On the Couch dissects first 15mins of Dee game

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

On the one hand, I think it's a bit mean for them to single out Pedersen, Frawley and Nicholson for each of their pathetic attempts, when I'm sure all bar about 2 players did something similar.

However. Frawley's 'chase' symbolises all that is wrong with our 'leaders'. I can only presume he thought the ball was going to go out of bounds, but even then, for him to see it didn't, and not put his head down and sprint, but just continue to amble, is absolutely, utterly, totally disgraceful. I'd drop him to Casey for that and that alone. It's far worse than Nicholson going the double fist (don't get me wrong, that effort was also terrible). If he doesn't want to try, he shouldn't play.

Pedersen's squib was just sad, really. But you'd hope that he watches that back, and vows internally to never do it again. Might change him.

I agree - Frawley showed little leadership in that chase.

[olisik 4,060]

Is this a video? Doesnt seem to be loading for me.

[Trisul 664]

Is this a video? Doesnt seem to be loading for me.

Yes. Might be to turn off ad blockers etc.

[Sir Why You Little 37,038]

That video won't be on the MFC Website!

[olisik 4,060]

Yes. Might be to turn off ad blockers etc.

O my, i watched it.

I very sad

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

i would love to hear a response from Frawley... but oh no of course not, no matter how much you disgrace the jumper and anger the supporters you are not to be made publicly accountable for your efforts, after all, you are a highly paid superstar athlete and as such are above such things

[monoccular 17,430]

On the one hand, I think it's a bit mean for them to single out Pedersen, Frawley and Nicholson for each of their pathetic attempts, when I'm sure all bar about 2 players did something similar.

However. Frawley's 'chase' symbolises all that is wrong with our 'leaders'. I can only presume he thought the ball was going to go out of bounds, but even then, for him to see it didn't, and not put his head down and sprint, but just continue to amble, is absolutely, utterly, totally disgraceful. I'd drop him to Casey for that and that alone. It's far worse than Nicholson going the double fist (don't get me wrong, that effort was also terrible). If he doesn't want to try, he shouldn't play.

Pedersen's squib was just sad, really. But you'd hope that he watches that back, and vows internally to never do it again. Might change him.

I agree totally - the other two were errors of judgement, but Chip's was just plain lazy, lazy, lazy, and set an awful example for the younger players: his "getting away with that" (if that what happens) says so much about what is the nature of our beloved club's malaise.

There were maybe 18 lazy players on the field on Sunday and laziness, especially in round one after the shyte season and off season we have had just must not be tolerated.

Edited April 2, 2013 by monoccular

[old dee 23,791]

I would bet the North people were laughing themselves silly on Sunday night.

They traded Pedersen for a small reward and got away with it

[Deecisive 1,709]

The dogs and port have put up sides with players who want to play and they did ok. We need to do the same, get rid of those who dont want to try, send them back to Casey to try to get a game. Silvia and Frawley could see their value plummet quite badly if they cannot even get a game with melbourne.

[olisik 4,060]

Anybody have footage of Pedersons famous 'duck'

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

I dont know but ...Neeld keeps saying, we trained ONE particular way for 5 months....well maybe that one particular way has been observed, disected and worked out?? Should we train 5 particular ways maybe. Surely football is more complcated than that? He doesnt seem to have a plan B, in fact even said to the press gallery, unless you guys know a better way??

[Chook 15,013]

I dont know but ...Neeld keeps saying, we trained ONE particular way for 5 months....well maybe that one particular way has been observed, disected and worked out?? Should we train 5 particular ways maybe. Surely football is more complcated than that? He doesnt seem to have a plan B, in fact even said to the press gallery, unless you guys know a better way??

Didn't he also say that the way we trained was not the way we played. Having five game plans is all well and good, but if the players can't even execute plan A successfully then Plans B through E would surely be equally unworkable too right?

[wonnabeeri 275]

Anybody have footage of Pedersons famous 'duck'

It wasnt just the one 'duck', I counted at least three other occasions when pederson handballed and then should have looked to shepherd. Instead he just watched the receiving player get put under pressure. Thats basic auskick stuff. Unforgivable.

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

just watched it. this is horrific.

frawley, nicholson, sellar, pedersen...pathetic.

fumbles you can excuse to a certain degree, but the effort of those four was nothing short of disgraceful.

our skills are atrocious. our confidence is shot.

we can definitely be the bottom side in the competition this year. we are that bad.

Edited April 2, 2013 by DemonAndrew

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Didn't he also say that the way we trained was not the way we played. Having five game plans is all well and good, but if the players can't even execute plan A successfully then Plans B through E would surely be equally unworkable too right?

Yes he did and I agree, guess my point was training is one thing, all the players know what to do and whats going to happen in drills, it looks great and works because they all know each other. Match conditions are quite different. Can they really forget that in 5months?? Can a coach really expect, just because they train really well that that will automatically translate onto the field?

Edited April 2, 2013 by Wadda We Sing

[Dr. Mubutu 853]

just watched it. this is horrific.

frawley, nicholson, sellar, pedersen...pathetic.

fumbles you can excuse to a certain degree, but the effort of those four was nothing short of disgraceful.

our skills are atrocious. our confidence is shot.

we can definitely be the bottom side in the competition this year. we are that bad.

Watching the replay, I didn't think Nicho's effort was as horrible as I first thought.

Sure, his skills are rubbish, but at least he showed some effort, IMO.