Hunt is in the backline this year. Bedford is not afl standard. Laurie is a midfielder and Bowey is probably going to be a back flanker. 

nice try tho!

I actually think Kozzie is the only genuine forward pocket there, with Spargo more a half forward (the role ANB has been playing).

Although they are all different players, they are all competing for the same couple of spots in the next year or two. ANB isn't a mid; he wouldn't be a starting mid in any of the 18 clubs. So he is always playing as a small forward, high or deep, doesn't matter. Laurie and Bowey will both start as either a small forward or back, and might work into the midfield. However both played small forward as juniors at times according to draft reports, and for them to push into the midfield or back line they need to push someone out. Hunt played forward last year didn't he? And if we're naming all smaller players at both ends of the ground I should also mention Jetta, Lockhart and Salem.

My point isn't that all are competing for the one role, but that they are all potentials for the couple of small forward positions that exist. 

 

9 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Is this all because someone mistook a 46 for a 48 or am I missing something?

Yes the sniping has started already in 2021.  Play on and chin up ! 

15 hours ago, dworship said:

Thanks for the advice but you're a little late to the party, already put him on ignore as I can't trust his opinions much like yours.

?????

19 hours ago, nacnud said:

wow mate, if getting a number slightly wrong is enough to put someone on ignore then i’d hate to see how long your ignore list actually is.

Always room for one more!

14 hours ago, deanox said:

Oh absolutely agree on that. But I would expect all to be ahead of him as of today given that they have been retained on a list with a few years development or were drafted in the top 25 of the draft, while we was passed over by everyone in the draft and as a rookie, and is currently trying for a supplementary spot.

 

I actually think Kozzie is the only genuine forward pocket there, with Spargo more a half forward (the role ANB has been playing).

Although they are all different players, they are all competing for the same couple of spots in the next year or two. ANB isn't a mid; he wouldn't be a starting mid in any of the 18 clubs. So he is always playing as a small forward, high or deep, doesn't matter. Laurie and Bowey will both start as either a small forward or back, and might work into the midfield. However both played small forward as juniors at times according to draft reports, and for them to push into the midfield or back line they need to push someone out. Hunt played forward last year didn't he? And if we're naming all smaller players at both ends of the ground I should also mention Jetta, Lockhart and Salem.

My point isn't that all are competing for the one role, but that they are all potentials for the couple of small forward positions that exist. 

 

The apparent competition for mobile smalls is a very healthy circumstance for the MFC and if these players are hungry little mongrels raring for a trot on the park with blood, they are most welcome in my mind to live that dream. Each will have to step up a rung or two, toughen up and double their commitment along the way. It does please me that internally, such competition exists in the struggle to find the best two or three of the throng.