Tonight is the turning point for the MFC.

[monoccular 17,305]

The entire club is just plain WEAK - no other way of putting it.

They just tolerate mediocrity, and have done so for decades, utter a few platitudes, and expect us long term fans to tolerate it too.

RUBBISH.

YES, IT IS A CROSSROADS.

I CERTAINLY WON'T BUST MY GUT TO GET TO GAMES AS I HAD PLANNED TO DO THIS MYTHICAL SEASON OF RESURGANCE!

ABOUT AS MYTHICAL AS DANIHER'S RUTHLESNESS.

WEAK CLUB.

(I STILL LOVE THEM THOUGH DESPITE IT!)

[Sir Why You Little 36,598]

The entire club is just plain WEAK - no other way of putting it.

They just tolerate mediocrity, and have done so for decades, utter a few platitudes, and expect us long term fans to tolerate it too.

RUBBISH.

YES, IT IS A CROSSROADS.

I CERTAINLY WON'T BUST MY GUT TO GET TO GAMES AS I HAD PLANNED TO DO THIS MYTHICAL SEASON OF RESURGANCE!

ABOUT AS MYTHICAL AS DANIHER'S RUTHLESNESS.

WEAK CLUB.

(I STILL LOVE THEM THOUGH DESPITE IT!)

Go to the games and make noise....if you stay away the club is not harmed....it is the exact point we have to change.

I understand your point...but to make a change you actually have to do the opposite.

By going to games we keep the club cashed up so we can demand that they spend money on top line FD coaches.

[BangkokDemon 96]

It's fair to say the membership department had absolutely nothing to do in relation to memberships last Friday, hence the reply from them..

That's a cynical thing to say about the membership department - and to my mind, quite unnecessary.

Do you sit in the office and know what goes on?

It's possible that she replied to me, because it was obvious I had written 3 times and as I had another matter in my mail, the task of a response was given to the membership department. I don't know why I was "granted" a response. I just know I was and it could have been as simple as my explanation here. Moreover, the last statement, that the mail would be passed to the Football Department, leads me to think, it will happen.

Don't be so cynical.

What do you want them to do ?

Come to your house, sit down and have a chat with you ?

I think they have much more pressing things to do with their time right now.

Hopefully we will all get the answer we want; next Sunday and as other posters have said - which I am sure we all want - that we stay on course for the rest of this year, so as to achieve the ultimate in the years ahead.

[Dee Dee 1,099]

For those who think the club is not listening, I just received this :

Thank you for your email regarding last night’s game. The game was extremely disappointing for everyone involved with the Club.

Please be assured that no one at the club is satisfied with the result or the standard of the game last night. It is now up to us to respond and the players and coaches are already focussed on our round 7 match against Adelaide at the MCG.

Your email has been forwarded to the Football department.

Thank you for taking the time to write and for your support of the Club.

Well, well, well, I received the same email!

I bet it's a form letter kept by the club.

[BangkokDemon 96]

Well, well, well, I received the same email!

I bet it's a form letter kept by the club.

I'm not defending the club for using a "standard" response .

But I will say, that's quite normal in the business world, when there's a crisis and/or sensitive issue requiring a response.

What do you want them to do?

Sit round in a room with Jimmy, DB, Cam & CC, and read out everyone's mail to each other, noting our "brilliant" solutions to a problem we pay them to deal with ?

As WYL has continually stated in his posts on the subject, the important bit is,they know we are angry.

That they might have used a template response, indicates to me, they probably got lots of mail.

More, they got the message (a common one from all of us)and are now doing something about it.

[frankie_d 1,467]

Well, well, well, I received the same email!

I bet it's a form letter kept by the club.

me too - same letter, but I wouldn't expect an individual answer - the NUMBER of letters is the key

Edited April 30, 2011 by frankie_d

[BangkokDemon 96]

me too - same letter, but I wouldn't expect an individual answer - the NUMBER of letters is the key

Exactly !

[Ryan Dee 140]

Would not surprise me if they didn't even read them and just sent that automated message.

[Beetle 4,531]

That's a cynical thing to say about the membership department - and to my mind, quite unnecessary.

Do you sit in the office and know what goes on?

It's possible that she replied to me, because it was obvious I had written 3 times and as I had another matter in my mail, the task of a response was given to the membership department. I don't know why I was "granted" a response. I just know I was and it could have been as simple as my explanation here. Moreover, the last statement, that the mail would be passed to the Football Department, leads me to think, it will happen.

Don't be so cynical.

What do you want them to do ?

Come to your house, sit down and have a chat with you ?

I think they have much more pressing things to do with their time right now.

Hopefully we will all get the answer we want; next Sunday and as other posters have said - which I am sure we all want - that we stay on course for the rest of this year, so as to achieve the ultimate in the years ahead.

For christs sake get a grip man.

It was a light hearted throw away line to indicate that I'm sure we didn't get a lot of membership enquiries off the back of Thursday nights performance.

[BangkokDemon 96]

For christs sake get a grip man.

It was a light hearted throw away line to indicate that I'm sure we didn't get a lot of membership enquiries off the back of Thursday nights performance.

Okay got me!

Guess I'm too excited about going to the MCG next Sunday to see them play live - for the first time in 20 years!!!

Go Dees

[Sir Why You Little 36,598]

Would not surprise me if they didn't even read them and just sent that automated message.

Don't kid yourself Mate, if this club has any balls they will read every email and listen to every phone call. It was the supporters who put the hand in the pocket and paid off our debt.

The Club needs every supporter it has and more.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

I too got the automated response. Will write back asking why.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Don't kid yourself Mate, if this club has any balls they will read every email and listen to every phone call. It was the supporters who put the hand in the pocket and paid off our debt.

The Club needs every supporter it has and more.

Its a pity that the emailers and phone callers will not have regard for your last sentence. And its insulting to suggest that the club does not have "any balls" to do something. I would trust the Club uses its time more effectively to accurately addressing the problem than listen to emotive wingnuts address their own issues.

I can bet you the supporters who paid the debt are necessarily the ones who use the situation to direct their bile at the MFC in tough times. So few carrying so many.

[Nasher 33,607]

Every time someone at the club has to answer inane, repetitive letters, that's time they could be spending doing other work. And there would've been hundreds and hundreds of these to answer after Thursday night.

As far as I'm concerned, the more pre-prepared responses they have, the better.

There's also no way of being sure it's a "form letter". I'm picturing a young woman sitting at a PC, reading the same old whinge from emotional supporters over and over again. Of course she's going to copy and paste the response she gave to the last bloke three minutes ago. You guys who are writing letters aren't saying anything unique, you're just regurgitating the same thing every other supporter is saying, so I don't know why you expect a unique response.

[jayceebee31 697]

We are at a crossroads, plain and simple. It was Jimmy's board who continually backed Dean Bailey, glowing in their appraisal of him. It has now become obvious that the board was tricked by an impostor. Do we go into hiding, hoping it will all work out for the best, or do we take a stand and say "we will be the masters of our own destiny". It's time for the board to stand up and be counted, when it most needs to. As Beamer passionately said, "we are on a straight line and we will not deviate", so be it if it costs the coach his job. No one man is bigger than the MFC.

As for the player's, what more motivation does one need than to know that, should they win the ultimate, they will become immortals. Talked of for generations, forever the 22 that brought an end to our premiership drought. It's a scary thought, but does anyone realise that there might soon come a time that the MFC has no surviving premiership players?

Well thought out and stated but you forgot to add Mahoney to your list..

[jayceebee31 697]

Its a pity that the emailers and phone callers will not have regard for your last sentence. And its insulting to suggest that the club does not have "any balls" to do something. I would trust the Club uses its time more effectively to accurately addressing the problem than listen to emotive wingnuts address their own issues.

I can bet you the supporters who paid the debt are necessarily the ones who use the situation to direct their bile at the MFC in tough times. So few carrying so many.

I understand your point and whilst I stir often this is a very seroius issue and I agree with Why you little's viewpoint. Schwab took an extremely hard line with Beamer and now Stynes has to take the same with the football department. Needs to lay down the law for us members and supporters.

[Choko 493]

Well, well, well, I received the same email!

I bet it's a form letter kept by the club.

Oh come on. You have obviously never worked in an organisation.

It is entirely appropriate for the club to work on a template response to members' emails, at least as an initial response. If, in the fullness of time, a member's email deserves a specific response, then that should happen too.

The inference that a template response is inappropriate is naive at best.

[Choko 493]

I too got the automated response. Will write back asking why.

You do that. You're very important right now.

Edited May 1, 2011 by Choko

[Striker475 696]

Eh about the automated response. While I do understand the more human reasons for people being annoyed at such a response, having taken the time to write an email and expecting a similar sort of time to respond, you have to remember that the other end of the email probably has at least a thousand of the same. 2-3 minutes to respond individually to each = a waste of a couple of days.

But honestly, I've never seen the supporters revved up like this. There are a lot of very angry people wearing red and blue right now, and if things don't change quick-smart the club may start to see memberships return, attendances fall etc

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I understand your point and whilst I stir often this is a very seroius issue and I agree with Why you little's viewpoint. Schwab took an extremely hard line with Beamer and now Stynes has to take the same with the football department. Needs to lay down the law for us members and supporters.

Are you saying that the FD have transgressed their duties like Beamer?? Oh dear. I dont think Beamer's situation is a goodp roxy at for the football department

I am not sure what ritual will satisfy "us members and supporters". A flogging, a hanging.

The best thing for the FD to do is rectify the problems as best they can and I am sure the Board/Stynes is encouraging them to do that. The last thing I want Stynes to do is to put on some cheap piece of grandstanding that has supporters coffing "That will show'em".

From what Stynes was dealing with in the media, I think he realises this. The MFC Board need show strength of commitment and smarts beyond the bulk of the D'land posting since last Thursday.

[Sir Why You Little 36,598]

Its a pity that the emailers and phone callers will not have regard for your last sentence. And its insulting to suggest that the club does not have "any balls" to do something. I would trust the Club uses its time more effectively to accurately addressing the problem than listen to emotive wingnuts address their own issues.

I can bet you the supporters who paid the debt are necessarily the ones who use the situation to direct their bile at the MFC in tough times. So few carrying so many.

Are you suggesting i am a "wingnut" supporter Rhino??

[IWAP 170]

A disgrace that the club is not writing individualised and personal emails to all supporters that write in. I understand we have limited resources, so why are we wasting time with all these extra developmental coaches, and modern sports science techniques when there should be full-time staff employed to write to supporters to comfort and assure them that everything will be alright.

[Hannabal 4]

Are you suggesting i am a "wingnut" supporter Rhino??

That term had a different connotation when I was a kid.

[Sir Why You Little 36,598]

That term had a different connotation when I was a kid.

Yes i know!!!!

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Are you suggesting i am a "wingnut" supporter Rhino??

Huh.

You feel an association to it?