What 18,810 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 This from Wayne Carey this morning: When Hogan was lining up for one of his three goals against the Doggies last week, rival skipper Robert Murphy was apparently doing his best to put him off by screaming "You can't miss this, you're Melbourne's great white hope". Indeed, in his 16th season, Murphy probably had every reason to believe that sledging a first-year player might work. Which is why Hogan's response, after kicking the goal, is truly priceless. "And there's your great white hope," he retorted, pointing to Tom Boyd, who was sitting on the Dogs' bench at the time. The greatest thing I have ever read LOL Hogan is the MAN 2 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Gotta say, I find Careys journalism refreshing. Seems to rate a lot of our list highly and always defends them when due. That said if something negative is deserving he also doesn't shy away from saying it as it is. 2 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,841 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Personally I'm not fussed if Hogan kicks a bag or not. If he has 21 possession, 9 marks, 8 score involvements and 2-3 goal games every week I'll be ecstatic. The ideal would be a triple-double - 20+ possessions, 10+ marks, 10+ score involvements. 5 Quote
Demonated 252 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Gotta say, I find Careys journalism refreshing. Seems to rate a lot of our list highly and always defends them when due. That said if something negative is deserving he also doesn't shy away from saying it as it is. Carey is actually my favourite person in the media. He isn't influenced by everyone else like so many in the media but actually says what he believes rather than conforming to the norm. Not afraid to give anybody a bit of a serve but also gives credit when it's due. It's pretty encouraging when you hear his speak of Hogan, he is one of his biggest fans. For Hogan there is no better endorsement than from the greatest player to ever play the game (In saying that, another of the greatest in Leigh Matthews obviously was making comments without understanding Hogan's game).Hogan is so damn impressive because he along with Jeffy are the ones that the opposition are trying to stop, and with the exception of the Fremantle game, he has still managed to have an influence every game. Just knows how and when to impose himself through work rate and sheer aggression. He doesn't have senior forwards to hide behind but rather than shy away I think he relished the opportunity. He wants to be the man. Quote
Machsy 2,858 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Carey very kindly neglected to mention that Boyd was wearing the red vest at the time, with only 1 disposal next to his name. Will be ok, Boyd, but I stand by what I posted pre-draft, that he was massive and beating up on kids who couldn't compete with his reach, without doing anything particularly impressive. He has some good attributes, but he doesn't have "it." Jesse has "it." Edited May 29, 2015 by Machsy 5 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Agreed machsy, it's far more difficult to rate young key position players because often they have a huge physical advantage over the kids they're playing on, Jesse did it against men at casey Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 It's definitely imminent. I can feel it too. Won't be too disappointed if it happens on the QB weekend when I'll be present. First time at the MCG since 2008. Can't wait. I've got a feeling he'll relish the big stage. Quote
sue 9,277 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Carey very kindly neglected to mention that Boyd was wearing the red vest at the time, with only 1 disposal next to his name. ... Actually without making that clear, the impact of Hogan's remark is pretty much lost on those who were not aware. 2 Quote
JTR 2,910 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Video is about a year old, but thought it deserved a repost for those that may have missed it... http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-06-25/demon-chef-episode-1 Skip to 1:15 Hogan at around the 1:30 mark... Edited May 29, 2015 by JTR 3 Quote
CityDee 738 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Video is about a year old, but thought it deserved a repost for those that may have missed it... http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-06-25/demon-chef-episode-1 Skip to 1:15 Hogan at around the 1:30 mark... Pulled a Tony Abbot classic 1 Quote
Clayton van Oliver 1,829 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 Pulled a Tony Abbot classic Nah, he looks like he's going to eat the camera. How's the eyes, pure disdain for such a stupid question. Total gold, this bloke is someone to build a team around. Quote
dees189227 12,509 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 anyone else think that Hogan will feel queens birthday is a big stage for him and he will be pumped for it. No pressure on him and its totally the opposite for when Watts debuted, but Jesse has this presence about him and I just feel he'd love the big crowd and atmosphere and would want to perform. I cannot wait. 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted May 29, 2015 Posted May 29, 2015 http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-youngster-jesse-hogan-delivers-the-sledge-of-the-season/story-fndv7pj3-1227374403584 We've all heard about this already (or should have) but it's good to see it made the news. 1 Quote
Henrietta Lumbago 331 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 1 goal. 9 disposals 5 marks Obvioisly had a quiet game today, not through a lack of effort but just didnt bounce his way today, expecting a big game next week against lesser oponents. Quote
CBDees 3,167 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) 1 goal. 9 disposals 5 marks Obvioisly had a quiet game today, not through a lack of effort but just didnt bounce his way today, expecting a big game next week against lesser oponents. He would have scored more if he wasn't forced to play up the ground for so much of the match. The shot for goal from the 50 metre line unfortunately tested him, especially when (after his overly-long run up) he din't have enough energy left to roost it. Edited June 8, 2015 by CBDees Quote
Gorgoroth 13,216 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 It's funny, that was probably his worse game, I think Frost beat him one on one, and it was killing him. But he was far from our worst, still competed well, had a few score involvements, for such a young player, even when down he contributes. 1 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 We struggled to bring him into the game. Amazing how this week, when we actually match the opposition through the midfield and with i50's, that we struggle to convert these to shots on goal. 1 Quote
jabberwocky 2,301 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 We struggled to bring him into the game. Amazing how this week, when we actually match the opposition through the midfield and with i50's, that we struggle to convert these to shots on goal. He was outnumbered or in the wrong position in nearly every marking attempt. Couldn't decide how much of this was was due to Hogan, his opponent or the ball being delivered to the wrong spot. Good chance it was a combination. 2 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 Frost continually worked him under the ball and he wasn't able to counter. It wasn't helped by us continually bombing the ball on top of him instead of putting it out in front. He'll learn, he'll get better. Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 I reckon he learns more from bad games than good games to be honest. It's good experience for him to play in big games, and have a struggle with his opponent. At this stage of his career every game is a good game. We put a lot of pressure on him, but realistically he is still traveling better than most KPFs his age have historically. Quote
praha 11,267 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) All year he's been caught under the ball but has done a good job of making a contest and in many cases still taking the mark. Yesterday Frost read him very well and simply didn't let Hogan get a sniff in a marking contest. He needs to learn how to break off from an opponent into space because he's struggled with that all year. But his effort up until mid-way through the third was good. At that point he dropped off. Soundly beaten but still a competitor. All we can ask, really. Frost worked really hard in that regard. Gotta hand it to him. He out muscled Hogan from the start. Edited June 8, 2015 by praha Quote
rpfc 29,020 Posted June 8, 2015 Posted June 8, 2015 It's a credit to him that he has lifted the expectation in ten games to the point where being beaten is an aberration... 6 Quote
What 18,810 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I feel for the Saints defenders this SUnday Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 Did he see it lace out at all yesterday. Maybe once. That said, Frost played him very well. 2 Quote
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 I feel for the Saints defenders this SUnday Yep. I hope he's angry and ready to take it out on some packs. Quote
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