Rohan Bail sidelined for 6 weeks

[hardtack 10,129]

Tweeted a while ago by MFC:

"Rohan Bail has been removed from contact drills for 6 weeks after he twice suffered concussion within 10 days"

...but the good news is that he's already three weeks into the layoff.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/melbourne/news/2013-02-20/Bail-out-after-knocks+.workstation

Edited February 19, 2013 by hardtack

[old dee 22,980]

Tweeted a while ago by MFC:

"Rohan Bail has been removed from contact drills for 6 weeks after he twice suffered concussion within 10 days"

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/melbourne/news/2013-02-20/Bail-out-after-knocks+.workstation

After last season this is not good.

It must be close to him deciding his head is not up to AFL.

Quit while you stilll have a functioning brain Rohan.

There is more to life than Football.

[Nasher 33,166]

I agree old dee - given the events of last year and what we saw with Belly, this has got to be a real worry for him.

[rjay 24,037]

Rohan has been in the rehab group for a while now so I guess this is the reason, he seemed to be running well.

[dee-luded 2,958]

After last season this is not good.

It must be close to him deciding his head is not up to AFL.

Quit while you stilll have a functioning brain Rohan.

There is more to life than Football.

Yep, almost every year he's had missed time blocks from concussions.

We all have our own achilles heals in some area of our body/makeup.

IMO, Its getting to the point where it will be too dangerous to play him.

[old dee 22,980]

Yep, almost every year he's had missed time blocks from concussions.

We all have our own achilles heals in some area of our body/makeup.

IMO, Its getting to the point where it will be too dangerous to play him.

I think he has now reached that point.

Of course we are not the experts but in this area so much is not known.

And the risk is in IMO too great.

[Cards13 9,117]

I saw the title of the thread and thought... to work on his kicking.

[Pates 9,537]

This is very concerning, there were all those weeks last year where he was a late withdrawal due to concussion. As someone said above, with everything that's happened to Belly I gotta wonder at what point does someone say to him it's too much? Who makes that call?

Of course I hope he makes a full recovery and is able to have a long a prosperous career, as long as he doesn't have any after effects post-AFL. We've already seen Barts retire early because of a knee problem that will limit him for the rest of his life.

[DeeSpencer 23,417]

How many has he had? Obviously 1 big one last year and now 2 in a row early this year, but if it's 3 in total you might feel ok but if its more like 6 or 10 I know I'd be very concerned.

Unfortunately there are no scans now to predict the future. The period of rest is obviously needed and very wise but it's hard to tell where to go after this. I hope he gets back, keeps playing if thats the decision he makes and never has another one.

[Cards13 9,117]

How many has he had? Obviously 1 big one last year and now 2 in a row early this year, but if it's 3 in total you might feel ok but if its more like 6 or 10 I know I'd be very concerned.

Unfortunately there are no scans now to predict the future. The period of rest is obviously needed and very wise but it's hard to tell where to go after this. I hope he gets back, keeps playing if thats the decision he makes and never has another one.

Brain injuries can't really be classified by 1 or 2 only, if it is a big hit to the brain then damage can occur and you may not recover. Concussions as have been discussed are a huge problem for contact sports the world over with more visibility and understanding of the long term effects on the players themselves.

Hope he does recover and has no long term issues to his noodle, and as I said he can work on some kicking while away from contact drills

[Jens Lehmann 75]

I really hope he starts wearing a padded helmet, and that more players do.

It's something that has really gone out of fashion, but I'd like to see it come back in if possible.

Mind you, I'm assuming it actually does have a beneficial effect.

I've not examined the medical evidence.

[Cards13 9,117]

I really hope he starts wearing a padded helmet, and that more players do.

It's something that has really gone out of fashion, but I'd like to see it come back in if possible.

Mind you, I'm assuming it actually does have a beneficial effect.

I've not examined the medical evidence.

Some of the articles I have read basically state they do very little as the main concussion related brain injury occurs due to the brain hitting the inside of the skull. You can't protect the brain with a padded outer helmet very well. I will stand corrected by more learned folk in this area.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,629]

This is extremely worrying for his future.i

[Nasher 33,166]

Some of the articles I have read basically state they do very little as the main concussion related brain injury occurs due to the brain hitting the inside of the skull. You can't protect the brain with a padded outer helmet very well. I will stand corrected by more learned folk in this area.

Without having seen or having any time to look at the science, pure physics suggests that some of the impact that would normally "rattle" the brain would be absorbed by the helmet. It's just a question of whether it's enough to make any material difference.

[Scipio 5,868]

It really isn't worth the risk, hopefully the medicos will put his safety and future wellbeing ahead of the needs of the football club.

[Chook 14,609]

Without having seen or having any time to look at the science, pure physics suggests that some of the impact that would normally "rattle" the brain would be absorbed by the helmet. It's just a question of whether it's enough to make any material difference.

This. Saying that helmets wouldn't help is like saying crumple zones are pointless in cars.

[Cards13 9,117]

Here is an article I found in a one search.

http://www.australasianscience.com.au/article/issue-october-2012/helmets-wont-cure-footballs-concussion-headache.html

[Cards13 9,117]

Another one:

"One of the doctors said to me headgear actually increases the weight of your head, and therefore increases the rotational force of your head and can make the concussion worse.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/08/16/3569488.htm

Research from the USA where they wear big hard helmets shows they may make concussion worse because of the rotational forces that cause the concussion.

[Chook 14,609]

Another one:

"One of the doctors said to me headgear actually increases the weight of your head, and therefore increases the rotational force of your head and can make the concussion worse.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/08/16/3569488.htm

Research from the USA where they wear big hard helmets shows they may make concussion worse because of the rotational forces that cause the concussion.

That's a fair point about the rotational force. I think we should call Mythbusters!

[demon-4-life 467]

Just rings of a Daniel Bell situation.

[Cards13 9,117]

That's a fair point about the rotational force. I think we should call Mythbusters!

I was of the same opinion that they must help, now they do for cuts, abrasions and some fractures but not much for actual concussions apparently. But it also states head related trauma is a minimal issue within the overall football injury spectrum.

[Akum 2,660]

There was of course that off-the-ball king-hit that Bail copped from a certain "bruise-free" Blue while playing for Casey in 2009 or 2010.

[DeeSpencer 23,417]

Just rings of a Daniel Bell situation.

I was going to continue with the puns but I thought I'd bail out of it.

[Outside fifty 967]

Josh Mahoney wore a padded helmet for a large part of his career so one would think he would be a good sounding board. As you said Cards the NFL helmets are a much more rigid and heavier helmet and the contact more brutal and frequent. The Head is used as a blunt instrument. Personally I'd be surprised if a padded soft helmet would add too rotational force in a collision in AFL. The other thing to consider in NFL is that its more likely to be a helmet to helmet collision which would cause a lot of rotational force.

[Cards13 9,117]

Josh Mahoney wore a padded helmet for a large part of his career so one would think he would be a good sounding board. As you said Cards the NFL helmets are a much more rigid and heavier helmet and the contact more brutal and frequent. The Head is used as a blunt instrument. Personally I'd be surprised if a padded soft helmet would add too rotational force in a collision in AFL. The other thing to consider in NFL is that its more likely to be a helmet to helmet collision which would cause a lot of rotational force.

I know mate but the article i quoted from was an Aussie article too. Soft padded helmet does bugger by the looks of things, big heavy ridgid ones the same.