Best 22 for Round 1, 2017

[ignition. 1,478]

Would anyone consider placing Pedersen down back? Similar to North's move with Robbie Tarrant.

He can take a mark, he's strong at the contest, and should be able to read the opposing forward line.

Talls so far appear to include T.Mac, O.Mac, and Smith down back, and Hogan, Watts, Gawn (when resting), and Weideman/Spencer up forward.

Pedersen could then be named on the bench to rotate down back (or up forward) if the backs are struggling with Bruce, Membrey, and Roo (who I rate) + McCartin.

Or alternatively he could just be named to replace Smith, or Weideman/Spencer.

Edited March 20, 2017 by ignition.

[Skuit 10,031]

11 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Would anyone consider placing Pedersen down back? Similar to North's move with Robbie Tarrant.

 

Brendon Bolton, Brad Scott, Mark Neeld and I think Paul Roos.

[PaulRB 6,435]

It occurred to me last night, that with Wied coming on as a tall forward, and Spencer giving us ruck depth, that perhaps Jack Watts' best role/position is as a wingman, who can go forward or back as required, plays better on the outside and use his speed and foot skills to deliver to effect..? 

[PaulRB 6,435]

Round 1 - given our outs...

FB: Smith - T.Mac  - Vince

HB: Hunt - Oscar  - Melk

C: Stretch - Viney - Watts

HF: Trac - Hogan - Lewis

FF: Garlett - Wiedemann - Brayshaw

R: Gawn - N.Jones - Oliver

I: - Spencer - Tyson - Bugg - Salem

E: Harmes - ANB

Lots of versatility as to where players can play and my starting positions for many are placeholders as many could play elsewhere i.e. Vince in BP when he could be on ball, wing or HFF

[Demi Dee 578]

28 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

It occurred to me last night, that with Wied coming on as a tall forward, and Spencer giving us ruck depth, that perhaps Jack Watts' best role/position is as a wingman, who can go forward or back as required, plays better on the outside and use his speed and foot skills to deliver to effect..? 

an interesting match up on Riewoldt 

[old55 23,841]

39 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Round 1 - given our outs...

FB: Smith - T.Mac  - Vince

HB: Hunt - Oscar  - Melk

C: Stretch - Viney - Watts

HF: Trac - Hogan - Lewis

FF: Garlett - Wiedemann - Brayshaw

R: Gawn - N.Jones - Oliver

I: - Spencer - Tyson - Bugg - Salem

E: Harmes - ANB

Lots of versatility as to where players can play and my starting positions for many are placeholders as many could play elsewhere i.e. Vince in BP when he could be on ball, wing or HFF

agree with almost all that 22 except only one or Weed or Spencer will play and one of Harmes and ANB will come in

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15 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

agree with almost all that 22 except only one or Weed or Spencer will play and one of Harmes and ANB will come in

Same. Can't see Weid getting a kick against the Saints back line. Surely the big forwards will have to be Hogan, Watts and Spencer. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

Though Weideman does not have a developed key-forward's body, he does do a lot off good work off the ball with his blocking and leading patterns; for me, he plays round one. He has the pace and agility to trouble Brown and is such a proficient kick, he only needs a couple of chances to hurt the opposition.  

I'm not sold on Spencer as he is not a natural forward and I don't like the idea of our All-Australian ruckman playing second fiddle to him.  Gawn has never excelled in the forward line and has said in the past that he didn't like having to play there in his early years.  Unless his ability to run out games becomes an issue in 2017, he plays in the ruck with a chop out from Watts.  In the place of a second ruckman, we play another mid.

Jetta has to play for mine, there is little flair in the way he plays, but he does a job and does it bloody well.  He shuts down dangerous small forwards or resting mid and, while not a scintillating kick, doesn't cough it up or have the brain-fades we've come to associate with other defenders.  In short, small forwards check under their beds at night for Neville Jetta; he plays.

I like the look of Smith; he has the pace and athleticism to play on small and mediums and the aggression and height to play tall if needs be.  Would be a good match-up for the dangerous Membrey. 

 

JETTA        O'McDONLAD      SMITH 

HUNT         T'McDONAD         MELKSHAM

LEWIS           VINEY                SALEM

KENT            HOGAN              PETRACCA

WATTS        WEIDEMAN         GARTLETT

GAWN            JONES              OLIVER

 

Int.  VINCE   BRAYSHAW   STRETCH   TYSON     

[Akum 2,660]

9 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Could post this in any number of threads that relate to Watts but it is primarily about selections this week. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-21/watts-happening-no-clue-from-demons-coach

Goodwin makes an interesting comment about whether to go with tall or not so tall forward line this week.  That will determine whether Weideman and Spencer play.

Garlett, Watts, Kent, Smith in the mix.  No mention of Jetta so I would guess unlikely. 

Coach not particularly upbeat on Watts '..he is slowly improving...'  The troubling part of the club's preseason Watts commentary is there has been precious little public confidence in him. Not sure Goodwin's big stick of non-selection is the way to motivate him (or any player).   

He could just say Watts is in the mix and leave it at that.  Why add the 'slowly improving'... Can't see the benefit of Goodwin persisting with his public 'slow burn' of Watts. 

Still get the feel that we're being prepared for picking Spencer & leaving out Watts.

[rjay 25,314]

On 14/03/2017 at 3:24 PM, stevethemanjordan said:

We can't afford that sort of player against a quick and slick St Kilda at Etihad. Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney are all better prepared and in better form.

I think Viney is going in with pretty average form, will have to lift a lot. Brayshaw is no better. Oliver is by far the pick of the midfield at the moment and needs some help.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,261]

I don't consider myself a spelling nazi but for the love of god it's Weideman or Weid for short. 

Not Wiedmann or Wied. 

And I don't think the young fella is in the best 22 at the present.

Edited March 21, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay
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[dieter 3,325]

27 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don't consider myself a spelling nazi but for the love of god it's Weideman or Weid for short. 

Not Wiedmann or Wied. 

And I don't think the young fella is in the best 22 at the present.

Look, I know your not a Nazi, but I like that you have the urge to spell German names correctly. You'd be surprised at how many Krauts are good and great AFL footballers. Like Shane Warne, the greatest living German cricketer. ( pity he's such a fwiggin BOGAN.)

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1 hour ago, Akum said:

Still get the feel that we're being prepared for picking Spencer & leaving out Watts.

If we lose and Spencer + Weid add nothing just wait for all the backlash over his non selection.

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10 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Could post this in any number of threads that relate to Watts but it is primarily about selections this week. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-21/watts-happening-no-clue-from-demons-coach

Goodwin makes an interesting comment about whether to go with tall or not so tall forward line this week.  That will determine whether Weideman and Spencer play.

Garlett, Watts, Kent, Smith in the mix.  No mention of Jetta so I would guess unlikely. 

Coach not particularly upbeat on Watts '..he is slowly improving...'  The troubling part of the club's preseason Watts commentary is there has been precious little public confidence in him. Not sure Goodwin's big stick of non-selection is the way to motivate him (or any player).   

He could just say Watts is in the mix and leave it at that.  Why add the 'slowly improving'... Can't see the benefit of Goodwin persisting with his public 'slow burn' of Watts. 

I think Goodwin likes to be a bit coy with the media as it's also a vehicle for opposition clubs to gain intel. Obviously he's not going to show his cards yet. The beauty of this "in the mix" speculation is that it makes St.Kilda's planning much harder when considering our forward line. The teams are announced on Thurs night and most of the pre match planning is done before that. On the flip side, all of the Melbourne coaching staff know exactly who's going to be lining up in the saints forward line.

 

[grey wolf 226]

I was smokin through the rainforest and it was raining and raining and raining...... And in a flash of lightning a man stood before me dry as a bone.... And it was Todd and with a wink and a nod he told me this weeks team... Shoot I said tug on this cheroot man and his eyes rolled and his tongue hung low and wet ... And the team was...

defenders......mac 1& 2, Bernie, melksh hunty, son of smithy, Lewis ... 7

forwards...... Hoges, Jeffy, tracks, hannnnan, weeeeeed..... 5

Middies...... Maximus, gus, jonesy, olly, the vine, buggy, ..... 6

warmers.... Streeetcch, Pencil, Tyson, sailing.....4

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

Not to be critical of other poster as we're all intitled to our opinions, but the love for Spencer on this thread is completely unprecedented on Demonland.  There were huge grumbles on here when he was re-signed last year and now he seems to be placed in the majority of Round 1 teams... how the worm turns!

 

Personally, I don't see a spot for him against a quick team on a quick ground, but good luck to him if he's named!

[Diamond_Jim 12,710]

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not to be critical of other poster as we're all intitled to our opinions, but the love for Spencer on this thread is completely unprecedented on Demonland.  There were huge grumbles on here when he was re-signed last year and now he seems to be placed in the majority of Round 1 teams... how the worm turns!

 

Personally, I don't see a spot for him against a quick team on a quick ground, but good luck to him if he's named!

Must say I keep recalling his last game played in anger.... the VFL Grand Final.... was not his best day

All I can think of is that it is some master plan to leverage Gawn

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

2 hours ago, grey wolf said:

I was smokin through the rainforest and it was raining and raining and raining...... And in a flash of lightning a man stood before me dry as a bone.... And it was Todd and with a wink and a nod he told me this weeks team... Shoot I said tug on this cheroot man and his eyes rolled and his tongue hung low and wet ... And the team was...

defenders......mac 1& 2, Bernie, melksh hunty, son of smithy, Lewis ... 7

forwards...... Hoges, Jeffy, tracks, hannnnan, weeeeeed..... 5

Middies...... Maximus, gus, jonesy, olly, the vine, buggy, ..... 6

warmers.... Streeetcch, Pencil, Tyson, sailing.....4

Smokn the good stuff Wolf!?

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not to be critical of other poster as we're all intitled to our opinions, but the love for Spencer on this thread is completely unprecedented on Demonland.  There were huge grumbles on here when he was re-signed last year and now he seems to be placed in the majority of Round 1 teams... how the worm turns!

 

Personally, I don't see a spot for him against a quick team on a quick ground, but good luck to him if he's named!

Contradictory posts on Demonland, frankly I'm shocked   you mean the wind blows

Edited March 21, 2017 by Satyriconhome

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

Ok.. First post this year (or since I have remembered my password)

FB:  Salem - T.Mac  - Vince

HB: Lewis - Pedo  - Oscar

C: Stretch - Viney - Hunt

HF: Trac  - Watts - Kent/Harmes

FF: Garlett - Hogan - Weid

R: Gawn - N.Jones - Oliver

I: - Brayshaw - Tyson - Bugg - Melk

E: Harmes/Kent  - ANB - Spencer

Without the inside knowledge the coaches have. I would play Pedo at CHB to me (Only viable Blackman with size- Smith not ready). Start Lewis at Half Back so he can general the backline/swap with jones. Play Hunt on the wing and try utilise his speed at Etihad to link up through half back in hope he hits the scoreboard/creates more goals and depending on fitness play either Harmes or Kent as that 3rd 4th forward.

Thoughts? I would be backing Gawn to go head to head with Hickey and be using Pedo as a chop out.

And be instructing who ever gets their hands on Reiwoldt to make him hurt like Viney did to Ablett a few years ago.. CUT THE HEAD OFF AT THE SNAKE! (Too much cricket)

[MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday 499]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not to be critical of other poster as we're all intitled to our opinions, but the love for Spencer on this thread is completely unprecedented on Demonland.  There were huge grumbles on here when he was re-signed last year and now he seems to be placed in the majority of Round 1 teams... how the worm turns!

 

Personally, I don't see a spot for him against a quick team on a quick ground, but good luck to him if he's named!

He has improved.. but not in my team! I see him getting a game when we need to stretch a few back lines. Stkilda is not one of those.. We need the speed to beat them on the fast tack of Etihad.

[puntkick 325]

4 hours ago, dieter said:

Look, I know your not a Nazi, but I like that you have the urge to spell German names correctly. You'd be surprised at how many Krauts are good and great AFL footballers. Like Shane Warne, the greatest living German cricketer. ( pity he's such a fwiggin BOGAN.)

dieter de sonne schientz in de himmel, Vo ist de toilette bitte ?

More importantly have you cashed out at the atm, mowed your bloody lawns,told your polish wife to look at married @ first sight ,kicked your 19 year old daughter and her st Kilda boyfriend off the planet and booked your tickets for Saturday if that's too far to travel from norhcote/box hill or wherever

Did you ever see Karl Dietrik play at Deutschland ?

[dieter 3,325]

9 hours ago, puntkick said:

dieter de sonne schientz in de himmel, Vo ist de toilette bitte ?

More importantly have you cashed out at the atm, mowed your bloody lawns,told your polish wife to look at married @ first sight ,kicked your 19 year old daughter and her st Kilda boyfriend off the planet and booked your tickets for Saturday if that's too far to travel from norhcote/box hill or wherever

Did you ever see Karl Dietrik play at Deutschland ?

Spent the weekend at Mount Buller in preparation for the season.Now, Der Karl Der Grosse, menschen's kinder, now there was ein fussballer.

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19 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Contradictory posts on Demonland, frankly I'm shocked   you mean the wind blows

Filthy demonlanders.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

It's not about liking Spencer, it's about liking two rucks to allow Gawn to rest forward and so as to not completely run him into the ground.