No charges laid, no decision and no penalties ahead of draft

[titan_uranus 25,020]

In her latest instalment, she has quite significantly toned back the attack:

Demons and league on collision course

She now recognises the 'vault' was a name for the room (note her swipe at our financials, as it was a 'tin shed').

She now recognises that what Connolly said may have been tongue in cheek.

She now recognises that the meeting may not have been as serious as she first said.

In other words, she's finally provided a bit of balance and a lack of hyperbole. And she's slowly confirming what we all know now; that the allegations against us aren't strong enough and the evidence is lacking.

[markc 975]

I was told recently by a qualified talent scout that next years draft was a beaut, much better than this years X 4.

no worries I am no way qualified to say it isnt

was just curious

thanks

mark

Edited November 12, 2012 by markc

[dee-luded 2,959]

smacks of desperation to me. The AFL Heavies are not getting the answers they had hoped for thus far.

they want a 'PATSIE', to cove the embarrassment from they're own mistakes, & I'm sure they (AFL) thought that old melbourne will get down on her knees again for them.

well guess what!

[Biffen 12,943]

In her latest instalment, she has quite significantly toned back the attack:

Demons and league on collision course

She now recognises the 'vault' was a name for the room (note her swipe at our financials, as it was a 'tin shed').

She now recognises that what Connolly said may have been tongue in cheek.

She now recognises that the meeting may not have been as serious as she first said.

In other words, she's finally provided a bit of balance and a lack of hyperbole. And she's slowly confirming what we all know now; that the allegations against us aren't strong enough and the evidence is lacking.

Can you put this up in the Wilson File thread also.

Thanks

[buck_nekkid 5,861]

Demons and league on collision course

Wow. Now we are talking. This article is the first real sign of mongrel from our club. We just upped the ante with the selection of Representation. The AFL will not want to see this in the courts, and won't want to loose. Solution: have it go away.....

Love it, love it, love it.

Good job Dees!

[markc 975]

In her latest instalment, she has quite significantly toned back the attack: http://www.theage.co...1112-298nr.html

She now recognises the 'vault' was a name for the room (note her swipe at our financials, as it was a 'tin shed').

She now recognises that what Connolly said may have been tongue in cheek.

She now recognises that the meeting may not have been as serious as she first said.

In other words, she's finally provided a bit of balance and a lack of hyperbole. And she's slowly confirming what we all know now; that the allegations against us aren't strong enough and the evidence is lacking.

sounds like she has been reading demonland ....

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

There is a god

..............and he (she) is obviously a Demon.

[Sir Why You Little 37,038]

The Paragraph talking about "turning on & off interview tapes" is not a good look for the heavies.

Editing these interviews is a big no no

[Wells 11 5,401]

Two things struck me about this piece.

FIrst that Caro has returned to trying to be a reporter instead of a shock jock.

The second was this,

Clothier, a former tax lawyer, had his team beefed up last year when the internationally recognised police officer Haddad joined the AFL as its first intelligence co-ordinator.

As the league intensified its fight to preserve the game's integrity and protect it from match-fixing and the threat of performance-enhancing drugs, Haddad, who worked in Sierra Leone and Cambodia and has worked as a tactical intelligence operative for the Victoria Police sexual crimes squad, came on board and quickly had his involvement at head office widened.

WTF! It's like we've been accused of "match fixing" for money! It's good that we've got a QC on side except by the time this is finished, whatever the result, his fee is going to be the equivalent of a big fine. Whatever the case, we absolutely need to fight this...

[Left Field 313]

I think it would be wise to now advise all media outlets, via recorded means (email, letter, etc) that we intend to defend our club's integrity in this matter.

Viz" Please resort to printing poven factual information. And make sure that the headlines, and bylines, refer directly to facual information. Or do not report any content in association with our clubs's name at all".

Proof becomes our point of attack.

[PaulRB 6,363]

I liked "Melbourne has engaged the services of of former Federal Court judge and Victorian Solicitor General Ray Finkelstein, QC, to handle its defence against allegations it deliberately lost games of football in 2009 in a bid to win early draft picks."

Demons and league on collision course

So the AFL have a former policeman and a tax lawyer vs our former Federal Court judge and solictor...

[Whispering_Jack 30,140]

In her latest instalment, she has quite significantly toned back the attack:

Demons and league on collision course

She now recognises the 'vault' was a name for the room (note her swipe at our financials, as it was a 'tin shed').

She now recognises that what Connolly said may have been tongue in cheek.

She now recognises that the meeting may not have been as serious as she first said.

In other words, she's finally provided a bit of balance and a lack of hyperbole. And she's slowly confirming what we all know now; that the allegations against us aren't strong enough and the evidence is lacking.

Firstly, I changed the title to this thread because I am sick and tired of these media bozos refusing to credit the Melbourne Football Club with the presumption of innocence. We have yet to be charged with anything. As far as I know the club hasn't been given the benefit of seeing the alleged evidence against it or to respond. How can anyone say in those circumstances that we've "escaped penalties". Penalties happen when you've been found guilty of something, not before you've even been charged.

Secondly, take note of this:

Melbourne has engaged the services of of former Federal Court judge and Victorian Solicitor General Ray Finkelstein, QC, to handle its defence against allegations it deliberately lost games of football in 2009 in a bid to win early draft picks.

I know this bloke and all I will say is that he's pretty much the best in the business. We're in good hands to deal with and repel the disgraceful attacks on the club we've witnessed in the media in the past month.

[Carrot Top 947]

I wonder if the AFL heavies are the ones leaking all that crap to Caro. It seems like they'd been given a brief to bring us down by any and all means, and may well have over egged the pudding.

[Grapeviney 9,721]

Seems the club has decided to brief her on its position. Interesting

[dee-luded 2,959]

Wow. Now we are talking. This article is the first real sign of mongrel from our club. We just upped the ante with the selection of Representation. The AFL will not want to see this in the courts, and won't want to loose. Solution: have it go away.....

Love it, love it, love it.

Good job Dees!

Good On RDBarassi for showing we'll fly the "Grand Old", if the AFL comes a hunting in our front yard.

The fish rots from the head, & it runs from its tail first.

Lets not turn tail but face down these pretenders who gave tacit approval to "List Managing".... even if they are trying to retire Vlad, & have him tidy up his mistakes before the handover.

Lets not be they're, mfitzpat ricks sacrificial lamb, when only true blue-healer will do.

And gillon gets his way one day?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

These two lines stick out, they just don't fit in:

"The club is expected to put forward Connolly's claim that his comments – including his invoking of a disappointed and cancer stricken president Jim Stynes after a Port Adelaide victory – were tongue-in-cheek.

It is also playing down the significance of the meeting in the vault. It will also cast doubt on the true nature of chief executive Cameron Schwab's disappointment with Bailey in the rooms after the Port win."

I wouldn't be surprised if an editor added these in after.

[PaulRB 6,363]

And she's re-introduced the term "alleged" into her lexicon... five in one article, must be a record.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

I was told recently by a qualified talent scout that next years draft was a beaut, much better than this years X 4.

I don't understand how next years draft can be "X 4" better than this one. Does that mean there are 4 Lachie Whitfields or the depth runs to the 40's instead of a top ten?

[cat attack 26]

I was told recently by a qualified talent scout that next years draft was a beaut, much better than this years X 4.

What a load of shyte...... Every year the draft is 4 x better than the year before as if .....

[dee-luded 2,959]

I liked "Melbourne has engaged the services of of former Federal Court judge and Victorian Solicitor General Ray Finkelstein, QC, to handle its defence against allegations it deliberately lost games of football in 2009 in a bid to win early draft picks."

Demons and league on collision course

So the AFL have a former policeman and a tax lawyer vs our former Federal Court judge and solictor...

I think its about time we had some 'T' shirts made up to wear about in the pre season.

Kreuzer Cup 'T's in Navy Blue of course, should be the order of the day for Dees supporters with associated brown paper pockets.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Seems the club has decided to brief her on its position. Interesting

well she has contacts & is perhaps the official leak of the game.

why not leak back thru her.

[dee-luded 2,959]

What a load of shyte...... Every year the draft is 4 x better than the year before as if .....

what isn't it?

what do you know?

[dee-luded 2,959]

And she's re-introduced the term "alleged" into her lexicon... five in one article, must be a record.

old melbourne would have rolled over for a tummy tickle.

Lets watch & see if we'll fight from the top down, or fold like a poor poker hand.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Seems the club has decided to brief her on its position. Interesting

Perhaps as a way of warning.

Getting back to the loss of draft picks; we have spent some of our picks this year on a selection in next year's draft so if we lose picks next year I don't take it that we've got a good one anyway, that's not the way to look at it. If we lose selections it will rob us of the opportunity of selecting another player of choice in the draft or perhaps a trade with another club.

We are not in a position to be able to rebuild our club in the expected timeframe if we are robbed of draft picks; imagine if this happened last year and we subsequently missed out on Dawes, Wines(?) and Barry with our only selection being Jack. Some are a bit Blaise about this we aren't that good that we can give further leg ups to the other clubs.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I don't understand how next years draft can be "X 4" better than this one. Does that mean there are 4 Lachie Whitfields or the depth runs to the 40's instead of a top ten?

I don't know F'n'Dee, I'm just relaying what one of our, & ex hawk scouts has told me. that is all.

I haven't been to any U-18's for about 12 months or more.