Injury List - Round 7

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From the HUN's Barometer

Mark Jamar (groin) TBC

Jack Watts (hamstring) TBC

Jack Grimes (collarbone) 4-8 weeks

Mitch Clark (foot) 5-6 weeks

ON THE CUSP- Finally, Chris Dawes should come in. The former Magpie will slot straight in at full-forward, which is great news given there is no Mitch Clark there. Neville Jetta will return from suspension. Expect to also see David Rodan in the mix.

[DemonWA 3,936]

the club's website has a better one. Jamar and Watts listed as 1-2 weeks

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the club's website has a better one. Jamar and Watts listed as 1-2 weeks

And rookie Nathan Stark for a couple of weeks.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

From the HUN's Barometer

Mark Jamar (groin) TBC

Jack Watts (hamstring) TBC

Jack Grimes (collarbone) 4-8 weeks

Mitch Clark (foot) 5-6 weeks

[Longsufferingnomore 1,652]

Did anyone see in todays Age from Doc Larkin that Mitch's foot injury is a "long term" injury. Would be interesting on what he is basing this observation. Everyone at the Club including Mitch himself who had a conversation with a Volunteer the other night, says that the operation went better than expected and it was doing very nicely.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Did anyone see in todays Age from Doc Larkin that Mitch's foot injury is a "long term" injury. Would be interesting on what he is basing this observation. Everyone at the Club including Mitch himself who had a conversation with a Volunteer the other night, says that the operation went better than expected and it was doing very nicely.

I think he would mean the recovery after getting back onto the track & playing. Just like an ACL operation (usually 12 months), but it still takes nearly another year to get back to full strength & resilience from the associated trauma to other areas of the invasive surgery, Hamstring Muscle or Patella Tendon...

I think Clark will still be weakened around the injury site for some time, before he gets his foot back to 100%.

[Whispering_Jack 30,705]

This is the same Doc Larkin who during 2011 said Tom Scully's knee was stuffed and his career would be curtailed as a result?

[gsmith12 491]

Any news on long term injuries/ rookie promotions Jack ?

This is the same Doc Larkin who during 2011 said Tom Scully's knee was stuffed and his career would be curtailed as a result?

[Webber 10,546]

I think he would mean the recovery after getting back onto the track & playing. Just like an ACL operation (usually 12 months), but it still takes nearly another year to get back to full strength & resilience from the associated trauma to other areas of the invasive surgery, Hamstring Muscle or Patella Tendon... I think Clark will still be weakened around the injury site for some time, before he gets his foot back to 100%.

This isn't the case. The Lisfranc repair that Clarke had doesn't involve any musculotendinous structures. It's a bone to bone structural repair, specifically via metal fixation. Those metal fixateurs were creating localised irritation, which inhibited his ability to perform around the resultant pain. Thus, they were removed. The time needed now is to allow the hole left by the fixateurs to fill and consolidate (bone), by which time the irritation will have settled. This is standard stuff, sometimes happens, and in no way diminishes the integrity of the structure. He'll be back, and barring irritation related to scarring, which should be manageable anyway, be as good as new.

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This isn't the case. The Lisfranc repair that Clarke had doesn't involve any musculotendinous structures. It's a bone to bone structural repair, specifically via metal fixation. Those metal fixateurs were creating localised irritation, which inhibited his ability to perform around the resultant pain. Thus, they were removed. The time needed now is to allow the hole left by the fixateurs to fill and consolidate (bone), by which time the irritation will have settled. This is standard stuff, sometimes happens, and in no way diminishes the integrity of the structure. He'll be back, and barring irritation related to scarring, which should be manageable anyway, be as good as new.

No doubt Webber, but what I'm talking about is the surrounding areas, to the surgery.. when a player has had an injury or anyone, the body reacts to try to reduce the movement around the injury.

IMO If a player continues, then they seem to often injure another area in trying to compensate & protect for the original injury.

[DeeSpencer 26,088]

This isn't the case. The Lisfranc repair that Clarke had doesn't involve any musculotendinous structures. It's a bone to bone structural repair, specifically via metal fixation. Those metal fixateurs were creating localised irritation, which inhibited his ability to perform around the resultant pain. Thus, they were removed. The time needed now is to allow the hole left by the fixateurs to fill and consolidate (bone), by which time the irritation will have settled. This is standard stuff, sometimes happens, and in no way diminishes the integrity of the structure. He'll be back, and barring irritation related to scarring, which should be manageable anyway, be as good as new.

It's not I don't believe you but answer this question - If the lisfranc injury Clark had was a fracture/dislocation involving many bones moving from their original location how isn't there a lot of tendons and ligaments disrupted and how can we know they are healed until they are tested over the course of a full season or longer.

To me the foot seems such a complex thing. Little bones and ligaments and tendons going everywhere and they all get 100+kg put on them running in a 1000 directions. That's why I'm skeptical of even the best Orthopods and Physio's providing guarantees.

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What's the word on Charlie Dixon?

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It's not I don't believe you but answer this question - If the lisfranc injury Clark had was a fracture/dislocation involving many bones moving from their original location how isn't there a lot of tendons and ligaments disrupted and how can we know they are healed until they are tested over the course of a full season or longer. To me the foot seems such a complex thing. Little bones and ligaments and tendons going everywhere and they all get 100+kg put on them running in a 1000 directions. That's why I'm skeptical of even the best Orthopods and Physio's providing guarantees.

Clarke didn't fracture. That's important as it is a career killer. The tendons in the area are completely uninjured and unaffected. The ligaments are ruptured, which thus allows the dislocation. These heal and strengthen with the immobilisation. Yes, the foot is a complex structure, but in this case it is a structural requirement that is compromised, not mobility. Effectively the dislocation occurs at the keystone of the arch, hence it's importance. There is a bit of adaptive behaviour in the surrounding muscles/tendons, but not much. Much less than in an ankle reconstruction/stabilisation for example. Ongoing issues will come down to local irritations, which as I have said, should be minor.

[Webber 10,546]

Forgot to say its 1, sometimes 2 metatarsal bones that dislocate, not 'many'.

[Whispering_Jack 30,705]

Any news on long term injuries/ rookie promotions Jack ?

I heard on the radio that Jack Grimes is going to be put on the LTI but who knows what to believe on the radio these days?

Yesterday, someone on SEN said Paul Roos was going to coach us.

Go figure?

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I heard on the radio that Jack Grimes is going to be put on the LTI but who knows what to believe on the radio these days?

Yesterday, someone on SEN said Paul Roos was going to coach us.

Go figure?

I prefer the finger in the air WJ

i find it way more accurate

[binman 43,842]

I heard on the radio that Jack Grimes is going to be put on the LTI but who knows what to believe on the radio these days?

Yesterday, someone on SEN said Paul Roos was going to coach us.

Go figure?

You mean he isn't going to coach us?

[Soidee 1,496]

Round 7 and we are now looking more like the MFC of old....injury list is growing and the subterfuge is alive and well.