Demonstone 23,569 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 If he's good enough, he's good enough and if not, he won't get picked up by Melbourne. Don't forget that none of the 18 clubs were impressed enough to draft him when they all had the opportunity. The fact that he's Jeff Farmer's son is completely irrelevant and doesn't justify blind optimism. 8 Quote
Roost it far 10,135 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, demonstone said: If he's good enough, he's good enough and if not, he won't get picked up by Melbourne. Don't forget that none of the 18 clubs were impressed enough to draft him when they all had the opportunity. The fact that he's Jeff Farmer's son is completely irrelevant and doesn't justify blind optimism. The fact he’s Jeff’s son got him into training so it absolutely matters. 4 Quote
Demonstone 23,569 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 Not if he's not good enough. The only relevant aspect is his football talent. For the record, I'd be rapt if we take him and he becomes a star but I wouldn't be basing that decision on his lineage. I think it's a trap to be blinded by fond memories of Jeff and hoping for a romantic outcome. 2 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 This is a conversation based on speculation. So be it. My thoughts are how i heard and were intimidated by opinion. Then these names came to mind and all played well in premierships, i think. Cable, media and pubs said he was too small, so he stayed where he was for some years.BL Crawford. They said he was too small at his school , Assumption, played against tough men, and won a BL Krakouer, and relatives, North Melb Social Club said he was too small. Loved watching him against Carlton. 1 Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Turner said: i feel like theres no reason not to fill out your list, if hes 44th man then who cares its one season, roll the dice and if after 12 months it hasn't worked out its no loss but nothing ventured nothing gained Actually, there is a reason. First, pretty sure if you spend under the cap, you can bank the difference and go over the cap next year. Second it leaves room on the list to fill a need midyear if you have injuries or glaring deficiencies. 5 Quote
Ouch! 2,276 Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 Would love to have him on the list, .... if he deserves a spot. That said, I think the odds are stacked against him based on the players at the club currently that would compete for the same spot.... our first two draft picks were small creative players. But hope he can prove me and others wrong and claim a spot based on merit. 1 Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 14 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said: Actually, there is a reason. First, pretty sure if you spend under the cap, you can bank the difference and go over the cap next year. Second it leaves room on the list to fill a need midyear if you have injuries or glaring deficiencies. we have two spots free atm anyway so we can still take a spot. and chances are his entire salary will be paid outside the cap as an A rookie and with match bonuses and you'd say given where we r at in the off-season and as a club he isn't likely to hit too many of those next year. and if you have injuries you'd be able to replace them regardless of how full your list is in pre-season Quote
640MD 3,568 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 It’s seems he is wearing a number at training. Does that imply anything at all? the other question s how tall and how much does he weigh compared to the other small s we have.? skills and ability? I have no idea I cannot get to training. And finally how old was his dad when he started with the Dees and weight and height and how long did it take the Wiz to show any ability. Or was he fantastic from the start. will love to read any answers might be a fairy tale but why not try. 1 Quote
DeeZone 10,589 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Indeed 640MD it may be a fairy tale and most of us are dreamers at heart but it would be outlandishly great for us all if Kobe showed a glimpse of the Wiz in the Red and Blue - The ball is in your court Kobe, you might only get one crack at this thing.!!!! 2 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,547 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, 640MD said: And finally how old was his dad when he started with the Dees and weight and height and how long did it take the Wiz to show any ability. Or was he fantastic from the start. Jeff debuted as a 17 year old in round 1 1995 against Geelong where he kicked a goal on debut. He didn't do much in his debut season with 4 goals in 7 games. Presumably wasn't ready for the big time. However, in 1996 he went off like a rocket and kicked 37 goals as an 18/19 year old including a combined 9 over the last 2 games. He never looked back. Sadly I totally lost interest in him when he was traded to Freo for the 2002 season. The highlight of his career was kicking 8 goal in prelim final in 2000 - a small forward crumber kicking 8 goals in a prelim is absurd. It would take a special talent to have the career the wizard had, but fingers crossed he gets on the list and we have another small forward to partner up with Kozzie. 2 Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: t. He didn't do much in his debut season with 4 goals in 7 games. Presumably wasn't ready for the big time. That sounds familiar. Those impatient folk writing off Kozzie might wanna hold off for a few more seasons yet. 8 Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 he's got the number 46 on his back but thats probably just because the club has jumpers with numbers for training and it fits him, not much to read into, as i recall saad training in 16 at carlton and now he's actually 42 but thats not to say he wont make the list. i think he will 1 Quote
dworship 3,343 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Turner said: he's got the number 46 on his back but thats probably just because the club has jumpers with numbers for training and it fits him, not much to read into, as i recall saad training in 16 at carlton and now he's actually 42 but thats not to say he wont make the list. i think he will Do you work for the Herald Sun or some other media? Accuracy not a prerequisite in what you do? 3 1 Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, dworship said: Do you work for the Herald Sun or some other media? Accuracy not a prerequisite in what you do? geez apologies i just remember seeing it in the background of a flick i scrolled past on some socials didn't exactly stop for a forensic analysis 5 4 Quote
jnrmac 20,375 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 5:29 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said: Jeff debuted as a 17 year old in round 1 1995 against Geelong where he kicked a goal on debut. He didn't do much in his debut season with 4 goals in 7 games. Presumably wasn't ready for the big time. However, in 1996 he went off like a rocket and kicked 37 goals as an 18/19 year old including a combined 9 over the last 2 games. He never looked back. Sadly I totally lost interest in him when he was traded to Freo for the 2002 season. The highlight of his career was kicking 8 goal in prelim final in 2000 - a small forward crumber kicking 8 goals in a prelim is absurd. It would take a special talent to have the career the wizard had, but fingers crossed he gets on the list and we have another small forward to partner up with Kozzie. Kicking 9 goals in the second half of a game presumably qualifies to your lofty standards? Quote
dazzledavey36 56,331 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Can someone give a summary of the article please? 1 1 Quote
adonski 13,266 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said: Can someone give a summary of the article please? Yes, he's turning heads 1 2 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,547 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, jnrmac said: Kicking 9 goals in the second half of a game presumably qualifies to your lofty standards? Yeah kinda forgot about that game.... What a year he had in 2000. 3 Quote
dworship 3,343 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Turner said: geez apologies i just remember seeing it in the background of a flick i scrolled past on some socials didn't exactly stop for a forensic analysis Obviously, so now we know you're a shoot from the hip kind of poster. 1 Quote
joshua 74 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Seems like Wiz Jnr is willing to hurt players to get a spot on the list 1 Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Everyone asking about his height, hes a bit taller than Jeff in this video from 2019. Jeff was listed at 175 cms when he played. There no way Kobe is the 169cms listed on the WAFL website, that has to be a very old measurement. 2 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,331 Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Kobe Farmer, the son of beloved Demons great Jeff, is already making a good impression as he angles for a rookie berth ahead of 2021. The 170cm Farmer uses his nous as a clever small forward and was among the goals in match sim on Friday morning's searching session. – Michael Rogers 5 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Has the talent and the tricks. It’s probably just the shear will and commitment to play AFL that Kobe needs to nail. It would be great to see him in red and blue. Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: Kobe Farmer, the son of beloved Demons great Jeff, is already making a good impression as he angles for a rookie berth ahead of 2021. The 170cm Farmer uses his nous as a clever small forward and was among the goals in match sim on Friday morning's searching session. – Michael Rogers The lid is off now. Wiz Junior!!! Quote
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