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these Jack Watts threads are the biggest snooze fests ever.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Charlie Watts has been a far more consistant performer over the years IMO...

Thats because its so easy to play 2 and 4

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There's two reasons why JW is not being considered for senior selection.

1. His form with CS has not been good enough - fair enough.

2. Now for the real reason. Jack still has a sore back. How sore? I don't know.

Presumably not sore enough to keep him out of the CS.

I don't know about the sore back, but I think the club rightfully is taking a slow approach with Jack to ease him through the season.

I also heard an interview with CC Connolly on the weekend which explained a lot to me. He said Jack is still growing taller. This he said means the bones are soft.

I don't know about 'soft' bones, but, I DO KNOW that when a young man's frame is still growing, the bones end plates get sore from too much load & this is not good to load them up too much when growth is happening. It can do damage to the bones. I learnt about this stuff some years back, but am not still in touch with the latest medical theories, Re this situation.

I do know it makes bugger all difference for us this year if we finish 9th or 12th at the end of the year. So to me there is no rush for him to be put in any risk, or rushing him in for bragging rights is pointless to the extreme.

Anyway there are other players (forwards) we need to screen before the end of the season to see where they are in their careers & or development.

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This is getting more annoying than the annual 'Bring Back Woewodein' threads.

Does anyone know if Watts bleeds red and blue?

Posted

Kinda like Butcher right? Similar age, similar size. I guess Butcher has a shocking attitude and that's why he isn't playing as well.

Tom Lynch? Went in the same draft and can't even get a look in when Reiwoldt is out of action. Shocking attitude.

Oh, and McKernan. Can't forget him. Disgraceful the way he goes about things.

Or how about Scott Gumbleton? He was drafted two years before and he's barely played a game or produced anything. Terrible attitude that boy must have. Number 2 pick? What a waste!

Lachy Henderson? Top ten pick my ass! He's never done anything worth writing home about!

Damn, when you get right down to it, it looks like all of the forwards drafted in the last few years have been shockers. None of them have any work ethic, they all have attitude problems and there's not a scrap of talent in the bunch. What on earth is going through the heads of all those recruiters?

Game set & match


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I don't know about the sore back, but I think the club rightfully is taking a slow approach with Jack to ease him through the season.

I also heard an interview with CC Connolly on the weekend which explained a lot to me. He said Jack is still growing taller. This he said means the bones are soft.

I don't know about 'soft' bones, but, I DO KNOW that when a young man's frame is still growing, the bones end plates get sore from too much load & this is not good to load them up too much when growth is happening. It can do damage to the bones. I learnt about this stuff some years back, but am not still in touch with the latest medical theories, Re this situation.

I do know it makes bugger all difference for us this year if we finish 9th or 12th at the end of the year. So to me there is no rush for him to be put in any risk, or rushing him in for bragging rights is pointless to the extreme.

Anyway there are other players (forwards) we need to screen before the end of the season to see where they are in their careers & or development.

If his bones are too soft then why are they playing him Casey?...why not just send him to Uni for 4 years until he stops growing...

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Charlie Swings SwampF like no other, there is a way to play them 2's & 4's. B)

Hehe yeah was kidding

Has a Jazz background

Nothing sweeter than some Bonham Triplets though :)

Ok back to the Jack Watts saga

Carry On

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This thread sucks. There's nothing in it and there's already a Jack Watts thread not two posts down on the board (at time of posting).

Please use that.

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Kinda like Butcher right? Similar age, similar size. I guess Butcher has a shocking attitude and that's why he isn't playing as well.

Tom Lynch? Went in the same draft and can't even get a look in when Reiwoldt is out of action. Shocking attitude.

Oh, and McKernan. Can't forget him. Disgraceful the way he goes about things.

Or how about Scott Gumbleton? He was drafted two years before and he's barely played a game or produced anything. Terrible attitude that boy must have. Number 2 pick? What a waste!

Lachy Henderson? Top ten pick my ass! He's never done anything worth writing home about!

Damn, when you get right down to it, it looks like all of the forwards drafted in the last few years have been shockers. None of them have any work ethic, they all have attitude problems and there's not a scrap of talent in the bunch. What on earth is going through the heads of all those recruiters?

I think this kinda sums up the whole Jack Watts position right now....Everybody please read it & then take notice. B)

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Kinda like Butcher right? Similar age, similar size. I guess Butcher has a shocking attitude and that's why he isn't playing as well.

Tom Lynch? Went in the same draft and can't even get a look in when Reiwoldt is out of action. Shocking attitude.

Oh, and McKernan. Can't forget him. Disgraceful the way he goes about things.

Or how about Scott Gumbleton? He was drafted two years before and he's barely played a game or produced anything. Terrible attitude that boy must have. Number 2 pick? What a waste!

Lachy Henderson? Top ten pick my ass! He's never done anything worth writing home about!

Damn, when you get right down to it, it looks like all of the forwards drafted in the last few years have been shockers. None of them have any work ethic, they all have attitude problems and there's not a scrap of talent in the bunch. What on earth is going through the heads of all those recruiters?

If this isn't enough to shut up all the big footy terds, then I don't know what is.

Can this be the end of the discussion now...???

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Kinda like Butcher right? Similar age, similar size. I guess Butcher has a shocking attitude and that's why he isn't playing as well.

Tom Lynch? Went in the same draft and can't even get a look in when Reiwoldt is out of action. Shocking attitude.

Oh, and McKernan. Can't forget him. Disgraceful the way he goes about things.

Or how about Scott Gumbleton? He was drafted two years before and he's barely played a game or produced anything. Terrible attitude that boy must have. Number 2 pick? What a waste!

Lachy Henderson? Top ten pick my ass! He's never done anything worth writing home about!

Damn, when you get right down to it, it looks like all of the forwards drafted in the last few years have been shockers. None of them have any work ethic, they all have attitude problems and there's not a scrap of talent in the bunch. What on earth is going through the heads of all those recruiters?

Beautifully said!

Please........someone be dumb enough to challenge this.......I need a good laugh!

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I started the new post on Jack Watts.

Why?

Because the original post was so large.

It's interesting to interact with fellow Demon tragics in this forum.

Some become agitated, some digest the information and try to 'enhance' it.

Curious.

By the way, my original post, now wound up, was that Jack Watts has a sore back.

No big deal, but happens to be true.

Fluxus dominatis

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I think he will be ready in time, Rewoldt took time to develop. Having said that, we saw him a fortnight ago for Casey, he moves well has a great turn of speed but not yet having a huge impact. In that game there were others that deserved a spot before Jack

Understandably Watts wil take time, but please do NOT compare him to Riewoldt who played played 22 games in his second, third and 25 in his fourth seasons of AFL. Compare JW to nobody, he is who he will become.

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Kinda like Butcher right? Similar age, similar size. I guess Butcher has a shocking attitude and that's why he isn't playing as well.

Tom Lynch? Went in the same draft and can't even get a look in when Reiwoldt is out of action. Shocking attitude.

Oh, and McKernan. Can't forget him. Disgraceful the way he goes about things.

Or how about Scott Gumbleton? He was drafted two years before and he's barely played a game or produced anything. Terrible attitude that boy must have. Number 2 pick? What a waste!

Lachy Henderson? Top ten pick my ass! He's never done anything worth writing home about!

Damn, when you get right down to it, it looks like all of the forwards drafted in the last few years have been shockers. None of them have any work ethic, they all have attitude problems and there's not a scrap of talent in the bunch. What on earth is going through the heads of all those recruiters?

Hurley. Pick 5 2008.

My concern with Watts is that he may not have enough mongrel to ever be an elite key position forward. Merely an observation and I sincerely hope I'm wrong - perhaps we should second him to the Shinboners for a couple of years.


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I agree that there's reasons for playing him as wing & HFF, but my point is that he's not likely to show his CHF attributes playing as a wingman. And while in some games he might make a reasonable fist of playing in a position that's so unfamiliar to him, he'll have others where he'll struggle just to get into it. Imagine, for argument's sake, trying to judge the value of Rivers or Warnock by playing them on a wing.

It's not a problem if the coaches have set him specific goals to achieve in his performance as a wingman, to let him know what he has to do to be considered for the Dees. It wouldn't help if they've just said "look, we don't want you to get crunched, we'll put you on the wing, and if you go well enough, we'll consider you for the seniors". The dilemma is: how well does he need to play on the wing for Casey in order to get picked for the Dees as ... what? Wingman? Or KPF?

I agree with Hannabal - perhaps he should have some games at Casey as KPF, though that would mean that Miller & Newton would have to play somewhere else. Since he's come to MFC, he's yet play a single game at any level at CHF, the position he was drafted to play.

he played at least a half against North Ballarat at either CHF or FF. His leading was fast, but marking ordinary. I agree tho it is time to give him a run in the ones, in akey position forward position. I suspect he will step up in the ones, and given our injury situation upforward at the moment I think the time is nigh.

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Hurley. Pick 5 2008.

My concern with Watts is that he may not have enough mongrel to ever be an elite key position forward. Merely an observation and I sincerely hope I'm wrong - perhaps we should second him to the Shinboners for a couple of years.

That would be Hurley the All Australian Full Back right?

I'm not entirely sure it counts when he was drafted as a fullback and thrown forward, although I admit that that's getting a little technical. Also, aside from one game last year where he impressed the hell out of everyone, has he really done any more than Henderson or Gumbleton? Even if you rate him more highly than any of the others mentioned, that makes one tall forward who is playing regularly out of that year's crop, so I would contend that the point remains valid.

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I started the new post on Jack Watts.

Why?

Because the original post was so large.

It's interesting to interact with fellow Demon tragics in this forum.

Some become agitated, some digest the information and try to 'enhance' it.

Curious.

By the way, my original post, now wound up, was that Jack Watts has a sore back.

No big deal, but happens to be true.

Fluxus dominatis

I don't know about the sore back, but I think the club rightfully is taking a slow approach with Jack to ease him through the season.

I also heard an interview with CC Connolly on the weekend which explained a lot to me. He said Jack is still growing taller. This he said means the bones are soft.

I don't know about 'soft' bones, but, I DO KNOW that when a young man's frame is still growing, the bones end plates get sore from too much load & this is not good to load them up too much when growth is happening. It can do damage to the bones. I learnt about this stuff some years back, but am not still in touch with the latest medical theories, Re this situation.

I do know it makes bugger all difference for us this year if we finish 9th or 12th at the end of the year. So to me there is no rush for him to be put in any risk, or rushing him in for bragging rights is pointless to the extreme.

Anyway there are other players (forwards) we need to screen before the end of the season to see where they are in their careers & or development.

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Soft bones ? Aargh. Why did I click on this thread ?

Jack Watts, now playing in Soft Bones- the movie about a teenage kid who broke down under the expectations of 20,000 nerdy internet heroes.

Or is that the wrong plot for a movie titled Soft Bones? I'm sure there is a line here about performance anxiety and going soft that I should stay well clear of... :unsure::o

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Jack Watts, now playing in Soft Bones- the movie about a teenage kid who broke down under the expectations of 20,000 nerdy internet heroes.

Or is that the wrong plot for a movie titled Soft Bones? I'm sure there is a line here about performance anxiety and going soft that I should stay well clear of... :unsure::o

Leave it...

Posted

Jack Watts, now playing in Soft Bones- the movie about a teenage kid who broke down under the expectations of 20,000 nerdy internet heroes.

Or is that the wrong plot for a movie titled Soft Bones? I'm sure there is a line here about performance anxiety and going soft that I should stay well clear of... :unsure::o

HaHaHa,,,I wondered if someone would bite at that one, :wub: ,,, sorry Jaded. :)

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