Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

FOUNDATION by Whispering Jack

The theme of the night for Melbourne's Foundation Heroes dinner at the Myer Mural Hall was "triumph over adversity". Before we went into the hall, Sid Myer, a descendant of the store's founder told of its history, how it was conceived and built during the Great Depression and how the artist who lost the use of his right arm and had to relearn his art using the left, painted the dozen murals. The feat was given as an example of the night's theme as much as it is what the Melbourne Football Club is now facing in so many ways after a tumultuous fortnight that appears to have left a club divided.

I'm not sure of the details of the alleged problems and it was not said last night at any time by anybody that the club was not without them. However, it was indicated clearly by more than one person who spoke that those problems, perceived or otherwise, will be dealt with and that they are not insurmountable. If is also clear that nobody at the club is shirking away from the issues and, if the promise to deal with them is honoured, a much stronger club can and will emerge.

Garry Lyon summed up the strength of the club by pointing to how Ron Barassi showed that he cared for his former teammates Noel McMahon and Stuart Spencer as they came down the stairs into the Myer Mural Hall. He wanted to be sure these elder legends of the club could safely execute the set of stairs into the hall at the beginning of the function. Eleven club legends were introduced to the attendees.

Meanwhile, a twelfth legend lay in hospital after undergoing a life determining operation.

Most of us were there because we really do care for the club, although it is conceded that there are some who appear to gain some joy from the club's woes both on and off the field. There were enough mirrors at the Myer Mural Hall for such people to take, as we say in football parlance, a good look at themselves.

For the second day in a row, there was reason for optimism. On Wednesday, I attended a lunch at which the guest speaker was Bruce Hearnden-Mackinnon, author of the Liam Jurrah biography. Flanked by the subject of his book and his team mate Aaron Davey, he spoke passionately as he told the story of Liam's rise from a child of the desert to an AFL footballer. I won't give away the story but I will say it was a fascinating tale and while I've read only the opening chapters of the book to date, I'm finding it totally enthralling. A former board member at the club told me a pertinent story about Liam, that when he was asked if he had read the book yet, he replied that he hadn't, "because it's about me."

That in itself speaks volumes for the man and his cultural heritage. He is a team man in a team game and such unselfishness is not all that common in our sport. When it's there however, you know that there is hope for your team.

Further, Bruce paid tribute to the Melbourne Football Club Player Development Manager , Ian Flack for the role that he had in welcoming Liam to AFL football at a time when several other clubs failed to understand that which was necessary to help a gifted young indigenous footballer from a remote desert region make it in the sport at elite level. Bruce called Ian Flack a "hero". After the past ten days of mudslinging and bad publicity (some of it totally irresponsible) directed at the club, the comment made my day.

Moving forward to the Foundation Heroes dinner, it was certainly less upbeat than the same function a year earlier which wiped out the club's debt. The purpose of this dinner was to give the club room to pay its players the gap between the 92.5% of the salary cap currently paid and the 100% allowable which could be used as front end payments to assist in securing its young list and in keeping them together.

Well, the aim was achieved and $800,000.00 was raised. The good news was that the club has re-signed five players, including its outstanding young midfielder Jack Trengove on a contract extension until the end of the 2015 season. Other deals confirmed were with defender Luke Tapscott, ruckman Max Gawn and rookies Michael Evans and Daniel Nicholson.

The attendees at the function were also informed that a new sponsor is also about to ink a new deal with the club with a sponsorship likely to be worth more than any previous club sponsorship.

The club is securing its financial future and with many young men like Liam Jurrah and Jack Trengove, who put team above themselves, I sense change already and, while I don't necessary predict a win on the field this week, I won't rule out an upset either. The foundations have already been laid for the changes that are coming.

THE GAME

Melbourne v West Coast Eagles at Etihad Stadium - Sunday 14 August 2011 at 1:10pm (AEST)

HEAD TO HEAD

Overall Melbourne 15 wins West Coast Eagles 26 wins

At Etihad Stadium Melbourne 1 win West Coast Eagles 0 wins

Since 2000 Melbourne 7 wins West Coast Eagles 10 wins

The Coaches Viney 0 wins Worsfold 0 wins

MEDIA

TV Fox Sports 1 at 1.00pm (live)

RADIO 1116SEN ABC774 3AW

THE BETTING

Melbourne to win $3.75 West Coast Eagles to win $1.25

LAST TIME THEY MET

West Coast Eagles 15.16.116 defeated Melbourne 6.16.52 at Paterson's Stadium Round 6, 2011

The Demons started slowly and just got worse. The effort was insipid. The team has this and lots more to atone for on Sunday.

THE TEAMS

MELBOURNE

Backs Luke Tapscott James Frawley Clint Bartram

Half backs Colin Garland Jared Rivers Joel Macdonald

Centreline Jack Trengove Lynden Dunn Aaron Davey

Half forwards Brad Green Jeremy Howe Tom Scully

Forwards Colin Sylvia Mark Jamar Jack Watts

Followers Stef Martin Brent Moloney Nathan Jones

Interchange Sam Blease Jordie McKenzie Cale Morton Ricky Petterd

Emergencies Max Gawn Tom McDonald Daniel Nicholson

In Sam Blease Mark Jamar Cale Morton Colin Sylvia

Out Matthew Bate Max Gawn Jordan Gysberts (scaphoid) James Strauss

WEST COAST EAGLES

Backs Will Schofield Eric Mackenzie Shannon Hurn

Half backs Scott Selwood Mitch Brown Ashley Smith

Centreline Andrew Embley Matthew Priddis Brad Ebert

Half forwards Andrew Gaff Josh Kennedy Mark Nicoski

Forwards Nic Naitanui Quinten Lynch Mark Le Cras

Followers Dean Cox Daniel Kerr Adam Selwood

Interchange Jack Darling Ashton Hams Patrick McGinnity Luke Shuey

Emergencies Bradd Dalziell Chris Masten Brad Sheppard

In Ashton Hams Josh Kennedy Eric Mackenzie

Out Darren Glass (soreness) Chris Masten Matthew Rosa (knee)

FLYING HIGH by JVM

If truth be known, the whole concept of a final eight is a futile exercise - a waste of time. The incidence of teams finishing anywhere between fifth and eighth progressing beyond the second week of the finals is not great and I don't believe that any team coming from below fifth has ever progressed far under the AFL's top eight system. I am rather bemused therefore, that there is still ongoing discussion about Melbourne making it all the way to the finals after what has happened in the past few weeks.

Actually, it would be downright embarrassing if the Demons made it into the finals because the insipid brand of football that we've seen from so many of its players during this period is simply not suggestive of a team deserving to be in the same company as the other contenders for the last place or two in the race for the finals.

Indeed, in the unlikely event of Melbourne making an appearance in the first week of the finals, there is every chance that we might witness a repeat of recent nightmares given the probable scenario of a first up September visit to Patterson's Curse Stadium and an obliteration by the Eagles on their home soil.

Fortunately for those who fear the consequences of such a trip out west, the word "unlikely" gets a very strong run in deliberations about Melbourne's finals chances. For the Demons to make it into the eight, they not only must win all four of their remaining matches, they also rely on some upsets to occur in games over which they have no control. The first problem they have in that regard is that upset wins have been remarkably thin on the ground lately. In fact, the concern has been more with the number and size of blow out losses rather than upset wins. Assuming they win those four last games, the Demons rely on Essendon or Sydney collapsing over the next month. The Bombers would have to lose two out of three while the Tigers would need to beat the Swans at the G on Sunday. I wouldn't bet the ranch on either of those things coming to pass.

Then there's the little matter of Melbourne emerging victorious over West Coast in their match-up at Etihad. The Dees couldn't achieve that outcome on their true home turf last year when the Eagles were wooden spooners. What chance now that they're really flying high?

There were few if any who would have called this game a win for the visitors before the season began. Most were predicting that Melbourne would be in line for a spot in the top eight while the Eagles were expected to finish somewhere near the bottom. The doomsayers were suggesting that right about now there might be news coming out of Subiaco that Worsfold was joining the ranks of sacked coaches. Instead, it's the Demons who are suffering and even the replacement of Dean Bailey by Todd Viney did little to prevent a thrashing last week from Carlton led by a rampant Chris Judd.

The Demons also need to overcome the memory of their last encounter with the Eagles when they extended their losing streak at Subiaco in an embarrassing display that saw them make only three inside 50 entries in the first term on the way to a complete and utter strangulation. We also saw the first major outward signs of cracks in the fabric of the team that ultimately led to the demise of the coach a fortnight ago. And speaking of losing streaks, there's Melbourne's appalling recent record at Etihad...

The good news is that the Demons are strengthened by the return of All Australian ruckman Mark Jamar and blond dynamo Colin Sylvia. The Demons need both players at their top and firing if they are to have any chance in this game. Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui overpowered the Demon rucks in their last encounter but this time Jamar will have Stef Martin to help him out. The interesting inclusion for mine is much maligned former Sandgroper Cale Morton who has been a shining light in the VFL in recent weeks. Here is a player who struggled for confidence under Bailey's coaching. Is it possible that, with a new role in the middle under a new mentor, we are going to finally see the blossoming of a player once destined to be a star? Certainly, the Demons need to find something extra in the middle if they are going to overcome the Eagles whose onballers, led by the resurgent Daniel Kerr.

Melbourne had problems last time in curbing West Coast's tall forwards and it wont be helped by the return of key forward Josh Kennedy after missing two games with an eye injury caused by team mate Cox. The Demons have prided themselves in recent times on having a strong defence and they must now produce the goods. The likes of James Frawley, Col Garland, Joel Macdonald, Clint Bartram and co have faced constant and intense pressure from powerful forward line combinations in the past month and this week will be no exception. They will need to be able to repel those attacks and run through the lines to give their team a chance of winning. The inclusion of a genuine speedster in Sam Blease who made a cameo debut on this ground as a substitute against the Bulldogs might help. The kid has worked hard to overcome a bad break in his foot two years ago and has little game time on debut. He deserves a much kinder break this time.

Another interesting aspect of this game will be the form of Melbourne's top two draft selections from two years ago. Tom Scully's decision to hold off his contract decision until the end of the season sits in direct contrast to Jack Trengove's show of support for the club in its moment of plight by extending his commitment by three years. They are different cats these two but what matters most in the immediate future is whether they can combine to help their team to finally win a game at the Docklands and put to an end a losing streak at the venue that stands at 11 games. The club never won a game at the Docklands under Bailey. Can its youth deliver Todd Viney something that has proven to be elusive since they beat the Western Bulldogs there in round 19, 2007?

The good news in this is that the Eagles form at this venue hasn't been all that great either. They've never beaten Melbourne there although the only time they met there was back in 2000 when Jeff White was in rare form.

I think the Demons will improve this week but they have yet to show the ability to put together four good quarters against the top sides and that will be their ultimate undoing.

West Coast to continue flying high and to put the final nail in the coffin of Melbourne's finals aspirations by 25 points.

Posted

I hardly ever comment on Jacks writings any more. I just accept his skill and insight.

I found this unexpectedly moving. Thanks WJ.

Posted

Good write-up WJ. And well done to the people who attended the Foundation dinner.

PS. Round 6 was at Paterson's Stadium.

edit: I have fixed it.

Posted

I don't know why but I have a good feeling about this weekend. I think we might surprise a few and sneak a win. I have no evidence other than a good old gut feeling. That and it's no on free to air tv which normally means we play better ;-)

Posted

On the AFL website our game is the only one that hasn't been named yet.

CHANGES v West Coast Eagles, ETIHAD STADIUM Sun 1:10pm

Melbourne:

IN - Sylvia, Jamar, Morton, Blease, McDonald (New), Nicholson.

OUT - Strauss (inj), Gysberts (inj), Bate

West Coast Eagles:

IN - Eric MacKenzie, Josh Kennedy, Bradd Dalziell, Brad Sheppard, Ashton Hams.

OUT - Glass (Soreness), Rosa (knee)

In other news:

*Sandilands back for Fremantle - Dappa Dan will be happy for Ultimate Footy.

*John Butcher in for his first game at Port Adelaide.

Posted

Gysberts falls victim to a wrist injury (probably overdue a rest anyway), and no Jurrah again:

Melbourne

B: Luke Tapscott, James Frawley, Clint Bartram

HB: Colin Garland, Jared Rivers, Joel Macdonald

C: Jack Trengove, Lynden Dunn, Aaron Davey

HF: Brad Green, Jeremy Howe, Tom Scully

F: Colin Sylvia, Mark Jamar, Jack Watts

FOLL: Stef Martin, Brent Moloney, Nathan Jones

I/C (from): Cale Morton, Jordie McKenzie, Ricky Petterd, Max Gawn, Tom McDonald, Sam Blease, Daniel Nicholson

IN: Mark Jamar, Colin Sylvia, Cale Morton, Sam Blease, Tom McDonald, Daniel Nicholson

OUT: James Strauss (leg), Jordan Gysberts (scaphoid), Matthew Bate

NEW: Tom McDonald

Posted

You'd think that McKenzie and Petterd are certs for the final bench, while Gawn would be the likely casualty for Jamar.

That leaves 2 spots between Morton, Nicholson, Blease and McDonald. I'd like to see McDonald get a guernsey and also Nicholson.


Posted

I always have a suspicion when i see a write up on a new player on the MFC website and he is named on the extended bench- why do the write up if he is only going to be emergency.

I believe McDonald will make his debut (also considering the tall WCE forward line).

The final interchange to be:

McKenzie, Petterd, McDonald, Morton

Emg: Blease, Gawn, Nicholson

The only one i'm not sure on is Morton or Blease- reckon it's 50/50 although Morton has put in a few very good Casey games...

Posted

McKenzie and Petterd will surely play. Tom McDonald will hopefully get a run as he's earned it by all reports. Think the last spot will be between Morton and Nicholson. Personally I'd like Morton in - I'm still hoping he'll make it; it's time to give him the opportunity to take the first step to redemption.

Posted

Bench Morton, McKenzie, Petterd and Blease. Would have like to have McDonald and Nicho playing but....

Bad injury for Gysberts. If its a broken scaphoid then its not good.

Bate looks like he has played his last MFC game.

Posted

My bench preference: Blease, McKenzie, Morton, Petterd

I actually think Nicholson needs a rest. McDonald should debut at the G next week :)

Posted

Is there some doubt about Jamar? The only point I can see in picking all of Gawn, Jamar and Martin is that the Russian may be a late withdrawal.

Personally, I'd like to see Morton play and be on the ball - basically a straight swap for Gysberts. Pretty similar physiques, too. I presmue McKenzie and Petterd play, so I suspect the final choice for the bench is a small to replace Strauss. So for me it's between Blease and Nicholson. I like what I've seen from Nicholson so far, but surely it's time for Blease to get a full game.

Posted

McDonald will play.

Players named for their first game play 99.9978% of the time.

I'd like to see Morton, Blease, Petterd, McKenzie...

But I think Blease will be swapped for McDonald, in reality.

Hoping both Blease & McDonald get a few opportunities before the season is out.

Posted

McDonald will play.

Players named for their first game play 99.9978% of the time.

I'd like to see Morton, Blease, Petterd, McKenzie...

But I think Blease will be swapped for McDonald, in reality.

Hoping both Blease & McDonald get a few opportunities before the season is out.

Really? Hasn't Tom McDonald been named on the bench previously and not played? If so, I guess that makes him part of the 0.0022%

Posted

Has he?

I've watched it over the last few years since I noticed that players named on an extended bench for their first game never miss out... and then one bucked the trend.

Can't remember who it was, but it was earlier this year. Could've easily been Tom.

Posted

He's been named emergency a few times but they went to the length of putting an article on the club website about him which always makes me think he'll play.


Posted

Final INS: Morton, Blease, Jamar, Sylvia.

Well there ya go.

McDonald did miss out.

Good to see the kid is getting close, anyway.

My tip is for Blease to be sub.

Posted

Final INS: Morton, Blease, Jamar, Sylvia.

Well there ya go.

McDonald did miss out.

Good to see the kid is getting close, anyway.

My tip is for Blease to be sub.

I hope Blease starts tbh.

Posted

Personally, I'd like to see Morton play and be on the ball - basically a straight swap for Gysberts.

This is exactly what I hope for. If he has been finding form as an onballer I will be bitterly disappointed if I see him line up at half back.

Posted

I hope Blease starts tbh.

Same.

I'd like us to get a full game into him.

Who else would get sub though?

Dunn, maybe?

Posted

Final INS: Morton, Blease, Jamar, Sylvia.

Well there ya go.

McDonald did miss out.

Good to see the kid is getting close, anyway.

My tip is for Blease to be sub.

So much for my prophesising about McDonald playing on the back of the article on the MFC website!!! I give myself an uppercut!

Same.

I'd like us to get a full game into him.

Who else would get sub though?

Dunn, maybe?

Yeah i would love to see Blease given the opportunity to play a whole game and really get a feel for it.

And i would also love to see Morton playing a full game through the middle of the ground.

I don't know the rules on whether the sub has to come from one of the named interchange players or it can be anyone but if it can be anyone then perhaps Dunn. But maybe even Ricky Bobby (he did it well in Round 1)!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...