We are18th. How did this happen?

[Guest Jackie]

I would like my fellow demonlander's thought's on chris connley and cameron swabb. My mate in W.A thinks as long as we have these guys in our club we will fail. I have been a fan of swabb would love someone to tell me if cameron swabb's blue print is just rubbish and he said on that whiteboard show we were at base camp in 2010. i Think we are well and truely at base camp now that's 2 years ago. Maybe this blue print is just crap. Please tell me your thought's on our CEO cheers.

Both should be sacked ASAP for the sake of our club. Time is running out.

[Tony Tea 2,809]

I would like my fellow demonlander's thought's on chris connley and cameron swabb.

I have a mate in WA who says exactly the same thing. In fact, a lot of footy fans in WA loathe CC and CS.

[Real Demon 232]

Both should be sacked ASAP for the sake of our club. Time is running out.

How is sacking both of them going to help?

Surely you jest?

[dees189227 12,401]

This remonds me of the day we were playing hawthorn at Waverley getting thrashed and a huge cheer went around the ground because they put the score up on the scoreboard showing Fitzroy had defeated Fremantle and won there 1st game putting us on the bottom.

Look I suspect we wont stay at the bottom but geez the round after our bye is interesting against GWS. We wouldnt want to get 2 games behind them. I will be a nervous wreck that day.

There is no point calling for the coach to be sacked. Neeld is 7 games in to a 3 year contract. I have faith in him and what he is trying to do. I think the attiude of the players need to change and once we get a win whenever that will be it will be a big sigh of relief.

Its a shame the Gold Coast arent a victorian team because thet would cop it here. The focus should be on them. They have all these young players from there draft picks and they have Ablett, Brown and other experienced players. This is a team that almost beat Essendon and nth a few weeks ago. Im tipping this would be on of the darkest days in Gary Abletts career.

[rjay 25,094]

We have viney in charge of this draft which is a super draft. I love viney but we need the best scouts going around as our clubs future is in the hands of the next up coming draft. I would think this should be the boards number 1 priority right now.

This one I agree with you on Big Jim. Why we have a makeshift recruiting head is totally beyond comprehension to me.

Both should be sacked ASAP for the sake of our club. Time is running out.

...and I think these guys have a lot to answer for too, they are the common thread that runs through the last 4 plus years. The elephant in the room that the board must address. Even the media tip toe around this one, Tim Watson says the fish rots at the head and then goes no further, Greg Denham has little pot shots at CS and goes no further, Gary Lyon won't because they are his mates. At least lets get everything out in the open, let's rebuild properly or we will fall over.

What is Brian Cook worth to this club?

[DeeZee 7,445]

There is no doubt we are

the worst team in comp.

Pathetic bunch of pea hearts coached by some one who won 3 flags with ocean grove only because they bought players, no one else could afford.

[The Big Ticket 94]

CS is out of contract at the end of this year isn't he? He's well and truly gone at the moment. Landing a couple of big sponsors won't save him now. The players are clearly [censored] at something. We are bad, but we are not as bad as 18th on the ladder

Choco and Connolly are in trouble too.

[hardtack 10,627]

There is no doubt we are

the worst team in comp.

Pathetic bunch of pea hearts coached by some one who won 3 flags with ocean grove only because they bought players, no one else could afford.

And no doubt we are the most fickle supporters in the comp. We can do the kind of 360 on a player,coach, or administrator, that would do a stunt driver at the Royal Melbourne show proud.

[Hardnut 327]

And no doubt we are the most fickle supporters in the comp. We can do the kind of 360 on a player,coach, or administrator, that would do a stunt driver at the Royal Melbourne show proud.

Rubbish! For too long MFC supporters have quietly accepted failure and have NOT voiced passionate concerns about the club!

[beelzebub 23,383]

Apparently the sky is falling. Oh dear, oh my.

Breaking News... This Season is a WRITE OFF !!

other than drafting its irrelevant where we finish.

Time to pension off the non-performing once-was-senior players together with any other "I dont really want to be at Melbourne" types and build a team.

18th... (or last ) ..Been there done that. Hardly the end of times folks.

Good for list management I say B)

[beelzebub 23,383]

Heads up.... this isnt failure.... Its a beginning. A long road ahead...but its ahead.

[Bossdog 2,002]

CS is out of contract at the end of this year isn't he? He's well and truly gone at the moment. Landing a couple of big sponsors won't save him now. The players are clearly [censored] at something. We are bad, but we are not as bad as 18th on the ladder

Choco and Connolly are in trouble too.

Connolly has nothing to do with the players now.......CS has to job of running the club....which has demolished a 5 million dollar debt....The board has spent money on the FD and brought in a very professional team which are 6 months into their tenure....I understand it is very frustating......It's about the players understanding a defensive mindset which will win games and finals not just look pretty every now and then....We will suck it up and we will go forward even if you can't see it now......By the way CS is not responsible for how the players play.......Connolly was has the best record as a coach at Freo........ Edited May 12, 2012 by Bossdog

[Guest Jackie]

Heads up.... this isnt failure.... Its a beginning. A long road ahead...but its ahead.

Not quite yet. CC and CS are still with us.

[sue 9,145]

What a load of doomsayers post on this site. Sure we have been very poor, but given the draw and 186 (and the following matches last year) how many matches did anyone realistically think we'd win by now. Possibly 2 perhaps. Let's see what happens when the players have game time to adjust to the new game plan.

Whatever the new plan is, it is clear that the players say they are having to adjust. Give them some time to do so FCS.

And as for the many posts which effectively saying Neeld is an idiot, do those posters think they know more than an assistant coach at a successful club? Do they think he is not aware of the shortcomings in what is happening? What about assuming he does, but wants to get our 'soft' players to build a defensive mindset and skills and later let them play 'natural' attacking footy. And get them fit since it seems for some reason they aren't up to AFL fitness levels. Blame the past for that, not the present.

[Hardnut 327]

Sue, I'll put it very bluntly - Neeld was a bad choice by a group of people who didn't know how to conduct such choices!

The real issue is 'where to go from here'.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

And no doubt we are the most fickle supporters in the comp

Im yet to see a demons supporter spit on their players.

[Face Your Demons 175]

Might just be the kick they need. We are on the right track.

[H_T 3,049]

The blame falls flatley with the board who hired neeld as head coach.

Neeld has taken us so far back that we would struggle against half of the VFL.

News flash: I'm not sure we could go further back than how we finished off last year. We haven't played GWS or GC yet, unlike other teams and last night felt much the same as against the Hot Hawks last year.

[BIG JIM 508]

What a load of doomsayers post on this site. Sure we have been very poor, but given the draw and 186 (and the following matches last year) how many matches did anyone realistically think we'd win by now. Possibly 2 perhaps. Let's see what happens when the players have game time to adjust to the new game plan.

Whatever the new plan is, it is clear that the players say they are having to adjust. Give them some time to do so FCS.

And as for the many posts which effectively saying Neeld is an idiot, do those posters think they know more than an assistant coach at a successful club? Do they think he is not aware of the shortcomings in what is happening? What about assuming he does, but wants to get our 'soft' players to build a defensive mindset and skills and later let them play 'natural' attacking footy. And get them fit since it seems for some reason they aren't up to AFL fitness levels. Blame the past for that, not the present.

I have to say im one of the most one eyed MFC fans ever but all this weak talk has got to stop we have had the best draft picks for the last 5 years and we have some how gone backwards and now sit 18th below GWS and GC ALARM BELLS MUST RING NOW give me a break

[olisik 4,060]

its quite obvious that this year is just a training year, look at it as a season of practice matches coz that all it really is. The football department don't care where we finish, the coach dosnt either, his just trying to slap the players in line at the moment. This is gonna take a few yrs, and curse me if u want but the fact is the lower we finish he better it is for the future this time round.

[hardtack 10,627]

Sue, I'll put it very bluntly - Neeld was a bad choice by a group of people who didn't know how to conduct such choices!

The real issue is 'where to go from here'.

And on what do yo base your opinion that he was a bad choice? He is 7, yes count it, 7 games into a senior coaching career. He has had to revamp the entire coaching team, he has had to try to introduce the players to a game plan and he has had to deal with all manner of outside issues. Remind me again, how long did it take Bomber to have success with the Cats?

[hardtack 10,627]

Im yet to see a demons supporter spit on their players.

Yeah, I'll give you that... but I really dislike the way we will be lauding players one minute and have them up for trade in the next.

[Guest Jackie]

And further more while I am on my soap box. What is Todd Viney doing for this club? Another of the old boys club. Last season he was the most unenthusiastic gloomy interim coach I have ever seen. And before that who the he'll knew what his role was? Seems like his only value is the chance to grab his son.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

Yeah, I'll give you that... but I really dislike the way we will be lauding players one minute and have them up for trade in the next.

the only player Ive lauded this season is Mitch Clark.

[H_T 3,049]

And further more while I am on my soap box. What is Todd Viney doing for this club? Another of the old boys club. Last season he was the most unenthusiastic gloomy interim coach I have ever seen. And before that who the he'll knew what his role was? Seems like his only value is the chance to grab his son.

He's been interviewing possible future recruits with the AIS boys, and plenty of other ground work. I'd be getting off your soap box quick smart.