Played a great game in the VFL Grand Final and showed some dangerous pace. Worth a look in at least in the rookie draft.

Certainly impressed me. Moves like Stephen Hill.

A very impressive footballer and promising footballer who definitely will make a list. A huge pre season will even bring him on further. He did not even train with North Ballarat - only picked up later on. Trained with BFL league team - Redan.

  On 20/09/2010 at 05:52, High Tower said:

Certainly impressed me. Moves like Stephen Hill.

Yes HT the exact same player I compared him to, very dangerous left footer, moves really well and reads the play.

Where has this kid been?

He's only 21.

I hope Melbourne had some officials there yesterday, because he was impressive!

He won't make it to the rookie draft.

I have the feeling Mark Harvey (because he was at the game and because of his experience re: Barlow, Silvagni) will pick him up nice and early - even if it is a decent draft year, he ranks that well.

  On 20/09/2010 at 22:23, Mr Untouchable said:

He won't make it to the rookie draft.

I have the feeling Mark Harvey (because he was at the game and because of his experience re: Barlow, Silvagni) will pick him up nice and early - even if it is a decent draft year, he ranks that well.

Kicked a nice goal at a crucial time when the Bullants were coming.

Anyone with the name Isaac has no place at this club, Once bitten twice shy.

Interesting thread to revive. You have to wonder about Isaac Smith's value right now to a club like us in need of outside spread.

He's signed until the end of 2020. However given Clarko's recent admonishment to his 'middle of the road' list, If I was in his shoes and i'd been looked over for the captaincy (sound familiar?),  I'd be concerned about extending my contract or getting out of there to a club prepared to give me 3 years. I wonder if we could prize him away from the Hawks by taking him off their books and giving them our 3rd or 4th round pick, which as it stands, is probably not going to do that much for us.

Edited May 7, 20195 yr by John Demonic

clarko was super aggravated about dropping the game to us on the weekend

smith has not, as yet, lost his pace

would be interesting to see if they offer him an extension; if not, he might want to exercise pre-agency to get a longer contract with another club

  On 07/05/2019 at 07:01, whatwhatsaywhat said:

clarko was super aggravated about dropping the game to us on the weekend

smith has not, as yet, lost his pace

would be interesting to see if they offer him an extension; if not, he might want to exercise pre-agency to get a longer contract with another club

Yeah, he hasn't lost his pace. I can still see a few demonlanders chiming in soon about being a retirement home.

I do think we still need an injection of experience AND skill into the team, ideally you'd get a 25-26 year old wingman in the peak of their careers, but Isaac Smith is a rare quality who may have 3+ years to give a team like us that needs a few more personnel to bump us back up the ladder. I don't subscribe to us being a bottom side again, a few more tweaks and players to come in and i think we're back to being in the 5-8 range with a few more recruitment needs towards us being a contender.

Edited May 7, 20195 yr by John Demonic

Forward line

Isaac, Tom S and Joel

  On 07/05/2019 at 07:01, whatwhatsaywhat said:

clarko was super aggravated about dropping the game to us on the weekend

smith has not, as yet, lost his pace

would be interesting to see if they offer him an extension; if not, he might want to exercise pre-agency to get a longer contract with another club

One of the great outcomes of Rnd 7 was getting under Clarko's skin.  That's two in a row. 

It was their best against ours and they hadn't had anywhere near the number of injuries and off field issues we've had so far.

One very poor sore loser is Mr AL

HAWTHORN

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Grant Birchall	Calf/knee	Indefinite
James Cousins	Suspended	Available
James Frawley	Hamstring	Test
Tom Mitchell	Broken leg	Indefinite
Tim Mohr	Dislocated knee/ACL	Season
Updated: Tuesday, May 7

MELBOURNE

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Mitch Hannan	Knee	2-3 weeks
Neville Jetta	Knee	10-12 weeks
Jay Kennedy Harris	Leg	3 weeks
Kade Kolodjashnij	Concussion	TBC
Jake Lever	Knee	2-3 weeks
Steven May	Groin	3-4 weeks
Corey Maynard	Hip	3 weeks
Aaron Nietschke	Knee	Season
Braydon Preuss	Shoulder	Test
Joel Smith	Groin	6-8 weeks
Tim Smith	Back	Test
Aaron vandenBerg	Ankle	TBC
Jack Viney	Shoulder	Test
Guy Walker	Shoulder	Indefinite
Updated: Tuesday, May 7

He would be cream at the Dees for a 3rd or 4th rounder.

  On 07/05/2019 at 08:25, Rusty Nails said:

One of the great outcomes of Rnd 7 was getting under Clarko's skin.  That's two in a row. 

It was their best against ours and they hadn't had anywhere near the number of injuries and off field issues we've had so far.

One very poor sore loser is Mr AL

HAWTHORN

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Grant Birchall	Calf/knee	Indefinite
James Cousins	Suspended	Available
James Frawley	Hamstring	Test
Tom Mitchell	Broken leg	Indefinite
Tim Mohr	Dislocated knee/ACL	Season
Updated: Tuesday, May 7

MELBOURNE

Player	Injury	Estimated Return
Mitch Hannan	Knee	2-3 weeks
Neville Jetta	Knee	10-12 weeks
Jay Kennedy Harris	Leg	3 weeks
Kade Kolodjashnij	Concussion	TBC
Jake Lever	Knee	2-3 weeks
Steven May	Groin	3-4 weeks
Corey Maynard	Hip	3 weeks
Aaron Nietschke	Knee	Season
Braydon Preuss	Shoulder	Test
Joel Smith	Groin	6-8 weeks
Tim Smith	Back	Test
Aaron vandenBerg	Ankle	TBC
Jack Viney	Shoulder	Test
Guy Walker	Shoulder	Indefinite
Updated: Tuesday, May 7

Good old Dave Misson ey, what a get he was from the Bulldogs.

  On 07/05/2019 at 09:54, Win4theAges said:

Good old Dave Misson ey, what a get he was from the Bulldogs.

Saints wasnt it??

Come from the Swans.

 

He was at the Swans first and then the Saints. Then us.

  On 07/05/2019 at 13:45, BAMF said:

He was at the Swans first and then the Saints. Then us.

His track record was keeping Sydney fit for two GF, of which they won one, and playing finals consistently and then taking St Kilda to two GF's a lnd consistent finals. Shocking track record. 

I had a trade-crash on Isaac Smith a couple of years back, thought he was a perfect fit for what we were missing.

He's still going at 30years, at about 85%-90% of what he was at peak at 27. 

For that he has a lot of my respect, but I don't think the reward is there to try to get him when at any moment he could drop another 10-15%... and then another...

Where oh where will we find our 'knife'? It is driving me quietly crazy.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/05/28/dogs-to-target-hawks-premiership-midfielder-and-star-sun-in-potential-trade/

“Trade news comes early, the cashed up Bulldogs have put together their hit list for this year and Isaac Smith is at the top of it. Prodigious talent Jack Martin is the next one on the list.

“Smith is a huge favourite of Luke Beveridge’s who spent three years with him at Hawthorn.

“Beveridge still believes that Smith is the best wingman in the competition.

 

  On 07/05/2019 at 09:54, Win4theAges said:

Nietschke

Badly injured but recovering? I had a conversation with one of our better forwards, who left me in no doubt that he considers this kid to be an exceptional recruit, and once his injury is over ....

  On 28/05/2019 at 08:32, John Demonic said:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/05/28/dogs-to-target-hawks-premiership-midfielder-and-star-sun-in-potential-trade/

“Trade news comes early, the cashed up Bulldogs have put together their hit list for this year and Isaac Smith is at the top of it. Prodigious talent Jack Martin is the next one on the list.

“Smith is a huge favourite of Luke Beveridge’s who spent three years with him at Hawthorn.

“Beveridge still believes that Smith is the best wingman in the competition.

 

Beveridge won a flag, so that validates my opinion of Isaac Smith. The bloke is an absolute jet, and exactly what we need to go to the "next level" (assuming our next level is a Grand Final and not, y'know, 14th instead of 15th).

  On 28/05/2019 at 09:49, Chook said:

Beveridge won a flag, so that validates my opinion of Isaac Smith. The bloke is an absolute jet, and exactly what we need to go to the "next level" (assuming our next level is a Grand Final and not, y'know, 14th instead of 15th).

One of our must gets to snag one in the near term Chook.  Couldn't agree more

I can smell a 'need for leadership' coming on.

At least this bloke complements what we need on field....with outside run, metres gained and leg speed etc...

Jay Clark reporting that Isaac Smith is still up for grabs. Probably can’t add much more to this thread, but can’t believe we’re not having a serious look at him. 

I get the knock on his age, but he just oozes class and was last year a potential captain of the club. Just what we need - good kick, still quick, leadership and wont be coming at a premium price.