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On Twitter ~ @theafloffseason: Adelaide are interested in Hawthorn's Kyle Cheney according to Michelangelo Rucci.

:roos:

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What's the connection with us?

Apologies, it's been a long day, still at work and need what little brain power I have left.

He used to play for us.

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Kyle's been a solid citizen. Could do worse.

Could do a lot better too. He's the same borderline player now as he was when he was here.

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Could do a lot better too. He's the same borderline player now as he was when he was here.

Too slow for small forwards.

Too short for tall forwards/resting ruckmen.

Too weak for power forwards.

Tries his heart out, I'll give him that. But he's nothing more than a good VFL player, where he often wins contests against players who don't have the physical attributes of an AFL-level forward.

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The hawks paid dearly for Cheney's marginally better replacement though hey?!? (Yes I'm talking about you Mr Spud Chips Potato Face)

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No way in hell.

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Bit player journey man.

...who would probably be wise to stay at Hawthorn if they want to keep him. A contract that pays him reasonably well few just a few games a year here and there is about par for his capabilities. Any other team may be far more ruthless about cutting him as soon as his contract expires.

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On Twitter ~ @theafloffseason: Adelaide are interested in Hawthorn's Kyle Cheney according to Michelangelo Rucci.

Why didn't they declare their interest a few years ago when he played for us? We could have done a straight swap for Dangerfield or Sloane!

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The problem for Fetta is that he is not big enough to play on key forwards and not athletic enough to play as a third tall or flanker. He is a good mark for his size but his disposal is more average than good.

Taken at Pick 53 in 2007 Draft.

Traded for Pick 53 in 2010 Draft used by Dees on Tom McDonald.

Good luck to Fetta at the Crows.

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Borderline Hawk equals best 22 Melb.

Good disposal.

Good mark for his size.

Adelaide see that.

Melb didn't.

So you're playing him ahead of McDonald, Frost, Garland or Dunn? In particular the last two.

Adelaide would love Dunn or Garland. But they aren't options for the crows. The crows have Talia, then Kyle Hartigan, Luke Thompson and Sam Shaw as there other tall and medium defenders. They have a gaping gap in their list and will therefore fill it with Cheney.

His disposal is not good. His decision making is reasonable and when surrounded by brilliant running players he uses them. Hence why the hawks only played him as a depth tall as they have so many better medium sizers like Gibson, Stratton, Birchall.

If we were taking a change on a fringe Hawk it would be Lowden or Hallahan because ruck and inside mids, whilst not our biggest problem are still areas of concern.

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Borderline Hawk equals best 22 Melb.

Good disposal.

Good mark for his size.

Adelaide see that.

Melb didn't.

Like Savage at the Saints?

Any player on our list would automatically look better playing for Hawthorn in their current state.

The correct decision was made on Cheney, move on.

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Borderline Hawk equals best 22 Melb.

Good disposal.

Good mark for his size.

Adelaide see that.

Melb didn't.

That's way too simplistic and often not the case. Just ask the Saints and Shane Savage.

EDIT: You beat me to it Carlos!

Good luck to Cheney. I always like seeing players like him succeed elsewhere.

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...who would probably be wise to stay at Hawthorn if they want to keep him. A contract that pays him reasonably well few just a few games a year here and there is about par for his capabilities. Any other team may be far more ruthless about cutting him as soon as his contract expires.

He was gone when they kept Schoenmakers. Unless there was a flood of injuries there was little opportunity for Cheney at the Hawks in 2015.

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I think what it shows is different people see things differently; different coaches see different value in players (think Lyon's love for Zac Dawson - doubt he would be on any other club's list).

So it is with Phil Walsh - he must see something in Cheney that others don't.

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That's way too simplistic and often not the case. Just ask the Saints and Shane Savage.

EDIT: You beat me to it Carlos!

Good luck to Cheney. I always like seeing players like him succeed elsewhere.

Will be interesting to see how Hallahan goes at the Suns.

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Borderline Hawk equals best 22 Melb.

Good disposal.

Good mark for his size.

Adelaide see that.

Melb didn't.

If he goes on to have a solid career at Adelaide, I won't lose any sleep.

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