What does this say about the state of the MFC?

[Striker475 696]

Top of the line coach, knows coaching job is available, openly courted, declines to go to Perth and deal with the mess that is the Purple Club.

Premiership coach, ex-player, offered five-year massive deal, rejects to stay at his club.

Triple premiership coach, coming out of contract end of season, refusing to coach in 2012.

Premiership coach, cushy media role, refuses to coach.

I want to know why despite all the draft picks and all the [censored] that we've had to deal with over the last three years our club is clearly rated as not good enough to be worth a half decent coach and we seem to be destined to cop yet another untried assistant.

[Kento80 83]

Who says we don't have one already striker. I find it hard to believe that, as is being reported, Melbourne didn't even approach Lyon, we don't already have someone stitched up who we still cannot announce for one reason or the other. I just can't believe we are so amateur to let all this happen.

[Sir Why You Little 34,472]

Top of the line coach, knows coaching job is available, openly courted, declines to go to Perth and deal with the mess that is the Purple Club.

Premiership coach, ex-player, offered five-year massive deal, rejects to stay at his club.

Triple premiership coach, coming out of contract end of season, refusing to coach in 2012.

Premiership coach, cushy media role, refuses to coach.

I want to know why despite all the draft picks and all the [censored] that we've had to deal with over the last three years our club is clearly rated as not good enough to be worth a half decent coach and we seem to be destined to cop yet another untried assistant.

unless a deal has not already been done....

[Reality Bus 17]

i think this week has shown us not to believe what anyone is footy says, until pen is put to paper.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Latest word is an agreement was made upto 5 weeks ago, eg. prior to us approaching Lyon

Maybe Gary new more about this due to our approach being rejected than the Saints President on Classified???

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

You are kidding if you think the purple club is a messs. Heaps of injuries this year. Wealthy club in an AFL mad 2 club state.

Clarkson is right in the window for flag if he can keep his best cattle on the track.

We dont know about Malthouse at this stage and wont know until the Pies finals run is finished.

Leigh Matthews does not want to coach.

What does this say about MFC? Nothing really

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

i think this week has shown us not to believe what anyone is footy says, until pen is put to paper.

pft, it has shown us that where there smoke there is fire, as many of us said from the start. When McGuire opened his gob on MMM 6 months ago he was bang on the money

[RickyJ45 392]

This is all pretty much due to the knee-jerk reaction of sacking Bailey mid-year w/o any plan.

OK he had to go.

You don't sack unless you have an alternative option well-planned like Essendon with Knights-Hird.

Way to much of the tail wagging the dog. How can the players show leadership in the boardroom if they can't lead on the field?

Who the fark really cares what scully thinks of our management. STFU and play footy!

Both Dockers and Bombers better managed than us - we should look and learn.

In all good clubs - players play footy, accountants do accounting and managers do managing. IF they underperform - get rid of em.

Top of the line coach, knows coaching job is available, openly courted, declines to go to Perth and deal with the mess that is the Purple Club.

Premiership coach, ex-player, offered five-year massive deal, rejects to stay at his club.

Triple premiership coach, coming out of contract end of season, refusing to coach in 2012.

Premiership coach, cushy media role, refuses to coach.

I want to know why despite all the draft picks and all the [censored] that we've had to deal with over the last three years our club is clearly rated as not good enough to be worth a half decent coach and we seem to be destined to cop yet another untried assistant.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Top of the line coach, knows coaching job is available, openly courted, declines to go to Perth and deal with the mess that is the Purple Club.Premiership coach, ex-player, offered five-year massive deal, rejects to stay at his club.Triple premiership coach, coming out of contract end of season, refusing to coach in 2012.Premiership coach, cushy media role, refuses to coach.I want to know why despite all the draft picks and all the [censored] that we've had to deal with over the last three years our club is clearly rated as not good enough to be worth a half decent coach and we seem to be destined to cop yet another untried assistant.

It's all pretty simple really.

Were not a rich club with a high footy department spend.

Our premiership window is at least 5 years away.

We lack unity and purpose.

We tanked and then got shafted rightly or wrongly this makes us look weak.

Our draftees aren't as good as we think they are.

We will have to make do with an untried coach or Viney and we will have to see if this sets us on a path.

[Whispering_Jack 27,978]

Fair go. We didn't speak with him and R Lyon to Freo was apparently a done deal five weeks ago.

[nutbean 8,837]

Here you go High Tower.

Nutbeans Law - why do you believe all the crap that is written and spoken by journo's and the media at large- there are so many inconsistencies and half truths it is impossible to distinguish fact from fiction.

We offered Clarkson 5 years, Clarkson spoke of interest but no offers. We put an offer to Lyon and Robbo tweets we didnt put an offer to him. Who the hell knows what is true and what is false.

So in four weeks time or earlier we will have a new coach.

If it is not someone special then feel free to moan about

1/ our incompetence at not approaching Lyon or

2/ our ineffectiveness at our attemp to land Lyon if we did approach him

I am happy to whine and moan once I find out who our coach is.I will be happy to draw to some conclusions once I see where all this ends up and who our coach is.

(Sorry HT - a bit long winded)

Edited September 15, 2011 by nutbean

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

It's all pretty simple really.

Were not a rich club with a high footy department spend.

Our premiership window is at least 5 years away.

We lack unity and purpose.

We tanked and then got shafted rightly or wrongly this makes us look weak.

Our draftees aren't as good as we think they are.

We will have to make do with an untried coach or Viney and we will have to see if this sets us on a path.

I'm morraly bound to ask you Diablo- Are you OK? (RUOK week..)

It's always doom and gloom with you.. I think you need a hug. Depression doesn't have to be faced alone...

[dee-luded 2,958]

unless a deal has not already been done....

Maybe we went for the best (Scully) when 2 or 3rd best (Martin) was willing & available?

Maybe we stalled proceedings to find what Everyone else was doing rather than stitching a deal?

[Hardnut 327]

Be positive fellow posters - there are good assistants out there looking for the chance to step up - it's up to MFC to choose wisely.

[Choko 493]

We will end up with an excellent coach. Even if we don't land a big fish, I reckon we will be just fine.

The assistants available at the moment IMO have the best pedigree of any era I can recall.

We need CC out, a new footy director (Garry full time or someone from outside of the MFC culture), and really solid assistants if it's a 1st time coach. If it's MM, then it will speak for itself.

[Sir Why You Little 34,472]

Maybe we went for the best (Scully) when 2 or 3rd best (Martin) was willing & available?

Maybe we stalled proceedings to find what Everyone else was doing rather than stitching a deal?

Watch the Footy Show...Garry's demeanor should give some answers.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

I'm morraly bound to ask you Diablo- Are you OK? (RUOK week..)It's always doom and gloom with you.. I think you need a hug. Depression doesn't have to be faced alone...

Trivialise suicide that's mighty noble of you. Keyboard warrior aren't you. You know any of the 2500 people that killed themselves last year?

Your lack of tact is disgusting. Pull your head in.

[Super Demon 14]

Paul Roos could be our dark horse

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Watch the Footy Show...Garry's demeanor should give some answers.

definitely will.. nless he has a GREAT poker face i'm pretty good at picking up on body language. And 90% of what you say you say with your body. So it will be interesting.

[timD 994]

Ummm, listen captain high-and-mighty,

if you can prize you head free for just a sec, he was having a crack at your fatalistic, woe-is-me nonsense. Not suicide. Big difference.

He was making fun of you, not death. He was making fun of the way you trivilise every issue by being deplorably melodramatic.

Not suicide.

Take a minute. Take as many as you need.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Trivialise suicide that's mighty noble of you. Keyboard warrior aren't you. You know any of the 2500 people that killed themselves last year?

Your lack of tact is disgusting. Pull your head in.

I would never trivialise suicide dude! I didn't even mention suicide. It was a llight hearted jibe.

And yes I do know of a few people that have taken their own life.

[Sir Why You Little 34,472]

definitely will.. nless he has a GREAT poker face i'm pretty good at picking up on body language. And 90% of what you say you say with your body. So it will be interesting.

Exactly...Body language will tell us a lot, if Garry is on the back foot...then we are still searching.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Ummm, listen captain high-and-mighty,

if you can prize you head free for just a sec, he was having a crack at your fatalistic, woe-is-me nonsense. Not suicide. Big difference.

He was making fun of you, not death. He was making fun of the way you trivilise every issue by being deplorably melodramatic.

Not suicide.

Take a minute. Take as many as you need.

Thank you. And it is she, not he

No offense was meant, promise!

[darkhorse72 1,725]

If he was never made an offer, then he didn't reject us...pretty simple really. So no judgement on our club from him. Given the speed of this its been planned for a bit. They sealed the deal with Lyon and then booted harvey. Thats even low for a footy club. And I wont be surprised if it was done by the players as they rally run Freo.

[baysidedave 246]

Who says we don't have one already striker. I find it hard to believe that, as is being reported, Melbourne didn't even approach Lyon, we don't already have someone stitched up who we still cannot announce for one reason or the other. I just can't believe we are so amateur to let all this happen.

It has NOTHING to do with our club, Malthouse was asked last week who he would want to coach and he said MFC, Leigh Mathews was asked after he heard about Harvey being sacked and still said MFC is the club to coach, Lyon has gone simply because of MONEY, nothing more nothing less. He is going to get twice as much as we could give him, end of story and good riddance.

Edited September 15, 2011 by baysidedave