Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

@Wilson7 On behalf of DL thanks for being among the first to use the new thumbs down feature. I'm genuinely interested to hear your side and on why you disagree.

From where I sit there's an awful lot of spruiking going on and it seems to be less about Kalani, more than happy to hear other sides though.

  • Like 5

Posted
1 hour ago, layzie said:

@Wilson7 On behalf of DL thanks for being among the first to use the new thumbs down feature. I'm genuinely interested to hear your side and on why you disagree.

From where I sit there's an awful lot of spruiking going on and it seems to be less about Kalani, more than happy to hear other sides though. 

 

Jeff is a great guy layzie and you couldn't meet a nicer young man than Kalani.  He's proud of his boys, which he should be. I don't think it's fair to judge him or his intentions if you don't know the man.

  • Like 7
  • Thanks 3

Posted
5 minutes ago, Wilson7 said:

Jeff is a great guy layzie and you couldn't meet a nicer young man than Kalani.  He's proud of his boys, which he should be. I don't think it's fair to judge him or his intentions if you don't know the man.

Fair enough, I do appreciate your insight. 

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Posted

I've been involved with various facets of junior and senior sports administration for more than 40 years and I've come across a fair share of "ugly parents" as well as many supportive parents without whose encouragement and the sacrifices made by them in term of money and time, many great sporting careers would never have happened. Unless you know the people involved and their full story, it's unwise to jump in and comment on any specific case. I think Jeff's a proud parent and wish him and Kalani good luck - it's going to be an exciting time ahead for them. For my part, I look forward to the sight of a red and blue #34 jumping all over certain Collingwood players on a Kings Birthday in the future.

  • Like 10
  • Love 4

Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

Can he actually play? Has he shown enough to suggest he's like Sam Darcy at a similar age?

I've watched him in the flesh at the under 15's stats national carnival when he represented QLD.

He's an athlete for sure but was pretty raw at the same time as most tall players that age. You could see those athletic traits indeed but at the time watching his performance, he didn't do much that got me overly excited, but that level isn't about who's going to be the next AFL star. So much water to go under the bridge.

The thing with Sam Darcy is that it was his last year of top age that really put him at the top end of draft calculations. Had a number of big games early on the 2021 season with Oakleigh Chargers and School Footy that really got recruiters talking.

Just remember with Sam Darcy, he missed out on under 16 selection for Vic Metro where as Kalani White was an All Australian defender at that level.

So just goes to show why you can't exactly determine a young players full talent at minor junior level.

Edited by dazzledavey36
  • Like 28
  • Thanks 2
Posted
4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I've watched him in the flesh at the under 15's stats national carnival when he represented QLD.

He's an athlete for sure but was pretty raw at the same time as most tall players that age. You could see those athletic traits indeed but at the time watching his performance, he didn't do much that got me overly excited, but that level isn't about who's going to be the next AFL star. So much water to go under the bridge.

The thing with Sam Darcy is that it was his last year of top age that really put him at the top end of draft calculations. Had a number of big games early on the 2021 season with Oakleigh Chargers and School Footy that really got recruiters talking.

Just remember with Sam Darcy, he missed out on under 16 selection for Vic Metro where as Kalani White was an All Australian defender at that level.

So just goes to show why you can't exactly determine a young players full talent at minor junior level.

Darcy has also improved as a footballer since he was drafted which shows the benefit to be gained from being in an elite system for learning. 

In terms of Kalani White, he’s not going backwards either. He has a big season in front of him and if gets to an AFL club, whether MFC, GCS or anyone else, that’s where we’ll see improvement.

  • Like 10

Posted (edited)
On 28/11/2024 at 15:05, SthSea22 said:

The article with Herald Sun

White said well over 200cm and and said 204cm to be exact 

Your assertion is incorrect.

The author of the Herald Sun article you're referencing is simply regurgitating the miscalculation done by SEN's Sam Edmund from the said radio interview.

Barnes writes, ''Jeff White said Kalani had grown beyond 200cm and recently cleared that height in a high jump competition.''

Then Barnes writes, “He has just evolved and he has got taller, he is 6ft7 (204cm) now,” Jeff White told SEN.

Jeff never said, ''Kalani has grown beyond 200cm'', as stated by Barnes.  It's the journalists interpreation that Jeff said that, because he's assuming 6'7'' is 204cm.

All of this is based on the incorrect premise that 6'7'' is 204cm, which it isn't.

Edited by Gator
  • Like 2
  • Clap 2

Posted

Kalani will be training with us for a week sometime before Xmas. 

  • Like 7
  • Thanks 1
  • Clap 2
Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, The Third Eye said:

Darcy has also improved as a footballer since he was drafted which shows the benefit to be gained from being in an elite system for learning. 

In terms of Kalani White, he’s not going backwards either. He has a big season in front of him and if gets to an AFL club, whether MFC, GCS or anyone else, that’s where we’ll see improvement.

Not necessarily. Some improve, some don't and end up being delisted. All kids are drafted based on potential and talent.

There are no guarantees with any draftees once they hit the system. All comes down to the individual themselves and how hard they want to work for it.

Edited by dazzledavey36
  • Like 4
Posted
On 30/11/2024 at 09:29, Gator said:

Your assertion is incorrect.

The author of the Herald Sun article you're referencing is simply regurgitating the miscalculation done by SEN's Sam Edmund from the said radio interview.

Barnes writes, ''Jeff White said Kalani had grown beyond 200cm and recently cleared that height in a high jump competition.''

Then Barnes writes, “He has just evolved and he has got taller, he is 6ft7 (204cm) now,” Jeff White told SEN.

Jeff never said, ''Kalani has grown beyond 200cm'', as stated by Barnes.  It's the journalists interpreation that Jeff said that, because he's assuming 6'7'' is 204cm.

All of this is based on the incorrect premise that 6'7'' is 204cm, which it isn't.

Wouldn't beyond 200cm mean over 200cm lol

  • Like 1
Posted
11 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Wouldn't beyond 200cm mean over 200cm lol

Kalani is exactly 200cm. He was measured this morning before training. 

  • Thanks 2

Posted

Ok, so here's Gawn & Kalani White at training today - this was taken when they were both almost the same distance from me.  Measuring their heights in pixels from the original version of this image gives the following:

  • Gawn: 1668 px
  • Kalani: 1627 px

Taking Gawn's height as the published 209 cm, this puts an estimate on Kalani's height at 203.86 ~ 204 cm (approx 6 ft 8 in) - though to be fair it does look like this would be inflated by an inch or so given Gawn is slouched just a little more than Kalani in this frame.

Kalani_and_Gawn_cropped.thumb.jpg.f1bbc4ccc770397832c914ed7c6145eb.jpg

  • Thanks 1
Posted
20 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Kalani is exactly 200cm. He was measured this morning before training. 

maybe they just ran out of tape at 2m?

🤪

  • Haha 4
Posted

Emotionally I want him at the club, but I'm with the 🤔 group atm on his abilities.

I posted his name on the 'Who needs to have a big year?' thread. Might settle us if he does!

  • Shocked 1

Posted
43 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Wouldn't beyond 200cm mean over 200cm lol

You've got something in common with jellyfish.

The journalist is simply basing his reports on the radio interview, which I also happened to hear.

White said Kalani is now 6'7'' to wit Sam Edmund then said that 6'7'' is actually 204cm.

The journalist then reports White saying he's grown beyond 200cm, because the journalist is assuming Edmund's conversion of 6'7'' is correct.

White never uttered the words that ''Kalani has grown beyond 200cm''.  All he ever said was that Kalani was now 6'7''.  Enter Sam Edmund's incorrect interpretation of that height and here we are.  Incredible that you don't get it.

 

  • Like 1

Posted
1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said:

FCS it’s not hard. 6ft 7in equates to 200.66cm. So if Kalani was measured today at 200cm, as @Ghostwritersaid, then he is slightly less than 6ft 7in. Simple.

His own words: “I’m exactly 200cm… today. They measured me this morning before we came out.”

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Love 1
Posted
3 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

FCS it’s not hard. 6ft 7in equates to 200.66cm. So if Kalani was measured today at 200cm, as @Ghostwritersaid, then he is slightly less than 6ft 7in. Simple.

No lets all have an argument about it. 😉

Whatever, he is taller than Bowey and Spargo.

  • Haha 1
  • Clap 1
Posted
3 hours ago, gs77 said:

Ok, so here's Gawn & Kalani White at training today - this was taken when they were both almost the same distance from me.  Measuring their heights in pixels from the original version of this image gives the following:

  • Gawn: 1668 px
  • Kalani: 1627 px

Taking Gawn's height as the published 209 cm, this puts an estimate on Kalani's height at 203.86 ~ 204 cm (approx 6 ft 8 in) - though to be fair it does look like this would be inflated by an inch or so given Gawn is slouched just a little more than Kalani in this frame.

Kalani_and_Gawn_cropped.thumb.jpg.f1bbc4ccc770397832c914ed7c6145eb.jpg

Haha nice job!

  • Like 1
Posted

Time to end this height debate!

The bit above the withers is of little use (physically) for a ruckman.

Thoroughbred like Kalani, I reckon he's got 17 hands well covered.

  • Love 1
  • Haha 2
Posted
49 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Whatever, he is taller than Bowey and Spargo.

By the time he finishes growing, he'll be taller than Bowey standing on Spargo's shoulders.

  • Haha 3
  • Clap 1

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   1 member

  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 4

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...