The list is starting to look awesome

[Dees2014 2,377]

I guess one of the outcomes of Sunday is that us long suffering Demon supporters dare to dream. I think it is very interesting the media reaction to the win on Sunday which has been universally positive - seen almost as a "turning point" or "a line in the sand". Whatever, most commentators seem to see it as much more than simply another victory.,

I guess as much as anything it was the way we won, and the emergence of exciting new talent who showed their wares (Brayshaw, Stretch, Neal Bullen) and the not-so-new who are showing up as major talents at last (Watts, Gawn, and the return to form of Tyson). Add to this the addition of the wunderkind Hogan, and the yet to appear Pettracca (supposedly better than Brayshaw which I find difficult to believe), the recent resigning of Jack Trengove (who must have a positive medical outlook or he wouldn't have been resigned - we must all remember his first and second years, he was seen much as Brayshaw is now, an outstanding talent, and someone who would emerge into one of our top half dozen players), and the return of proven performers like Garland and Grimes, and emerging talents like Vandenberg and Salem. Add to this the vast improvement of players like McDonald, Viney, Vince, and even veterans like Dunn, and the consistency and brilliance of Captain Courageous Jones, we have a lot to be excited about.

In effect, by next year, we have four "new" top ten picks to come into the side from Sunday (Petracca, Hogan, Salem, Trengove). But I think in the long term, the most significant performance to emerge from Sunday, and the most promising from our ability to become a top 4 side, is Maxy Gawn's breakout game. It is something a lot of us thought Max had the capability to do, but the fact he did it in such a dominant way, not only in the ruck, but also around the ground and his dominant marking, makes him a player of a level of importance akin to Jeff White in Neil Daniher sides of the early 2000's. It was an awesome performance, and one which will make a number of sides cringe in fear. Max after all is the second biggest player in the AFL playing in the seniors, and on Sunday's performance one of the most dominant.

Paul Roos has set us up wonderfully for the next ten years. Let's all enjoy the ride.

Edited June 23, 2015 by Dees2014

[13thFlagIsComing 522]

I guess one of the outcomes of Sunday is that us long suffering Demon supporters dare to dream. I think it is very interesting the media reaction to the win on Sunday which has been universally positive - seen almost as a "turning point" or "a line in the sand". Whatever, most commentators seem to see it as much more than simply another victory.,

I guess as much as anything it was the way we won, and the emergence of exciting new talent who showed their wares (Brayshaw, Stretch, Neal Bullen) and the not-so-new who are showing up as major talents at last (Watts, Gawn, and the return to form of Tyson). Add to this the addition of the wunderkind Hogan, and the yet to appear Pettracca (supposedly better than Brayshaw which I find difficult to believe), the recent resigning of Jack Trengove (who must have a positive medical outlook or he wouldn't have been resigned - we must all remember his first and second years, he was seen much as Brayshaw is now, an outstanding talent, and someone who would emerge into one of our top half dozen players), and the return of proven performers like Garland and Grimes, and emerging talents like Vandenberg and Salem. Add to this the vast improvement of players like McDonald, Viney, Vince, and the consistency and brilliance of Captain Courageous Jones, we have a lot to be excited about.

In effect, by next year, we have three "new" top four picks to come into the side from Sunday (Petracca, Hogan, Salem, Trengove). But I think in the long term, the most significant performance to emerge from Sunday, and the most promising from our ability to become a top 4 side, is Maxy Gawn's breakout game. It is something a lot of us thought Max had the capability to do, but the fact he did it in such a dominant way, not only in the ruck, but also around the ground and his dominant marking, makes him a player of a level of importance akin to Jeff White in Neil Daniher sides of the early 2000's. It was an awesome performance, and one which will make a number of sides cringe in fear. Max after all is the second biggest player in the AFL playing in the seniors, and on Sunday's performance one of the most dominant.

Paul Roos has set us up wonderfully for the next ten years. Let's all enjoy the ride.

I speak on behalf of all Demons supporters right now when I say that...

[deeflog 679]

We can finally begin to see some depth in the midfield

N Jones, Vince, Tyson, Viney, stretch, anb, Salem, watts, vandenberg, petracca, brayshaw

[Ted Lasso 17,039]

Still a long way to go..

[dazzledavey36 49,152]

I think a big key forward through the draft and maybe another small quick small forward and I think we should be set.

Actually anoher defender would be handy.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,518]

I think a big key forward through the draft and maybe another small quick small forward and I think we should be set.

Actually anoher defender would be handy.

Is Henderson a free agent? If we could get him in we can then take the best mid out our first pick and not have to develop a tall.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

This will suck the absolute life out of this footy club now.

We will get flogged by Geelong next week and then cop another hiding against WC after the bye,

I predicted a bottom 3 finish and [censored] like Curry berated me.

This club is [censored] too predictable.

peed your panties in the NAB cup FFS

the problem is you have absolutely no spine

you'll be the first one back on the bandwagon after our next win

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

Still a long way to go..

Agreed.

Chris Dawes

Jack Grimes

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Mark Jamar

Jordie McKenzie

Jack Fitzpatrick

Cam Pedersen

Jayden Hunt

Dean Terlich

Rohan Bail

Aidan Riley

I'd argue that all of these players would struggle to crack in to the sides (more importantly for this argument - lists) that are challenging.

We have a long way to go

[Melbman2 226]

I find it amazing that after only 2 dratfs by Roos we have won against the Cats at their home.

And there are still three more drafts with Roos to go.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Agreed.

Chris Dawes

Jack Grimes

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Mark Jamar

Jordie McKenzie

Jack Fitzpatrick

Cam Pedersen

Jayden Hunt

Dean Terlich

Rohan Bail

Aidan Riley

I'd argue that all of these players would struggle to crack in to the sides (more importantly for this argument - lists) that are challenging.

We have a long way to go

well Dawes is the only one you've listed who is in our best 22 so...

[BAMF 3,787]

well Dawes is the only one you've listed who is in our best 22 so...

Agreed.

Chris Dawes

Jack Grimes

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Mark Jamar

Jordie McKenzie

Jack Fitzpatrick

Cam Pedersen

Jayden Hunt

Dean Terlich

Rohan Bail

Aidan Riley

I'd argue that all of these players would struggle to crack in to the sides (more importantly for this argument - lists) that are challenging.

We have a long way to go

I'll keep Dawes, Pedersen and Grimes. Then pick 1 out of M.Jones, Bail or Michie.

The rest are the prime candidates for letting go at the end of the year. So it's not really surprising that they wouldn't make the top teams list.

[FireOath 290]

I'll keep Dawes, Pedersen and Grimes. Then pick 1 out of M.Jones, Bail or Michie.

The rest are the prime candidates for letting go at the end of the year. So it's not really surprising that they wouldn't make the top teams list.

Yep. I'd add Fitzy to that as depth aswell.

[autocol 448]

Agreed.

Chris Dawes

Jack Grimes

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Mark Jamar

Jordie McKenzie

Jack Fitzpatrick

Cam Pedersen

Jayden Hunt

Dean Terlich

Rohan Bail

Aidan Riley

I'd argue that all of these players would struggle to crack in to the sides (more importantly for this argument - lists) that are challenging.

We have a long way to go

Matt Spangher is a premiership player, and Kyle Cheney would have been if the timing had been slightly different. It's hard to imagine either of them getting a game (or a spot on the list) with us, either.

That's the way footy, and the draft, works. There's not enough a-grade players to fill every list. Every list has some NQRs. I'll grant you that we have a few more than is ideal, but we'll never be "NQR free". No-one ever is.

[demons123452000 119]

Ummm nuttin to do with picks, but I hope the Dees dont expect to many from my home town of Myrtleford.

Melbourne players were in town today ( capt jones ,brayshaw,to name a few ) out of roughly 200 kids only one came out when jones called for demon kids to come forward, the one boy was my great grand child and he got a photo with jones ,hey one excited young lad and loves his footy. We are watching ch7 local to see him with jones.

[Sir Why You Little 34,763]

Sundays game was amazing. But our list still has enormous development in front of it

What sunday will do hopefully is make the fringe players like Matt Jones keep cracking in

Let's hope Max Gawn's knees stay strong

He is a mountain!

[Grimes is Great 183]

Needs IMO: outside runners x 2 eg Hill, Hartung from Hawks, players of this ilk.

Another KPF to back up Hogan and replace Dawes.

Frost to play key back with the McDonald Bros...

Another A grade mid.

[Young Dee 1,303]

well Dawes is the only one you've listed who is in our best 22 so...

You can have a fantastic 22 and [censored] all depth - as soon as a few injuries come along (and they will) your team isn't looking so good anymore.

All those people listed there are taking up spots that otherwise could be filled by players like Brayshaw

[Dees2014 2,377]

Is Henderson a free agent? If we could get him in we can then take the best mid out our first pick and not have to develop a tall.

I do not understand this obsession with recruiting another tall forward. We have hogan, Dawes, as well as the rucks/forwards Gawn and spencer. We cannot fit in all of these. In addition we have Fitzpatrick, King, and Pederson. I would have thought tall forwards are the least of our problem

[chook fowler 18,373]

Worried about Michie. Seems to be going backwards and from all accounts is very introverted. He may be struggling with confidence and it's hard to see where any improvement will come from.

Hope he makes it but I have my doubts.

[Dees2014 2,377]

Agreed.

Chris Dawes

Jack Grimes

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Mark Jamar

Jordie McKenzie

Jack Fitzpatrick

Cam Pedersen

Jayden Hunt

Dean Terlich

Rohan Bail

Aidan Riley

I'd argue that all of these players would struggle to crack in to the sides (more importantly for this argument - lists) that are challenging.

We have a long way to go

I agree with the possible exception of Dawes, but all teams have second and third tier players. The point I was making is that we are better of than many of us think and have the basis of a very competitive, extremely talented young team. This does not mean though it cannot be improved by further recruiting.

For me though, what the Roos era has shown is that we have a lot of under developed talent on our list, a lot of then high draft picks, who given time and great mentoring and coaching, will allow them to develop. We have a great base. We need to nurture it, not go for magic solutions.

[Ted Lasso 17,039]

I think a ruck, key forward and some run and carry players are very much on the agenda

[Grimes is Great 183]

Worried about Michie. Seems to be going backwards and from all accounts is very introverted. He may be struggling with confidence and it's hard to see where any improvement will come from.

Hope he makes it but I have my doubts.

Michie, Riley, Newton - would be a bonus if one of them turned out to be a player...

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

Michie, Riley, Newton - would be a bonus if one of them turned out to be a player...

Newtown started okay, and hasn't done much since. I thought he was a good kick, but his last few AFL games suggest otheriwse.

Riley, although has started sub, shows the traits Roosy loves - he always cracks in. He only had the three touches in the last qtr, but they were all effective from memory. One that is definitely a depth player going fwd. Hopefully has a good 2nd half of year if gets his opportunity.

[monoccular 16,328]

Matt Spangher is a premiership player, and Kyle Cheney would have been if the timing had been slightly different. It's hard to imagine either of them getting a game (or a spot on the list) with us, either.

That's the way footy, and the draft, works. There's not enough a-grade players to fill every list. Every list has some NQRs. I'll grant you that we have a few more than is ideal, but we'll never be "NQR free". No-one ever is.

Spangher is in a very different category than Cheney (or our own Steve Armstrong who is a fortuitous WCE Premiership player). Spangler was very unlucky not to be a three club Premiership player: IIRC he was emergency in both Swans and WCE flag teams.

Other than that - yes, every list has some NQRs. It is called depth.

Edited June 23, 2015 by monoccular

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Newtown started okay, and hasn't done much since. I thought he was a good kick, but his last few AFL games suggest otheriwse.

Riley, although has started sub, shows the traits Roosy loves - he always cracks in. He only had the three touches in the last qtr, but they were all effective from memory. One that is definitely a depth player going fwd. Hopefully has a good 2nd half of year if gets his opportunity.

We have a few hard-hitters at the moment but he is the hardest of them all, just smashes bodies that bloke