Latest murmurings of a crazy time

[Dr. Gonzo 24,235]

Simply put, I view it as the club's responsibility to preserve the value of their players as best they can until they very end. I don't think MFC did that in this instance.

Well you'd be wrong. It's the players responsibility. The club has no responsibility to maintain the public perception of the player's performance or ability. The fact is if we rated Moloney we would have tried to keep him and given him games. By dropping him and letting him go implies that he has been underperforming.

[cfe 30]

Well you'd be wrong. It's the players responsibility. The club has no responsibility to maintain the public perception of the player's performance or ability. The fact is if we rated Moloney we would have tried to keep him and given him games. By dropping him and letting him go implies that he has been underperforming.

Responsibility to themselves not a responsibility to the player, i.e so they get the best return for him in a trade or as comp. pick.

I don't think they have a responsibility to the player so that he gets a fatter contract at his next team (although - to be fair - Moloney's new contract has a direct effect on the comp. pick Melbourne will get).

Anyway, he's off to Bris now, so we'll see.

[cfe 30]

No, the club didn't infer anything.

Imply, maybe. You're the one who inferred.

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It was the message coming out of the club officially and unofficially all year, as reflected by comments on here.

Nice video, love the mature style of argument and comprehension skills that are on display here so far!

[Bossdog 2,002]

Moloney to Bris on completion of medical exam tomorrow....Trade radio

[olisik 4,060]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

[Bossdog 2,002]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

You're kidding right?????

[Hannibal 5,814]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

Which would explain a trip to Brisbane for Neeld and Viney.

[olisik 4,060]

We really must not rate this years draft crop....at all

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Damien Barrett reports that we are moving closer on the Cam Pederson deal with North

I am warming more to getting Pedersen and keeping pick 20.

[Daz's Dee's 113]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

No way wouldn't happen

[Demon Disciple 12,180]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

if that was to take place, we'd have the slowest midfield by a long long way. Would rather Wines to be honest.

[olisik 4,060]

I am warming more to getting Pedersen and keeping pick 20.

With these rumors of pick 4 for Daniel Rich I am starting to think we will not be involved in this draft at all.

Lets hope MFC haven't screwed up again and traded themselves out of a superdraft which could set them up for 10 years.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

Tim Harrington conveyed an understanding that each club to lose players to free agency would most probably receive a single pick based on net loss. Hypothetically, Port Adelaide could currently be sitting on a first round pick which would explain their reluctance to participate in other FA deals.

Not sure why we didn't do a similar deal with the cats for Byrnes if Rivers ends up there as the dons and power did to maximise out FA compo.

[Hannibal 5,814]

With these rumors of pick 4 for Daniel Rich I am starting to think we will not be involved in this draft at all.

Where did you read/here it ?

[olisik 4,060]

Where did you read/here it ?

TWR

[rpfc 28,539]

TWR

Anyone else hear that? I am listening to it on and off but missed that...

If Wallace said it, I wouldn't believe it - his middle name would be 'spitball'...

[Hannibal 5,814]

Anyone else hear that? I am listening to it on and off but missed that...

If Wallace said it, I wouldn't believe it - his middle name would be 'spitball'...

I know it's not popular, but I really like Terry.

[McQueen 17,865]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

WTF?

His best year was his first when he won the Rising Star. Ever since then he has been serviceable and reliable but no way is he a pick 4 trade.

Pick 20 more like it.

[skills32 229]

Which would explain a trip to Brisbane for Neeld and Viney.

I think they will be meeting Hogan, the folks and bringing him back to Melb.

They could also be chatting to Koby and one or two others.

[Dr. Mubutu 855]

cfe, it would have hurt the Club more to keep saying Moloney was on the right track and that he was required, when obviously internally he was not rated by the coaching staff at all, and was seen to have chucked a hissy fit having been relieved of a position in the leadership group.

It was better for the club as a whole to make an example of Beamer, and show that the club was incredibly serious about the need for all players to be on board with the direction the club was heading. Yes, it's not a good look for a club's reigning B&F to be searching for a trade mid-year, however it was obvious to all that he was butting heads with the now incumbent football department. To allow this to continue would only have undermined the message that the FD are trying to sell, and if this lessens the pick value we get for Brent, then so be it. The intangible value that this move shows further strengthens the vision of the Club, showing that regardless of standing, if you refuse to meet minimum standards or follow the instructions of the coaching panel, you WILL NOT get a game with Melbourne.

As far as I'm concerned, this only paints the MFC in a better light, as they are trying to instil a professional environment, where it was arguable that one didn't exist before, and one disgruntled player is not above what the club is trying to achieve.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Beamer.

[cfe 30]

Been trying to think of some way it could related to Moloney going there, but can't.

Surely not.

[cfe 30]

cfe, it would have hurt the Club more to keep saying Moloney was on the right track and that he was required, when obviously internally he was not rated by the coaching staff at all, and was seen to have chucked a hissy fit having been relieved of a position in the leadership group.

It was better for the club as a whole to make an example of Beamer, and show that the club was incredibly serious about the need for all players to be on board with the direction the club was heading. Yes, it's not a good look for a club's reigning B&F to be searching for a trade mid-year, however it was obvious to all that he was butting heads with the now incumbent football department. To allow this to continue would only have undermined the message that the FD are trying to sell, and if this lessens the pick value we get for Brent, then so be it. The intangible value that this move shows further strengthens the vision of the Club, showing that regardless of standing, if you refuse to meet minimum standards or follow the instructions of the coaching panel, you WILL NOT get a game with Melbourne.

As far as I'm concerned, this only paints the MFC in a better light, as they are trying to instil a professional environment, where it was arguable that one didn't exist before, and one disgruntled player is not above what the club is trying to achieve.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Beamer.

Fair enough, well put. I don't really want to argue about that anymore! Everyone is pulling in the same direction here, just using different ropes.

[demon-4-life 467]

My only thing I could think of is: they sign Moloney as a RFA, and then we trade the compensation pick that we will be getting for Moloney to them for Rich.

But I can't see them doing that until Rivers' future is decided.

[GIRO 63]

Booming left foot and tough as will impact round 1 that's what we need, no more 2-3 year plans if we start winning games straight away I'm all for it

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Talks of pick 4 to Brisbane for Daniel Rich

I would want change, he was not pick 4 and has not improved past that

edit is not of the quality of Gaff/Shuey ect

Edited October 10, 2012 by Jordie_tackles