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There are a few.

The funny thing is that they think that- and yet still have the requisite IQ to turn on their computers, log into Demonland, and type sentences.

Weird..

I was on that side a while ago too. However, the more I saw of the kid and the more I saw of how our team conducts itself, the more I thought he would be worth paying a little over for, especially given how difficult it often is to accurately rank the kids in the top 10. It's just not possible to say with certainty that the player taken at pick 4 is going to be better than the one taken at pick 8. With Jack we know exactly what we are getting, we know he will be able to play and have an impact in his first year and we know he has an uncompromising attitude to training and professionalism. Given that many reports have him as quite similar to his father in his playing style, we even have a pretty good idea of what he'll be like in a few years. I know it would be great to get all that as a second round pick, but the reality is that he is worth the punt at pick three.

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I must say that a small part of me will lol if Jack Viney turns out to be a dud AFL footballer. But most of me will just cry and become addicted to Valium.

Grandson of a gun
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It will finally all be over one way or the other. The bandwidth savings alone will be astronomical. Helleluljah. For the sanity of the vast majority of Demonlanders this time cannot come quick eno

Bang Bang Bang
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Viney is a competitive beast in the Selwood, J.Lewis, Hodge mode. In fact I've heard some describe him as the most ferocious young player to ever come through the system. The kind of player that is fi

w00dy Redleg

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and I've decided this is all GWS' fault and that stupid mini draft, which was designed to give them more established players, but instead has just been rorted and will provide them with high draft picks...

no mini draft would mean O'Meara would be clear 1, Whitfield clear 2, with Viney falling through to our second round selection... God damn I hate GWS...

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Viney is a competitive beast in the Selwood, J.Lewis, Hodge mode. In fact I've heard some describe him as the most ferocious young player to ever come through the system. The kind of player that is first picked in September, a "culture changer", and decent skills to boot. I don't give a rats' tossbag if we have to take him at 3, he's exactly the kind of young player we need to bring into the club. No brainer IMO. Who cares if O'Rourke runs a better beep test or Grundy tested better in the clean hands test, the guy is clearly worth an early pick and not to mention the lack of integrity of overlooking him after putting 2 years of work in..

If you want any more convincing, we took a guy at pick 1 four years ago who blitzed the Championships, broke records at draft camp and had all the potential in the world. Jack Watts of course. Fast forward and the one thing stopping him from becoming the player he should be is a lack of intensity and competitive instinct. He will never get it (IMO). You can't teach what Viney has. We're lucky.

Obviously it's better if we get him at 26, because we'd be making out like bandits. But that's out of our control. The only reason you'd see me in meltdown tomorrow would be if we overlooked him altogether. Luckily that won't happen.

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I'd be happy wherever we take him, for some/all of the reasons given in this thread. Taking him at 3 isn't all doom and gloom, as it leaves us with a live pick 26, which is probably going to be much more useful in trades. We're not going to get much with our next available selection, pick 45, and I would have thought that even for a player like Pederson, North would be wanting more.

Though perhaps we can pick up a nice second round pick as FA compo on Moloney and/or Rivers.

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Ouch! Redleg

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So does anyone think we will not take him if GC bid?

I will be cranky if we have to take him with 3 on some level....but I'll convince myself that GC and the MFC rated him that highly, and we are getting a steal :)

I will be extremely p1ssed if the club doesnt take him at 3 if they are forced to.

MFC has to take Viney, his skills and strengths are EVERYTHING that Neeld would want, and for the sake of a couple of draft positions, we just can't afford to screw this up.

Still secretly hoping that GC doesn't bid on him. feeling about 70% confident that they won't....

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I will be cranky if we have to take him with 3 on some level....but I'll convince myself that GC and the MFC rated him that highly, and we are getting a steal :)

I will be extremely p1ssed if the club doesnt take him at 3 if they are forced to.

MFC has to take Viney, his skills and strengths are EVERYTHING that Neeld would want, and for the sake of a couple of draft positions, we just can't afford to screw this up.

Still secretly hoping that GC doesn't bid on him. feeling about 70% confident that they won't....

At 3 it is overs. If only because Joe Daniher is the true one, and concessions re 17 year olds last year have thrown the upper end out of whack.

But we have to cop it. Just means our return from father sons has been about zero, compared to the like of Geelong who rate around 100%.

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At 3 it is overs. If only because Joe Daniher is the true one, and concessions re 17 year olds last year have thrown the upper end out of whack.

But we have to cop it. Just means our return from father sons has been about zero, compared to the like of Geelong who rate around 100%.

It could be overs, but it won't be massively so I don't think.

Another factor into where I rate Viney personally has to do with the fact that he is ready to play. How many of our recruits over the last few years have been based on potential rather than actual results. We need an immediate injection on hardness and an inside mid for 2013, and thats why I think we take him at any cost.

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Forest Demon Redleg

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I am pretty confident they won't bid on him. Basically, if they think he is the second best player in the draft then they bid, if not, it is a huge risk where the only positive is the almost insignificant fact that they will have 1 more player to look at for the second rounder. The emergence of Grundy and Toumpas have made it pretty clear that most recruiters wouldn't have Jack in the top 3 or 5.

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