We all thought we got it wrong, but did we really?

[Demon Forever 219]

Looking back at it "delistings/retirements" did we get it wrong?

My opinion is that we were spot on.

Junior - didn't play much and has retired

Green - retired this year

Cameron Bruce - retired this year

Did we really lose a lot by forcing the hand of those on the verge of ending their careers?

[bing181 9,196]

Looking back at it "delistings/retirements" did we get it wrong?

My opinion is that we were spot on.

Junior - didn't play much and has retired

Green - retired this year

Cameron Bruce - retired this year

Did we really lose a lot by forcing the hand of those on the verge of ending their careers?

Thread title isn't correct. I don't know that we ALL thought we got it wrong.

[Demon Forever 219]

Thread title isn't correct. I don't know that we ALL thought we got it wrong.

Good point - scratch "ALL"

[olisik 4,060]

Looking back at it "delistings/retirements" did we get it wrong?

My opinion is that we were spot on.

Junior - didn't play much and has retired

Green - retired this year

Cameron Bruce - retired this year

Did we really lose a lot by forcing the hand of those on the verge of ending their careers?

Well the fact that they were replaced on the list by players like Cook then yes we did lose

[Little Goffy 14,463]

The gain was a one or two year advance on the draft picks, and presumably some salary cap space saved.

The loss was experienced players of varying value.

Given that it isn't even possible to give a decisive call one way or the other in hindsight, where's the value in trying to second guess the decisions made at the time?

[Demon Forever 219]

Well the fact that they were replaced on the list by players like Cook then yes we did lose

Cook didn't replace any of them

[olisik 4,060]

Cook didn't replace any of them

Wasn't he drafted the year after Macdonald "retired"

[jumbo returns 6,740]

Junior is the only one that should have stayed on - we'd have an invaluable member of the coaching panel now and one hell of a mentor and role model.

[Demon Forever 219]

Bingo olisik

[Sideshow Bob 2,343]

Opened up the thread thinking it was about Jack Watts, he did poll 3 against the Bombers

[Demon Forever 219]

Opened up the thread thinking it was about Jack Watts, he did poll 3 against the Bombers

Gold!!!

[Guest José Mourinho]

Well the fact that they were replaced on the list by players like Cook then yes we did lose

We only ever gained the OPPORTUNITY to draft another young player, regardless of who it was, but some won't realise that and will focus on irrelevancies...

[Biffen 12,940]

Looking back at it "delistings/retirements" did we get it wrong?

My opinion is that we were spot on.

Junior - didn't play much and has retired

Green - retired this year

Cameron Bruce - retired this year

Did we really lose a lot by forcing the hand of those on the verge of ending their careers?

We lost the leadership of these blokes but we needed new blood.We got it right and new leaders are emerging .

[olisik 4,060]

We only ever gained the OPPORTUNITY to draft another young player, regardless of who it was, but some won't realise that and will focus on irrelevancies...

With BP being the one to draft players I think it was totally relevant on how many players he was allowed to draft. If it were up to me I would have minimised the amount of players he could draft as much as possible and not go delisting Junior

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

We only ever gained the OPPORTUNITY to draft another young player, regardless of who it was, but some won't realise that and will focus on irrelevancies...

opportunity was lost. That's what i realize.

[Guest José Mourinho]

With BP being the one to draft players I think it was totally relevant on how many players he was allowed to draft. If it were up to me I would have minimised the amount of players he could draft as much as possible and not go delisting Junior

Well that's just an absurd statement.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Junior should've got the one year extension he wanted/deserved.

So yep - I think we got this one wrong.

[Jaded No More 68,867]

Screwing Junior over for the sake of a year was a monumental [censored] up.

He had valuable leadership attributes that we desperately needed and wanted, and was an examplery player for us.

Sometimes I shake my head at some of the stupidly idiotic decisions we have made with our list.

Newton got an extra year but Junior didn't. I mean FFS!

It was an epic fail.

[olisik 4,060]

Screwing Junior over for the sake of a year was a monumental [censored] up.

He had valuable leadership attributes that we desperately needed and wanted, and was an examplery player for us.

Sometimes I shake my head at some of the stupidly idiotic decisions we have made with our list.

Newton got an extra year but Junior didn't. I mean FFS!

It was an epic fail.

Dont worry, we got Cook now

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

Dont worry, we got Cook now

stop it!

[P-man 13,366]

The Junior decision was categorically wrong.

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

The Junior decision was categorically wrong.

considering he went to play for the ammos last year, was it wrong?

Just asking

[P-man 13,366]

considering he went to play for the ammos last year, was it wrong?

Just asking

I don't see how that impacts on judgement of the decision tbh.

What was he to do when he felt he had another year in him? Sit on his hands out of respect to the club that shafted him?

[Sir Why You Little 36,989]

I don't see how that impacts on judgement of the decision tbh.

What was he to do when he felt he had another year in him? Sit on his hands out of respect to the club that shafted him?

his hammy injury took a long time to recover. How many games could he have played at top level in 2011?

That was the quandry the club had.

Edited September 24, 2012 by why you little

[P-man 13,366]

So even in retrospect you think it was the right decision?

In the games he played this year he more than proved he was capable of competing at AFL level. Our team is bereft of senior leaders and we denied a club captain and one of its great servants an extra year. It was a [censored] up, and it still irks me.