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I don't know. I have to be honest. I'm not a TAC cup junkie so I will readily admit that I shouldn't be taken on gospel on either.
But... as has been said earlier, we have been burnt recruiting skinny kids. I hope now that we have blokes who have reputations for developing skinny kids in charge, the outcome might be different.

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I don't know. I have to be honest. I'm not a TAC cup junkie so I will readily admit that I shouldn't be taken on gospel on either.

But... as has been said earlier, we have been burnt recruiting skinny kids. I hope now that we have blokes who have reputations for developing skinny kids in charge, the outcome might be different.

Actually, I think our history is of recruiting skinny kids without either an appetite for the contest or a work ethic (or both).

Don't think that's happened in this draft.

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Salem isn't exactly a "skinny" kid tho. I'm sick of the classifications having to be all or nothing, like Freeman is a terrible kick and Salem is a skinny kid.

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Don't know anything about these kids so i will have to trust Roos and Taylor.

I am a little corcerned we gave up Kelly as he looks to be a Jet, but we did get 2 players for one so the Poker game is on.

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Don't know anything about these kids so i will have to trust Roos and Taylor.

I am a little corcerned we gave up Kelly as he looks to be a Jet, but we did get 2 players for one so the Poker game is on.

Kelly may become a jet but give me two very good midfielders over 1 great any day. A champion team beats a team of champions on any day. Backing in Roos and Stone who have runs on the board for developing players, we have now got a nucleus of very good young first string onballers in Viney, Tyson, Toumpas and Salem. We have Jones, Cross and Vibce who are all hardened and experienced and have performed well at the top level for long times now and can protect and teach these youngsters. We also then have some very good quality potential long term mids in Michie and Reilly. And this doesn't take into account blokes like Grimes, Watts, Mckenzie et al whom can then play roles more suited to their skill set.

Pick 2 and 20 for Tyson, Salem and Vince (pick 23) is a very good outcome for me when we are trying to build a long term high quality midfield...

Edit- Mods change the thread title to something like post draft discussion as even though it was in jest originally it won't end up that way....

Edited by Grandson of a gun
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The problem is we heard the same things about Prendegast, Bailey, Neeld, Cameron and Daniher.

LOL

Well we were stupid then

Roos and Viney have the runs on the board and should be backed in 100%

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Don't know anything about these kids so i will have to trust Roos and Taylor.

I am a little corcerned we gave up Kelly as he looks to be a Jet, but we did get 2 players for one so the Poker game is on.

Don't be too concerned 'wyl', Tyson will be one of the top 5 mids in the comp in the next couple of years. He see's the game like Pendles and Mitchell…in slow motion. You can't teach that.

Kelly to me is Scully with a better kick and cleaner hands, he will be a good player no doubt and he works hard at it but I would back Tyson to be the gun.

Salem is a bonus and a very good one.

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Why do we have so many lies on this site, demonland is the only place I hear that this kid is skinny, al the media reports say he is a big bodied mid, he is 183 81kg that is not skinny, stu is one big make up artist

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Why do we have so many lies on this site, demonland is the only place I hear that this kid is skinny, al the media reports say he is a big bodied mid, he is 183 81kg that is not skinny, stu is one big make up artist

Salem isn't exactly a "skinny" kid tho. I'm sick of the classifications having to be all or nothing, like Freeman is a terrible kick and Salem is a skinny kid.

Lol.. What?

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Don't be too concerned 'wyl', Tyson will be one of the top 5 mids in the comp in the next couple of years. He see's the game like Pendles and Mitchell…in slow motion. You can't teach that.

Kelly to me is Scully with a better kick and cleaner hands, he will be a good player no doubt and he works hard at it but I would back Tyson to be the gun.

Salem is a bonus and a very good one.

I certainly hope you are right....i am still to be convinced with Toumpas over Wines...so it better not be 2 years running.

The Club cannot afford mistakes....at all

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i am glad we took Salem, because right now as i type Salem is a Demon and that makes him special. he is automatically better than Freeman, who is a filthy Magpie. that it might have been otherwise is irrelevant, because it isn't otherwise.

for my part, i will track Freeman's progress each Queen's Birthday and perhaps one other match per season, otherwise i would have to watch Collingwood matches ... ick.

Very much missing that like button right now.

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I certainly hope you are right....i am still to be convinced with Toumpas over Wines...so it better not be 2 years running.

The Club cannot afford mistakes....at all

Well, we are going to make them.

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Well, we are going to make them.

Why? A Good Club gets it right.

Regardless of whether we are a larger or smaller club.

We made bad decisions in the past because the club overall was lazy.

This must be over...

But i am sure you will allow those "mistakes"....doesn't mean others should.

i make mistakes in my job i am out...simple.

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i think Ill back Roos, Viney and Taylors opinion over anyone on this forum

Just sayin'

The problem is we heard the same things about Prendegast, Bailey, Neeld, Cameron and Daniher.

But Roos (unlike the Poms - couldn't resist that today) has runs of the board.

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I certainly hope you are right....i am still to be convinced with Toumpas over Wines...so it better not be 2 years running.

The Club cannot afford mistakes....at all

Come on mate- you've watched enough footy in your time. Just because a player has a body ready made to play afl, and plays in a team with some midfield depth (and credit to wines for a ripper first year) doesn't make him better long term than a guy coming off injuries playing in the worst performed midfield in memory with a body that needed a year or 2 in the gym (and still managed to string some good games together).

Don't be disheartened on what we "could" have missed out on, jump on board the guys we have now. Salem looks so impressive, can you imagine Jesse hogan and Mitch Clark, who themselves witll almost be 2014 recruits, looking up and seeing Salem or toumpas with the pill in hand??? What defender has a chance to stop that! Throw in that we now have jay Kennedy-Harris at the feet of these boys on the off ahamce that hoges or Mitch drop it, and I think the disappointment of not picking wines, or fyfe or whoever we overlooked, will be a distant memory in a bygone era that we hopefully won't ever visit again.

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Why? A Good Club gets it right.

Regardless of whether we are a larger or smaller club.

We made bad decisions in the past because the club overall was lazy.

This must be over...

But i am sure you will allow those "mistakes"....doesn't mean others should.

i make mistakes in my job i am out...simple.

lol

We are going to make mistakes.

If being flawless were a prerequisite for progress - no-one would have accomplished anything ever.

Just get of the horse, wyl. You are embarrassing yourself.

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Yep speculative. High risk, high reward. Obviously thought someone was going to nab him down the line.

Surely at 57 that should read low risk, high reward.

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Surely at 57 that should read low risk, high reward.

yeah that thingy

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