Why? Mahoney said at one point that while he was disappointed Howe didn't go to GCS that the fact he ended up at Collingwood allowed us to get Kennedy.

Howe did us a favour as it worked out. We still got pick 3. Why are your knickers in a knot? Hasn't Howe got the right to go where he is happiest.

So much aggro, so little logic.

The comment was made before pick 3 was done. I understand your very protective of the players bit like players saty is and thats fine.. thats your opinion right? Well my opinion is i dont give two shits about Howe or how he so much happier at Collingwood..the way he and his manager carried on this year proves my arguement that he is a [censored]. Im glad his half ass efforts and laziness is finally out of thus club for good.

Edited October 23, 20159 yr by dazzledavey36

Hogan was a no brainer, as was F/S Viney. Many supporters at the time were desperate for Melbourne to do that deal.

I give no credit to the psychopath whatsoever.

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Initially I thought you'd gone overboard. On reflection, I think you're correct.

Toumpas was a no-brainer as well according to nearly all the recruiters and the large majority here. Including your good self.

It's all just revisionist stuff anyway ... the shouda, couda, wouda people can bleat and moan all they like but it won't do them any good.

Re Hogan - yes, a no-brainer but Neeld wasn't going to get the benefits of Hogan his way for at least 12 months.

I wasn't a Neeld fan but he should not be held to account alone for any draftees that ended up being poor choices. The draft is an ass anyway.

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I'm making no comment on his involvement in Toumpas, I'm merely asserting he deserves zero credit for Viney and Hogan.

Zero.

I wonder if there is a Port Adelaide equivalent of Saty over there. What would he ride instead of a scooter though?

There might be, but it would be stolen....

Fairly sure that Neeld said the following in one of his press conferences ... paraphrasing ..

"I wanted grunt and we decided to go with the bloke with 2 bad hips"

Was he telling the truth?

Regardless, I blame the system we have rather than the clubs, recruiters or coaches (more so with the top end picks that don't work out)

Not all top juniors are able to make it in the big time ... that was true before we ever had drafting.

Fairly sure that Neeld said the following in one of his press conferences ... paraphrasing ..

"I wanted grunt and we decided to go with the bloke with 2 bad hips"

Was he telling the truth?

Regardless, I blame the system we have rather than the clubs, recruiters or coaches (more so with the top end picks that don't work out)

Not all top juniors are able to make it in the big time ... that was true before we ever had drafting.

I know it will not change but they are drafted too young 19 should be the minimum.

I know it will not change but they are drafted too young 19 should be the minimum.

old dee, if the drafting age doesn't change I can deal with it (I don't expect the drafting age to change either - at least not in the near future)

Raising the draft age (especially if it was raised by 2 years) would help a lot but there would still be busts (though not nearly as many one would think)

Anyway, despite my cynicism with regards to the draft, I'm still genuinely excited at the prospect of drafting 2 possible top players with picks 3 & 7 this season.

I'm not jaded or dismayed by our past drafting like many might be. I see the draft for what it is and am always hopeful.

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Edited October 23, 20159 yr by Macca

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

 

So we have two players in Number 5 now?

I'm interested to see how a change of scenery has influenced the Toump as he lines up for Port this weekend.

Will a new role and different game plan be a key to unlocking his talent?

No doubt some posters will be "wgaf" but personally I'll be keeping an eye on his development at Port.

9 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I'm interested to see how a change of scenery has influenced the Toump as he lines up for Port this weekend.

Will a new role and different game plan be a key to unlocking his talent?

No doubt some posters will be "wgaf" but personally I'll be keeping an eye on his development at Port.

We got it right with Toumpas, after the disaster of drafting him over Wines, and gave him away to another club.

 

He doesn't have "it", and I'm confident that he never will. Rabbit in headlights.......

I reckon he'll go well at Port, but I'm well aware that there are just as many who don't care or think he will do no good, so there's no need to shoot me.

 

According to Ports bigfooty forum, he was woeful in the first half of their intra club game but got a bit of it in the 3rd qtr.

They said he ran around aimlessly and couldn't really work out the role he was playing....sound familiar?

14 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

According to Ports bigfooty forum, he was woeful in the first half of their intra club game but got a bit of it in the 3rd qtr.

They said he ran around aimlessly and couldn't really work out the role he was playing....sound familiar?

Surely that's our fault, somehow....

Turned up to pre season overweight and poor condition. Improved his fitness but was barely sighted in the intra club match.

Toumps an interesting one for me, I always felt he had the attributes to make it but much like Watts he was sapped of confidence in his developing years with poor management. He also, like Watts, seemed to "train the house down" and be one that people pointed to being the big improver. Confidence is still his biggest barrier and perhaps a change in location will help that. That pick will always haunt us though, Wines being best mates to Viney and us passing him for Toump, and if Jimmy becomes a good player at port they will have nabbed them both. 

I kinda wish him luck. 

44 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I'm interested to see how a change of scenery has influenced the Toump as he lines up for Port this weekend.

Will a new role and different game plan be a key to unlocking his talent?

No doubt some posters will be "wgaf" but personally I'll be keeping an eye on his development at Port.

Where do you see him lining up McQueen?

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Turned up to pre season overweight and poor condition. 

Where did you see that. I haven't heard anything like that. I only read somewhere in December that he was working really hard.

On 10/23/2015 at 4:29 PM, Macca said:

Fairly sure that Neeld said the following in one of his press conferences ... paraphrasing ..

"I wanted grunt and we decided to go with the bloke with 2 bad hips"

Was he telling the truth?

Regardless, I blame the system we have rather than the clubs, recruiters or coaches (more so with the top end picks that don't work out)

Not all top juniors are able to make it in the big time ... that was true before we ever had drafting.

Jimmy Who?? Move on 

* Has no pace * Panics when gets the ball,* Panics when hasn't got the ball ^ Whew thank God he's gone! Massive Massive FAIL! in his time at MFC

Edited February 18, 20169 yr by picket fence

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Jimmy Who?? Move on 

* Has no pace * Panics when gets the ball,* Panics when hasn't got the ball ^ Whew thank God he's gone! Massive Massive FAIL! in his time at MFC

Tell us what you really think PF. Don't hold back.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

According to Ports bigfooty forum, he was woeful in the first half of their intra club game but got a bit of it in the 3rd qtr.

They said he ran around aimlessly and couldn't really work out the role he was playing....sound familiar?

I suspect he'll mature in SA, & become a very good footy player at SANFL level... may if he reaches full potential get another crack making it in AFL, but he imo needs a lot of maturing yet to feel good enough.

hell be a very good sanfl player

and we move on

He gave me the impression he was running on the spot.

59 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Where do you see him lining up McQueen?

I guess what interests me the most was Hinkley's ability to transform Polec into the player he is now. People labelled him a potato at Brisbane but arrived home to SA and killed it.

Can the same be extracted from Toumpas? If it can, I reckon he can play off a wing.

19 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I guess what interests me the most was Hinkley's ability to transform Polec into the player he is now. People labelled him a potato at Brisbane but arrived home to SA and killed it.

Can the same be extracted from Toumpas? If it can, I reckon he can play off a wing.

anything is possible mcq, but i give it long odds

Edited February 18, 20169 yr by daisycutter

I hate potting players of any side but.....Jimmy seems to me like a little lap dog , always sniffing around the out side.    I don't think he ever had the confidence to just play the game.   Sort of had an inferiority  complex even at MFC.

I wish him the best but I don't think he can change his personality.