Josh Gibson

[Wolfmother 182]

If the reports are true and gibson wants to go to hawthorn, the MFC could get involved.

Hawthorn supporters think pick 9 is too low and many think pick 25 is to high.

Melbourne should offer a player and pick 18 to Hawthorn, and this gets on passed to North for Gibson

We could move up nine positions....

would someone like Tmac do it or would it have to be rivers and maybe hawthorns 2nd rounder

[deeflog 679]

If the reports are true and gibson wants to go to hawthorn, the MFC could get involved.

Hawthorn supporters think pick 9 is too low and many think pick 25 is to high.

Melbourne should offer a player and pick 18 to Hawthorn, and this gets on passed to North for Gibson

We could move up nine positions....

would someone like Tmac do it or would it have to be rivers and maybe hawthorns 2nd rounder

the hawks are not going to want both Gibson and Rivers, so you can rule him out, but i do think Jamar could get this trade scenario done, and if thats all it took i would do it in a heart beat

[Carn dees 108]

Hawks will get him, there offering him a large amount of money.

Plus i love how our back line is panning out.

I wouldnt mind trying our luck with Mitch Thorp.

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

............................................ I wouldnt mindtrying our luck with Mitch Thorp.

I would! I'm aware of nothing Thorpe has done since being an AFL listed player, to warrant bringing him to Melbourne. Would much prefer for us to pick up the best tall available in the draft at pick #18, and to persevere with the development of Stef Martin as a forward / occasional ruckman.

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

Pick 250 is too high. Woeful footballer, he has never played a good game and far too short for a key post. He has nothing going for him. If Hawthorn want to give away pick 9 or 25 then just give them Miller or Richmond could just give them Raines cause I think both are better than him and I don't rate any of them at all.

What is Hawthorn's fasination with useless backmen? Hay, Thornton and now Gibson.

[e25 5]

Hawthorn gets: Jamar & Gibson

North gets: pick 18

MFC gets: Pick 9 & Thorp

... maybe.. don't see it happening, but I think MFC would be clear winners here. North gets screwed.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Pick 250 is too high. Woeful footballer, he has never played a good game and far too short for a key post. He has nothing going for him. If Hawthorn want to give away pick 9 or 25 then just give them Miller or Richmond could just give them Raines cause I think both are better than him and I don't rate any of them at all.

What is Hawthorn's fasination with useless backmen? Hay, Thornton and now Gibson.

I suggest you think before u start slagging people off. I am a close mate of Mitch's. The reason he hasn't played much is injuries. Hip opperation, shoulder and also he broke a bone in his foot. The only worry is his shoulder but the docs think that it is going to be fine. Also he is not too short as the hawks used him in the ruck. You need to get some facts or think before slagging players off.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,851]

but i do think Jamar could get this trade scenario done,

I would've thought Jamar is a priority for the club to re-sign. Not untouchable, but clearly our best ruckman.

[Ryan Dee 140]

Hawks are going after him because he is a good player, simple as that. I think he played the last few games as a defensive midfielder and did very well.

[Its Miller time 6]

Hawthorn gets: Jamar & Gibson

North gets: pick 18

MFC gets: Pick 9 & Thorp

... maybe.. don't see it happening, but I think MFC would be clear winners here. North gets screwed.

This deal isn't too great for us, Jamar is an important player and Thorp has big question marks.

Unless our doctors can have a good look at Thorp and give him the thumbs up i wouldn't consider this. Hawthorn's track record with trading Hay proves they can''t be trusted as well.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I would've thought Jamar is a priority for the club to re-sign. Not untouchable, but clearly our best ruckman.

Correct BBP.

A case of trading a player for trading sake.

[Tatu 416]

don't think North or the Hawks will include MFC in there deal.

[faultydet 7,594]

I suggest you think before u start slagging people off. I am a close mate of Mitch's. The reason he hasn't played much is injuries. Hip opperation, shoulder and also he broke a bone in his foot. The only worry is his shoulder but the docs think that it is going to be fine. Also he is not too short as the hawks used him in the ruck. You need to get some facts or think before slagging players off.

And I think before YOU go slagging off, you should pause, take a breath, and read his post again.

He was referring to Gibson as a spud, not your mate, and he was correct.

[Axis of Bob 11,836]

I think it'd be interesting to see if Hawthorn can do a deal - any deal.

They are the new Collingwood with trading. Just offering money but with no intention of actually coughing up enough to do an equitable trade. They wouldn't even trade a first round pick for Ryan O'Keefe last year!!!

I'm not sure if anyone will want to trade with them in the future.

[H_T 3,049]

I think it'd be interesting to see if Hawthorn can do a deal - any deal.

They are the new Collingwood with trading. Just offering money but with no intention of actually coughing up enough to do an equitable trade. They wouldn't even trade a first round pick for Ryan O'Keefe last year!!!

I'm not sure if anyone will want to trade with them in the future.

Tend to agree AOB. Can't imagine Sydney dealing with them anytime soon.

[Guest hangon007]

I think it'd be interesting to see if Hawthorn can do a deal - any deal.

They are the new Collingwood with trading. Just offering money but with no intention of actually coughing up enough to do an equitable trade. They wouldn't even trade a first round pick for Ryan O'Keefe last year!!!

I'm not sure if anyone will want to trade with them in the future.

Interesting point and IMHO quite valid ... However, people can have short-term memories ... assuming they think there is something in it for themselves.

No doubt about it IMHO think the Hawks are becoming quite under-handed in their dealings.

Must confess its something I always liked about CC never felt he was under-handed ... hence never felt we were either.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Hawthorn gets: Jamar & Gibson

North gets: pick 18

MFC gets: Pick 9 & Thorp

... maybe.. don't see it happening, but I think MFC would be clear winners here. North gets screwed.

Make it Pick 9 & Dowler and I'd be more interested.

[Axis of Bob 11,836]

I'm not sure how short the memories are. After all, how many trades have been done between Port and Collingwood, West Coas and Collingwood, and West Coast and Fremantle recently?

[Guest hangon007]

I'm not sure how short the memories are. After all, how many trades have been done between Port and Collingwood, West Coas and Collingwood, and West Coast and Fremantle recently?

Are you suggesting clubs dont trade with one another ... because the "dont like one another" ?????

Edited September 10, 2009 by hangon007

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Are you suggesting clubs dont trade with one another ... because the "dont like one another" ?????

If you look at trade history, I could be wrong, but there seems to be clubs that deal a fair bit. Port and us... and I think maybe Freo and us? Even if that's right, Freo's been in bed with everyone at some stage...

I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest certain long-term recruiters have friendly relationships with one-another. Probably really look to one another for information some of the time, rather like defence and prosecution lawyers do in courtrooms. Friendly even though on opposing sides.

Likewise long-term coaches may share a bit. Let's say Choco Williams likes the way Neale Daniher coaches, and as a result, takes Walsh from us as he knows he's been coached well...

I am, of course, drawing a long bow here, but I don't think it's a ridiculous assertion.

It goes the other way too. I doubt ANY club would be very willing to trade with Collingwood, as every trade seems to do them more favours than the others club.

[Tony Tea 2,809]

Are you suggesting clubs dont trade with one another ... because the "dont like one another" ?????

That was certainly the alleged situation when Port refused to trade Nick Stephens to Collingwood. It's how Stephens ended up in the PSD and eventually at Carlton, who had the first pick.

[drdrake 3,178]

North Melb must be think Hay, Thompson Hawthorn you got us there. IMO Gibson is worth a third round pick, North will ask for first and get second, Pick 25 which is fair enough.

[H_T 3,049]

Freo's been in bed with everyone at some stage...

I knew it. Had a feeling they were sleeping around. Maybe that's why they always struggle for 'performance' on the road. Someone give'em that 1800 number!

I am, of course, drawing a long bow here, but I don't think it's a ridiculous assertion.

I don't think you're drawing a long bow at all. I'm sure some recruiters/asst.coaches and coaches have long relationships with those opposing teams and as such maybe more inclined to get deals done (at least maybe quicker).

Ie. Steven Icke - Fremantle/Carlton. I'm only speculating with this example. But this may have helped in the R.Warnock deal.

It goes the other way too. I doubt ANY club would be very willing to trade with Collingwood, as every trade seems to do them more favours than the others club.

I have no doubt. Ie. M.Williams/Collingwood (re: N.Stevens)..

[Guest delicious jurrah coffee]

North Melb must be think Hay, Thompson Hawthorn you got us there. IMO Gibson is worth a third round pick, North will ask for first and get second, Pick 25 which is fair enough.

pick 25 is fair enough, but 1million over 3 seasons, hawthorn surely cant be that stupid, rivers is worth 2 gibsons, and he doesnt fall over in the shower.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

pick 25 is fair enough, but 1million over 3 seasons, hawthorn surely cant be that stupid, rivers is worth 2 gibsons, and he doesnt fall over in the shower.

I wouldn't be suprised to see Hawthorn trade picks 9 & 25 to North for Hale & Gibson in a package. North might have to throw in a 3rd round pick also, but that way Hawthorn get their ruckman and a 3rd tall defender they're after. All that will be left for them after that will be to attempt to trade for Maguire.