I don't need reminding of Neitz. The game is littered with key forwards that started as key backs.

Tom McDonald has played as a key forward at AFL level. It's where he started. I just don't see the class, or skill for him to dominate there and much prefer him back.

Please show me any regular season AFL game where he started as a key forward? Or even spent more than 5 minutes up forward. I think he's done both preseasons before this one as a forward but come the games be it at Casey or for Melbourne he's been down back.

I'm happy for him to be down back but I agree we should always keep our options open. Let's see if he can start to judge the ball and use his body to get more marks. If your CHB is taking marks its often a sign that they could make it more as a forward.

I don't need reminding of Neitz. The game is littered with key forwards that started as key backs.

Tom McDonald has played as a key forward at AFL level. It's where he started. I just don't see the class, or skill for him to dominate there and much prefer him back.

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall Neitz started up forward, didn't achieve much and was moved into the backline... he was then moved forward again out of necessity when we were lacking a strong forward line-up.

Thanks to all, for all the training reports, FNQ is up for a knighthood for going beyond the call of duty.

The acid test is when they play against some opposition,we wont have much longer to wait.

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall Neitz started up forward, didn't achieve much and was moved into the backline... he was then moved forward again out of necessity when we were lacking a strong forward line-up.

Neita DID begin as a forward, Because of the OX, Lyon, etc he went down back,and killed it down there, Later was moved back to the forward line.

Tall defenders are a dime a dozen. Monster key forwards, most certainly are not.

Let's revisit in two or three years.

I disagree with this how many quality tall key defenders are there in the league compared with quality key forwards?

I don't need reminding of Neitz. The game is littered with key forwards that started as key backs.

Tom McDonald has played as a key forward at AFL level. It's where he started. I just don't see the class, or skill for him to dominate there and much prefer him back.

We may have to agree to disagree then.

Maybe revisit in a few years.

We may have to agree to disagree then.

Maybe revisit in a few years.

I stand to be corrected about him playing as a forward at AFL level, but why you'd want to move a valuable 10 year key back to the forward-line when you have Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen and Mitch Clark has me dumbfounded.

I stand to be corrected about him playing as a forward at AFL level, but why you'd want to move a valuable 10 year key back to the forward-line when you have Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen and Mitch Clark has me dumbfounded.

i agree it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

It ain't broke, no need to fix, per se.

I stand to be corrected about him playing as a forward at AFL level, but why you'd want to move a valuable 10 year key back to the forward-line when you have Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen and Mitch Clark has me dumbfounded.

I don't think Tom played forward BUT he trained predominantly last preseason with the forwards...and then Neeld played him back.

Tom McDonald is more suited to be a damaging player as a defender that quickly turns defence into attack.

He has already showcased this creative ability, and with better kicking skills he will hurt his opponents and have them worrying about his influence.

He can only do this from behind the ball.

Tom McDonald is more suited to be a damaging player as a defender that quickly turns defence into attack.

He has already showcased this creative ability, and with better kicking skills he will hurt his opponents and have them worrying about his influence.

He can only do this from behind the ball.

Agree with this. We've seen him a few times burn his opponent and find room in dangerous positions around the forward 50. Admittedly, he's often blown those chances, but the poise wo finish his work will come.

Agree with this. We've seen him a few times burn his opponent and find room in dangerous positions around the forward 50. Admittedly, he's often blown those chances, but the poise wo finish his work will come.

With experience and natural development

I'm going to try to get to training on Friday. Is G's paddock much of a walk from Flinders St. - never been there.

Yes.

If doing that walk, I'd allow 15 mins on top of however long it takes you to get to the G.

It's right by Richmond station - a much better option.

I stand to be corrected about him playing as a forward at AFL level, but why you'd want to move a valuable 10 year key back to the forward-line when you have Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen and Mitch Clark has me dumbfounded.

I guess one needs to keep all options open, depending on circumstances.

After all, had the Ox not gone down with his knee injuries, and had a 12 year career as the competition's leading CHF (which is where he clearly was heading), then DN may not have moved forward at all.

Thanks Jose.

Thanks Jose.

If you get off at Richmond, when you walk down from the platforms turn left at the bottom then when you come out of the tunnel turn left again there is a bike shop along the street on the right with a coffee shop attached, makes the best coffee in the area, you then go under the railway bridge on Hoddle to get to Goschs which is diagonally opposite across the lights and intersection when you come out from under the bridge

I'm going to try to get to training on Friday. Is G's paddock much of a walk from Flinders St. - never been there.

Turn up dressed the same as your avatar. I'm sure someone will guide you there if you ask nicely.

Turn up dressed the same as your avatar. I'm sure someone will guide you there if you ask nicely.

If dressed as his avatar please go from Flinders, will be more enjoyable for one and all.

Perhaps not worth starting a new thread for (mods?), but news from today's 3k Time Trial:

Melbourne Football Club Christopher José Cincotta we like to keep the times in house but the top places, in order are: Dan Nicholson, Tom McDonald, Rohan Bail, Jordie McKenzie, Nathan Jones, Joel Macdonald and Dom Barry.

And further ...

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun

Dees time trail first home Dan Nicholson (9min22) and Tom McDonald. At Princes Park.

Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun

Young Dee Jack Viney in super nick. Finished 8th in about 10min15sec. All set for a big first year.

Some of you blokes are just jealous.

However, back on topic and re the time trials. You have got to hand it to Joel MacDonald. He may not have the most ability but he works bloody hard to keep his place on the list.

When is the next training session

Some of you blokes are just jealous.

However, back on topic and re the time trials. You have got to hand it to Joel MacDonald. He may not have the most ability but he works bloody hard to keep his place on the list.

He should be working harder than a bar of soap in the Castlemaine Health Spa on his disposal efficiency.

I hope you can handle the big city by yourself .

Watch out for rats and cockroaches-Collingwood and Richmond may be training nearby.

Some of you blokes are just jealous.

However, back on topic and re the time trials. You have got to hand it to Joel MacDonald. He may not have the most ability but he works bloody hard to keep his place on the list.

take a voice recorder with you bbo. will be expecting an 800 page report

Any reports of Fitzy? I know he's got alot of competition for a spot as a forward or even a ruckman/forward, but he might be ok long term. IS he showing anything at training?