Dont be fooled - Roos is playing - calling his bluff. He knows he wont stay given its now rebuild 3.0. Fattenning the calf although his attitude may have hampered.

one if many players waiting for someone else to improve us.

Will be one of a few that leave as Roos will nit hesitate to make any trade for sentimentality.

Go, just go.

Has he gone yet ?

a well paid senior player in the leadership group waiting to see some improvement?

not for me.

get me a team player who just wants to get on with it

a well paid senior player in the leadership group waiting to see some improvement?

not for me.

get me a team player who just wants to get on with it

Plenty of them at Wednesday tennis.

12th in disposals

1st in marks (by about 30 from the next closest!)

13th in tackles

3rd in goal kicking

....... yeah, but I suspect if we had rankings for work ethic, leadership, team focus and integrity, they would paint a more accurate picture of his true worth to the team over the same period.

Plenty of them at Wednesday tennis.

touche biffo

i've sent roosey an email with names of some good inside mids

would have to be an improvement

Christian Petracca will look good in number 8 in 2015

Tbh I used to like that noobies got a high jumper number then graduated to a lower one as a reward.

Can they just announce it and get on with it.

can't be done until the cats season is over, could be another month of this yet

Do I think he is gone ? Absolutely.

Do I think he is leader ? No.

After his second half of the year I have swung from being ambivalent to happy to pick up a band one pick.

However the disrespectful name calling of a bloke who has served our club for 8 seasons (good and bad years and good and bad service from Frawley ) is a disgrace.

He is will opt to take his free agency out clause and so be it. Thank you for some good footy and I think you could have shown more ticker this year (and the last couple). Next year, he is a just another player.

( for those knocking Rivers - I like a player who will stick with us through good and bad but his decision to leave to play finals - was it the wrong decision for him?)

Remember Lou Richard's making outlandish statements then saying if wrong he would do silly things as a result of getting wrong!

I am extremely tempted to say that my info is so spot on that If wrong do something similar.

I'll say it again he's going to GEELONG!!

Remember Lou Richard's making outlandish statements then saying if wrong he would do silly things as a result of getting wrong!

I am extremely tempted to say that my info is so spot on that If wrong do something similar.

I'll say it again he's going to GEELONG!!

Never posting again would be considered doing a silly thing.

Just for the record Frawley arranged the players end of season trip for this yr, they leave Friday, the morning after the B&F...

Mentioned this before but last year I mentioned I played with Frawleys mate who was traveling up every weekend. He was already talking to Gold Coast and Hawthorn back then.

Was always going to go as early asnlast year.

Mentioned this before but last year I mentioned I played with Frawleys mate who was traveling up every weekend. He was already talking to Gold Coast and Hawthorn back then.

Was always going to go as early asnlast year.

Surprise Surprise.

Do I think he is gone ? Absolutely.

Do I think he is leader ? No.

After his second half of the year I have swung from being ambivalent to happy to pick up a band one pick.

However the disrespectful name calling of a bloke who has served our club for 8 seasons (good and bad years and good and bad service from Frawley ) is a disgrace.

He is will opt to take his free agency out clause and so be it. Thank you for some good footy and I think you could have shown more ticker this year (and the last couple). Next year, he is a just another player.

Well said.

I don't blame Chip in the slightest for wanting to leave. The club's culture may have turned ever so slightly this year (we don't hear constant rumors of players needing to buy in and it sounds like Roosy has a good relationship with the players) but how many more years does Chip wait until we are a finals team?

Some will say that a true leader would try to change the culture but I am not sure that is who Chip is. Look at Riv at Geelong. Sure he is a valued defender but he isn't getting into the leadership group anytime soon.
Some blokes aren't natural leaders and are merely handy players. Sadly for us, leadership is/was so thin on the ground for us, that handy players immediately qualify as leaders. With us, Riv was considered a natural for the leadership group.
I agree with what was said earlier as well. We are kidding ourselves if we think Jonesy will hang around for another 3 years of grade A poo. I am sure he will bust a gut next year (which sadly Chip hasn't done this year) but if we win 4 games again, then he is a nong if he doesn't start looking elsewhere.

salivating at what Roosy and co. will do with pick 3

We are getting great compo for Frawley, am glad hes going

It ain't certain we will get pick 3, so hold your horses.

Just for the record Frawley arranged the players end of season trip for this yr, they leave Friday, the morning after the B&F...

...and Chris Dawes speaks well but I really wish they would put it out there on the ground....

It ain't certain we will get pick 3, so hold your horses.

HH only deals in absolute certainties.

No certainty that he will go. Reports on radio this morning indicated that potential suitors are becoming nervous because of his poor form.

Maybe not worth the price tag originally offered.

MFC has an offer on the table.

No certainty that he will go. Reports on radio this morning indicated that potential suitors are becoming nervous because of his poor form.

Maybe not worth the price tag originally offered.

MFC has an offer on the table.

Shudder

No certainty that he will go. Reports on radio this morning indicated that potential suitors are becoming nervous because of his poor form.

Maybe not worth the price tag originally offered.

MFC has an offer on the table.

If this is the case he has only himself to blame for not making a decent effort on a regular basis. Right from the 3rd min mark of the WC game (rd 3/4 maybe) when he chased at a jog his true colours showed.

Can play but shows poor attitude. Maybe they think he will be difficult to 're-program'!!