Pick 2 on The Table Again

[Bingo 241]

You're still missing the point.

We won't develop anyone properly without support from quality mature players.

We will still draft players this year, just like last year, but who is going to carry the load and teach players like Salem, Toumpas, JKH, Tyson, Hunt, Harmes etc? Nate Jones by himself?

Maybe Nate Jones needs to get his Bachelor of Early Childhood so he can lead our team.

On a serious note...we need more than 1 good player.

If we have the chance to bring in multiple good players with each of our early picks we should do it....its called building a TEAM...and currently our team is being carried by too few.

[Moonshadow 16,273]

Classic Demonland "re-interpretation" by the usual suspects.

Wrong again Stuie! You selectively edited quotes to suit your argument. You claimed DD36 made it up. Wrong!

[praha 10,293]

Not surprising.

Melbourne is very much in a situation Sydney was in when he arrived. Sydney is constantly in a struggle in they absolutely need to remain competitive at all times to stay viable as a business. Melbourne is well beyond the point of needing to start winning games and relying on the draft simply won't help when the team lacks actual winners among its ranks.

I would compromise for a trade for GWS talent, though. But we need genuine, pure talent, no gambles like Toumpas, and try to build this club up as quickly as possible.

Unfortunately it's reached a point now where if the club can't win more than 6 games next season, it's going to very quick dive back into the red as sponsors and members jump off.

We keep hearing that this change won't happen over night, but I feel the club no longer has a choice: it needs to get talent in as quickly as possible. Talent that has been in the AFL system and has had to work through it. Even getting fringe GWS players would be good because they're blokes that have worked to get into the team but can't. Tyson is an example.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,329]

We won't develop them properly without quality peak age players to carry the load and teach the kids.

All I remember Roos saying about last year's draft was that they rated the top 10 all pretty evenly, never read anything about "no big bodied mids", but feel free to provide a link/source, cos right now I think you're making it up.

Wrong again Stuie!

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-11-04/trade-period-was-a-success-roos

"We think pick two is going to be a good player, but having a guy that’s two years older, and a bigger body and a bigger midfielder – most of the top end players in the draft are smaller mids. On the back of Jack and Jimmy last year, we need some size and real strength, so getting Dom was fantastic.” - Roos.

You having trouble with those "I was wrong" words again Stu?

Afraid you were!

[stuie 7,374]

Wrong again Stuie! You selectively edited quotes to suit your argument. You claimed DD36 made it up. Wrong!

I said "provide a link/source cos right now I think you're making it up".

That's called asking for proof, not saying you're totally wrong and I say so.

Why do you follow me around? Isn't BBO giving you enough attention anymore?

[olisik 4,060]

You're forgetting the "quality" part.

We have 1 (arguably) top quality player on our list, Jones.

Wouldn't be half surprised if he takes off as a FA next year. If Roos suspects this im sure Roos will put him up for trade also. His already insinuated that it could be the case going forward in a few pressers.

[stuie 7,374]

Wouldn't be half surprised if he takes off as a FA next year. If Roos suspects this im sure Roos will put him up for trade also. His already insinuated that it could be the case going forward in a few pressers.

Yeah that's a scary thought isn't it?

[Waltham33 409]

Trading the pick may suggest our development gaps are still in existence. Ultimately it all depends on the deal we get. Maybe some GWS/GC players wanting to come back to Vic?

[stuie 7,374]

You having trouble with those "I was wrong" words again Stu?

Afraid you were!

Hahahaha uhoh here comes the misconception crew to ruin another thread... Wish I had this many followers on twitter

[Moonshadow 16,273]

Actual quote was misquoted!!! Stuie = Joe Hockey!

[olisik 4,060]

Anyway for Petracca we would want a Whitfield, Coniglio, Swallow, Wingard, Kelly, Bontempelli, Mccrae, O Meara, Martin, Bennel or Aish as a minimum

[Moneider96 1,045]

Nah I don't think Jones would ever leave us

[olisik 4,060]

Nah I don't think Jones would ever leave us

People said the same about Frawley. Jones hasn't extended yet and its about now that the other clubs will begin to circle.

Edited August 19, 2014 by olisik

[rjay 23,927]

Going to miss out on potential superstar for another run of the mill hard working midfielder.

When we drafted Tyson I said he would be in the top 5 mids in the AFL in the next couple of years, he's well on the way.

The kid has just ticked over 30 games and will be top 2 in our B&F, has enormous upside. His strength in the contest is amazing, watching him wrestle the ball with Mummy a few times and break even the other day. Wait till he has a couple of preseasons and spends a bit of time building some core strength in the gym.

I get that we need to draft real talent, for last years trade to be a real win we need to see the best of Salem. His illness preseason has put him back a fair way but there are big wraps on the kid.

Don't worry about Tyson 'ol', he's a star in the making and exceeded all expectations of the so called experts this year.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,329]

Hahahaha uhoh here comes the misconception crew to ruin another thread... Wish I had this many followers on twitter

I'll keep it simple for you Stu.

1. You accused DD of "making it up". 2. Moonie demonstrated that he wasn't making it up.

You are wrong. Fess up.

[olisik 4,060]

People said the same about Frawley. Jones hasn't extended yet and its about now that the other clubs will begin to circle.

Hawks have Hodge and Mitchell slowing up and will be all over Jones as will Richmond Carlton and Essendon who he would fit right into.

Edited August 19, 2014 by olisik

[Sir Why You Little 34,612]

It has to be done...we need ready made players who can help win games...

We no longer have the luxury of waiting...wait any longer & the heart will not beat true any more....

Roos has only 2 more years...this one is a write off

[beelzebub 22,225]

funny thing is the talk is of #2

were likely to have #1 also the way were going

2 would be tempting , big time

[Davos 734]

De Goey, Laverde, Duggan, Ahern, Durdin, Smith.

Plenty of talent later in the draft if we do trade down.

[#11-TonyAnderson 696]

Who are the possible 'Tyson's' on the Gold Coast list that we might be able to trade Pick 2 for, given they have another year of pre-season over GWS under their belt?

[praha 10,293]

To be honest, the team doesn't even need to tank to finish last.

If it finishes last, gets a priority pick plus Frawley compo, it could have picks 1 2 and 3. I doubt priority selection will be top 10, though, maybe top 15.

[Moneider96 1,045]

If jones leaves...ima be shattered. By far my favourite player as well as Gawn

[Demon3 2,541]

Alex Sexton is the one i would target at Gold Coast Suns.

[olisik 4,060]

Alex Sexton is the one i would target at Gold Coast Suns.

Sexton for pick 2? :/

[The Chazz 4,077]

I find it amusing that BBO rates Stuie so low that he's even sticking up for Moonie to get to him!