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My thoughts only. First thing I noticed, is that Christian Salem's body shape is already changing, he looks bigger in the upper body. Daniel Cross ran past Max King giving him plenty about his chuck. Chris Dawes is looking very large and very fit, he dwarfs James Frawley and Mitch Clark. Jack Watts has no chest, his arms look bigger but has not filled out, but some people just can't bulk up. Dawes, Gawn and the Russian running laps. Jack Viney and Clark not doing much at all, standing around with the trainers. My man JKH in the main group again, doesn't seem to be being rested as much as the other rookies. Fitzy jogging laps but looks to be limping. The boys are doing a lot of pummeling from what I've seen, I know this is tackling and strength related but I'd love to know the actual science behind it. Michael Evans is a terrible kick, his technique looks very awkward, no follow through and hits a lot of helicopters. Sam Blease in the main group - great to see. At the risk of sounding obsessed, I was watching JKH in a main group handball drill. The speed and intensity at which he trains every drill is far superior to anyone else out there. It's noticeable when you look at the whole group. Might be first year enthusiasm or hopefully it's habitual, because if he keeps it up you can't help but get REALLY good. I would love to know what his beep test was like at draft camp as he doesn't seem to fatigue. Dom Tyson had no strapping, seemed to be moving freely. Always looks classy It's not just Roosy's wallet that's got larger, I think he has soaked up a bit too much of the Melbourne food culture. If Cross doesn't play a game, (I think he will play them all and be outstanding) he was worth recruiting just for his training standard. To me, Jetta doesn't seem up to it, I don't see any weapons? Max Gawn and his beard are both enormous, gonna be a big year for him, could see him being a lock as our number 1 by year's end. Jayden Hunt is a smooth mover and a lovely kick, but his body looks a while off seniors. Good investment though.

I left at 11am as they appeared to be winding up. 36 in the main group which included Hogan ( my main reason for attending again today). Same rehab as Monday except also included Viney and Spencer. Trengove, Salem and Michie all finished about an hour in. After about 20 minutes of warm ups some intense grappling work, some close in contested work and then some more half and full ground drills focused on ball movement and in game running. It was also great to see our forward group spend a good period of time on goal kicking. I spent most of the session focused on Hogan, Vince and Tyson. Hogan just spends the whole session moving with intent and bouncing around with enthusiasm. Immediately left to go to the Demon Shop for a training jumper with a big number 1 on the back.Vince and Tyson are all silk and would continually kick the ball to where they wanted to draw the leading player. The other two that stood out to me today were the intent of Tapscott and the movement of Hunt. Two comments overheard today stood out to me "you wouldn't know this was the same team as last year. The fun in footys back" and " it's not about territory any more boys it's about getting and keeping the footy" . Again happy to try and answer queries but was probably more focused on my Hogan man crush and was not as broadly attentive as Monday.

I was there from 9.45 to 11.15. Will add to this later as I am writing this on my iphone having lunch. I was very impressed with today's session. It is obvious to me that the Roos game plan is beginning to emerge as a development of his Swans' version, characterised by relentless running offensively and defensively, play on at all costs, hit targets by hand and foot, and run in groups. I think this is a developed version because he realises what a destructive weapon our tall forwards will be, and in order to take advantage of that he needs a mid field which as a group is elite, even if they are not individually. Hence the emphasis on incredibly quick ball movement and hunting in groups of 4 and 5, and play on at all costs. I can't see much stop - start football from the Dees in 2014. All I can say is hooray for that. There were several exercises today which emphasised this definitively. The first was around the grounds which consisted of kick, mark, handball, run, kick, mark etc etc. The difference from last year though was the heavy emphasis on rapid ball movement and relentless running. I must have heard the trainers yelling out a dozen times about faster running, hitting targets, and backing up the man with the ball. The second was when two groups of about a dozen faced each other about 50 meters apart with another player standing in the goal square at either end. Both groups were nominally on the HBF, and would then run flat out in lots of five or six toward the goal square hand-balling then kicking at full pace 50 meters passes to the goal square with their teammates beside them also at full pace. Clearly this was designed to illustrate and practice running and spreading. What impressed me about it was its quality: very fast running, accurate kicking. We have seen variances of this in the past, but in my view not of that intensity, and not of that quality. I should also say there was a very intensive session on tackling towards the end which indicates Roos has also not abandoned the defensive game either. Finally, who exceeded expectations for me in terms of their intensity and quality? Our mid field is not particularly fast, the best being Bleese (although doubts about his endurance), Toumpas, McDonald, Viney, Vince, Hunt, Salem, Watts, Barry. Tyson is not fast, but makes up for it in his size and skills with the ball. At the moment, Trengove is not particularly fast either, but is improving all the time getting back to his first year level. The players who exceeded my expectations today were Barry ( more intense and hard at the ball than I had seen from him); Jetta (seems to have improved his skill levels and intensity); Vince (an intense and committed trainer), Hunt (an outstanding runner and a great kick on the run). At the end of the session, the trainers were giving Jesse Hogan goal kicking practice: six each from both boundary lines and 6 from about 40 meters out in front. I counted 5 out of six from the RH boundary line, 1 out of 6 from the left hand, and 5 out of six from the set shots in front. Quality kicking and better than earlier in the season.

Now the Like button is back, we can really appreciate the good reports.

I also went along to training and I was happy most happy with the number of players training fully. Some of my positives were: * quite a large amount of fans watching the session * the melbourne Victory were training at the same time, so was happy to see their skills/ drills when ours were boring or the players were resting, and before any soccer bashing comments, it is a higly skilled sport and the AFL has used soccer tactics in the past and I saw some drills that can easily be translated over to AFL (and as a footy coahc, i know this will be useful). * in regards to the drills, there was nothing new or ground breaking, but everything involved sharing the ball, running to the next contest and kicking/ running to space. A simple philosophy, but one that all teams should strive for. * Tyson had very little tape on his knee, must be getting more confidence in it. And again, his kicking skills were great. * One of the players who impressed me most was Tapscott. We all know he has a great long kick, but his field kicking and kick to the leads were fantastic today and he was running really well. Hopefully a full pre season will give him his best chance to show his ability. From what I can see, they have him training with the FWDs, which is fine, but I do know that the HFF is a tough position to rack up stats, so it may be tough to shine through unless he gets MID time, which will require some more stamina from him. Personally I have high hopes for him, so hope he shows it. * Cross is so, so, so clean with his hands, will be a very good player for the team and a better example/ on field coach. * Vince will be a pleasure to have kicking to our plethora of forwards (if they get on the ground) * Dawes is a man mountain and is bloody ripped at the moment. An impressive physique and was running quickly and effortlessly, hopefully he gets on the field consistently. * JKH is a jet, I am very impressed with him and cant wait to see his output on the field. He attacks the ball so hard, and he has a really good leap. * Not sure about Hogan having a "mare" as someone stated. I was happy to see his on the lead marking and leap, will be a tough match up if the delivery is good enough. * other than that, nothing too new for specific players but overall it looks like the players are enjoying themselves and are working hard to improve. I heard they are doing some time trials on Friday at 9:00 or so at Princess Park followed by training later at Gosch's Paddock for people interested . Happy to answer any questions. *

If boring tempo footy gives us a few wins this year, then bring it on.

Its hard not to see parallels with the Australian Cricket side (ie the fun being back) in terms of the difference in styles between Arthur and Lehman

The brand of footy Roos is pursuing is similar to the running game that we were doing pretty well for a few games with Bailley before its wheels fell off. hopefully adding a strong defensive side to that game will stop that from happening. Far better this approach than the gollingwood around the boundary approach. I think stats show that last year we lost it out of the middle/clearances and we got absolutely crucified when we turned it overs so if we can increase in both of these areas, plus introduce Hogan, Dawes and Clarke into the forward line with Howe we should win a lot more games, a lot of clubs are going to have a real problem handling all of these players if we can get them out onto the paddock together. I think the club really needs to start to spend a few $$'s on technology, i.e. put together some video clips of training and think seriously about doing webcasts or streaming ALL of the Casey games, while melbourne has been going so poorly in the last couple of years supporters have been desperate to see some hope for the future by watching Casey, last year Hogan was the star attraction. This year we seem to have a few really good up an coming kids that supporters will want to see how they are going/playing, the club needs to feed that interest and passion. Also in broadcasting the game they may pick up some more casey supporters or opposition team supporters who tune in. This would be a better way of marketing MFC and they could obviously chuck in a few plugs for our sponsor or have their emblems flashed up, etc during the broadcast to give something back to our sponsors a good year by Casey will mean better exposure to sponsors and hopefully more sponsors wanting to get onboard. Streaming would obviously assist our interstate and overseas supporters.

Love this comment. I know it's only training but at least it shows where the focus is. No co-incidence that our possession differentials were absolutely abysmal under Neeld's territory-based game plan.

I don't necessarily think that they need to. He was very effective with set shots and if he is comfortable in using that technique let him use it. If a time comes where he starts spraying them then look at it but he kicks the ball nicely and it travels a fair distance. Kicked 39.21 last season and with another pre season under his belt will probably be a better kick if you believe in the Richo theory that forwards miss a few shots from tiredness. Kid has had another AFL pre season so should be fitter than last season

Sorry LDC. Yes meant goal kicking, excitedly writing that up on my ipad on the tram on way home. The two comments one was a player one a trainer.

Thanks for the training report again, Rog.

tasmanlvr from Bigfooty had this to say: Noticed that I made a factual error on Monday arvo re: training report, Roos isn't there and is still in Africa on his family holiday. There's a bloke at training that looks too familiar to Roosy. Anyway, to my update then... Arriving at training, and first on the agenda is the padding on the goalposts. They've been changed to recognise AHG's sponsorship. Tappy walks past us - claims 'I'll kick this with my eyes shut' on the boundary line and proceeds to nail it with a drop punt. Doubt he shut them, do it in a game ay, Tappy. Short kicks the order of the day so far but they've been called in, then proceed to begin by running a lap. Rehab: Kent, Riley, Fitzy, Viney, Dawes, Jamar, Clisby, Gawn. Hogan and Clark not running by the looks of things. Stretches followed. Had a bit of everything - two groups split to run half the ground. Agility tested as well as the basic muscle stretches. Interesting. Also has body work. Dave Misson very vocal. Runthroughs follow. Rehab boys headed off early to the other grass area. There's a fair crowd building up for this one. Would say 100+ people watching on. You know when warm up goes for half an hour (almost) that it's going to be very much fitness based. Time to get the footy out! Short kicks across the ground for starters. Boys come in and split into three. One group on (our) near side wing is playing keepings off with defenders wearing a vest. George Stone taking that drill. The group in the near side forward line working on delivery inside 50 with Miller and McPherson by the looks of things. On our far side, it looks like there's a focus on clearance work from defense? Hard to tell from the opposite side. Miller's drill is altered to allow delivering mids to handball until a whistle where they then kick on demand to a given target. Decision making in the middle looks far less rash than it used to. Easier to deliver when you're up against teammates but if this carries through to gameday I'll be rapt. Goalkicking work in the forward line. Clearance work now in the middle. It's a very tight drill with very little space. Two blokes run to different sides - one collects a handball while the other shadows him and tries to tackle/apply pressure. Group comes in for a chat. Two groups doing ball control. Alternate drills on both sides - one picking up from the ground, one handballs normally. This continues on for a solid five minutes. The boys move on and do the same drill as they did on Monday. The centre square drill with the kick, mark + receive. Howe picks up a somewhat errant kick from Vince on the half volley and without breaking stride hands off to JKH. IM. PRESS. IVE. Max King shanks one. Horrifically. Jack Watts is just carressing the ball through to teammates beautifully. Using the ball very well. Dom Tyson looking good with ball in hand as well. Boys head off again for a break/stretch. Another drill done similar to Monday, pick up/ride bump/handball. Bump is then removed. Miller stops the group beforehand, it's good to know Roosy's methods have passed on to the rest of the group. Dawesy running laps. He is absolutely ripped. New drill that I haven't seen. Four players handball to each other then kick to a main target. Howe and Bail are the main targets nearest to us, Hogan and Tappy on the other side. Now Pedo is on our side. Max King on the other side. Ball skills have dropped a little bit. Few kicks scratchy for forwards, Watts fumbles a handball and drops it. Handball to running player utilised - e.g Hogan takes mark then handballs to running N.Jones. Drill finishes. Started well but skills dropped off afterwards. Full grounder by the looks of things. Ball skills have dropped off. A fair few shanks now. Salem running laps now. Group comes in. Looks like they've shifted to running. Few weird looking runs, don't know what to make of it. Been told Matty Lloyd was here too early on, wearing AIS gear. Hmm. Few left the track early, noticed JKH + Terlich heading off. One thing I like - Jesse Hogan consistently practising his goalkicking. It's one area that looking at juniors/VFL form can be worked on and it's great to see him striving to improve there. I left having very little idea exactly what running drill the Dees were doing (I bet they end up going for another 45 minutes as I write this). Most satisfying thing was that we absolutely SCHOOLED the Victory's training numbers nearby, not sure about other clubs. We have some brilliant supporters.

This subject keeps getting raised here, but from my recollection, in the last couple of seasons under Roos, the Swans were playing some very exciting football that combined tight defensive structures with fast attacking footy.

you wrote all that on an iPad? commitment!

A quick few observations from today. Tyson will be a star, very clean hands and precision kicking. Hogan will live up to the hype. Hunt is a good get as a project, moves well but sometimes to the wrong position. Has some weapons and will develop into a player if he puts the work in. Howe will be a real headache to the opposition this year, looks in great shape and very sharp.

I'm considering donning a brown suit, dusting off the old bicycle and going door to door with a copy of the club charter in my hand.

A team at the bottom is a team at the bottom. Comparing poor performance with poor performance is sort of "duh". Where I think the 2012-2013 Melbourne FC, the current England and the Australians under Micky Arthur can be compared is in their coaching and training approaches. Coaching regimes that are overly directive, defence-first, emphasise conservatism and adhere to strict systems in every aspect from fitness to diet, are being shown to fail. Above all, they lack enjoyment, which is what gets players into the game in the first place. Train hard, but get the enjoyment back into playing the game. Treat players like mature adults with responsibility for their own outcomes. Set standards, but avoid the trivial punishments and 'homework'. Above all, set the first priority to develop confidence rather than fear of failure. The Poms might have been better off with baked beans rather than quinoa salad.

How's that?

I think there are two primary reasons for what we have seen over the last seven years. The first is recruiting. I agree with others that 2007 represented the end of the era of our star players in White, Neitz, Yze, etc. While there may have been some signs of demise during 2006, the fact is we made it to a semi final that year and I do not blame Daniher for 'having a go' at a flag in 2007 rather than start a rebuilding process. Of course 2007 didn't work out due to the drop in form of our stars, injuries and other reasons, but after three years in the finals I think it was fair to try to extract one more good year out of that group. So we then come to the end of 2007 and we embark on a full rebuild of the list, one that is needed and which most supporters agree with. The same position other sides (St Kilda in the early 2000s, Hawthorn and Carlton in the mid 2000s, Collingwood in the late 90s) have been in. The difference between their successes and our failure must to a large extent come down to recruiting. Hodge, Ball, Judd, Riewoldt, Dal Santo, Lewis, Franklin, Roughead, Pendelbury, Murphy - who have we drafted that has between 2008 and 2013 performed to the levels of those players? This has severely affected us in both the Bailey and Neeld regimes – clearly our talent levels have been well below most other clubs during this period. The second reason I think is what happened to the club during 2011, which has then been exacerbated by the dismal failure of the Neeld era. Under Bailey, while we won only 7 games in his first two seasons, you could see the improvement from 2008 to 2010. 2009 was a far more competitive season than 2008 and then 2010 was an enormous improvement on the previous two seasons. We were tracking at what I would consider normal development rates for rebuilding clubs – struggle for a couple of years, show signs of improvement and then start to win some games and push stronger teams in subsequent years. This is where we were at after the 2010 season. Now I'm not for one minute suggesting that Bailey was the man to take us to the next level or that we would continue the upward trend to get in the top 4. Clearly 2011 did show that there were severe deficiencies and certain issues needed to be addressed. 2010 was slightly illusory – I think we were made to look closer than we really were and our free spirited attack only game plan was not sustainable. Nevertheless, what appeared to happen inside the club, with the reported in-fighting and divisions which were allowed to fester by senior management instead of being dealt with at the time, must have had a devastating effect on the players and this (together with our poor form) culminated in 186, a devastating loss for the footy club. I think that the in-fighting and divisions, along with the performance that day, helped to crush the spirit of the senior players (who are so imperative to the performance of the team). Then, instead of rebuilding the spirit and trust and confidence of the playing group, a series of poor decisions – the timing and handling of Bailey's sacking, the extension of Schwab's contract, the appointment of Neeld and his disastrous 18 month tenure – only served to make matters worse. So not only did we not have the cattle due to poor recruiting, but we 'lost' the senior players due to a failure to manage the divisions within the club and then, while seeking to start afresh at the end of 2011, we appointed the wrong man who made a number of terrible decisions and failed to unite and inspire confidence in the playing group which contributed to our 'double dip' bottoming out in 2012 and 2013. At the end of the day success is achieved by having great talent and extracting the most out of that talent. As we have not had the required level of talent (particularly in midfield) and have failed to extract the most out of the talent we do have, it's little wonder why we've been so horrible for much of the past seven years.

He was effective for the most part, but in watching slow-motion replays of Fitzy's kicking action, it proved to be little more than pot luck. There was one point where he kicked a banana goal from a tight angle and it looked like amazing skill. The close up replay showed he actually slightly threw the ball up, rather than dropping it down onto his boot. He needs to sort out his ball drop desperately.

especially the bit where he holds up a premiership Cup.... ...thats a good style

man these training reports give me a hard on. keep em' coming. It's all i've got...

Agreed Hardtack. I thought Roosy's last couple of years at Syd were fast and attacking style footy. Enjoyable to watch.

take her for long walks after a tigers game,get an ordinary pizza after dees game get her a top meal at a cosy restaurant when dees are on telly and winning,get her a cuppa and say i love you when tiges on telly,offer her a foot massage and run her a hot bath be cool every time the dees win pretend your tired and have a headache when the tiges win last resort let her make her own mind up

thought by 2032 tatts would be out and laser treatment scars would be the norm

Will be very interesting to see whether Roosy has evolved his game plan compared to the relentless defensive, holding the footy of the Swans. Got to say the Swans are a lot more appealing to watch since Longmire took over. Roosy will always have the defensive mindset first and foremost. But it will be interesting to see if he evolves it into a more attacking system. It sounds from your post that he is doing that which would be a great relief. Swans used to play possession tempo footy under him which meant holding onto the footy a lot and slowing the tempo down. So if you are seeing play on at all costs it indicates a promising change. I have read elsewhere that he has said modern football is relentless running up and down the field. Hopefully after 3 years of observing all teams while commentating he has a better feel for the evolution of the game by all teams than if he had just been coaching one team for that period.

Thanks for the report. Would "howl kicking" be "goal kicking"? And the overheard comments - who said them? Was it players, coaches or others formally associated with the club or supporters watching on the sidelines? if the former, that makes it a far more interesting observation.

I wish there was a "like" button. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Funny most of the names mentioned as sliders IMO cannot get much worse. eg. Jamar, Pedersen, Bail, Byrnes God deliver me if they are worse than 2013

The climate change thread is on the General Board.

no, ice cream eating laws

It amazes me that this was obviously the mindset. Guarding territory when the opposition have the footy, and trying to influence where they move the footy is one thing. To have it as the overriding strategy where in the minds of the players it is critically important enough to rival simply winning the footy and maintaining possession, is just madness. What was he thinking?!??

Its an interesting question really and not one you can readily and fairly answer. If by Improver one reads , moving up from an established trajectory or level into another higher plain, then i'll leave aside for the moment the likes of the Viney's and Toump's etc as they have established a development curve. A handful of players whom I suspect will leap frog over some and grab a rung above their current standing are : Viv Michie. hasnt really been given a decent paddock or fitness to play in. Now he has both. I think he'll surprise many JKH.. just ave a gut feeling he'll jump out of the gates and assume the tempo of AFL with some aplomb. He's that live wire play ( out of nothing ) maker we've lacked for a while now. Alex Georgio. Might be one of the finds of the draft me thinks Sliders. Theres a truckload here really, but sliding is perhaps a bit of a misnomer.... being found out as inadequate now by comparison to their better team mates is more the thing. Theres probably a dozen...and their all front and centre for the next cull. Some already mentioned in dispatches Id say.

My beard disagrees.

If non boring non tempo footy gives us a few wins this year, then bring it on.

make sure of these things rocknroll 1/starts using both sides of the body in early childhood 2/does yoga and stretches the hammies from birth until draft day 3/teach him to hate every other club{dont tell the mum} 4/is there any height in the family? 5/send him to a private school{fill out entry form now,dont tell wife} 6/dont let him read demonland 7/teach him to handle a tackle and not sook 8/no beard 9/no tatts hope to see him in 18 years good luck

First one was a trainer the second one was a player to another two players.

Tally so far 3 x mates kids all now demons for life 2 x cousins from the UK departed with scarves and traning singlets Currently working on a single mate and will give him a membership scarf and take him along to0 a couple of games this year.

Mine is a few days in the brewing, Wifey is about to pop with the a little demon! Hopefully the kid is tall good overhead and will end up playing CHF for the dees circa 2035

not just north america od, europe doing it tough too global warming?

Now as the author does note and there are many varied reasons for the death rate on that list but the ages of some of these guys is ridiculously young and some are directly related to the use. http://prowrestling.about.com/od/whatsrealwhatsfake/a/wrestlersdeaths.htm Also this http://prowrestling.about.com/b/2009/01/03/chairman-waxman-releases-letter-regarding-illegal-steroid-use-in-professional-wrestling.htm

On the other hand, How would you defend against it? Who would you send your number one shut down defender to? Who would you try and run off? Three big capable dudes, all can run, all can kick a sausage, and a jumping jack looking for a launching pad. I cant wait to see how it works out.

A few observations from training: Trengove definitely looks fit again and was moving well, Mitch Clark still has problems with his left leg and is not putting weight on it when walking, Dawes was in a foul mood for some reason and refused to acknowledge the supporters, Jay Kennedy Harris is electric and classy, Viv Michie is fit and ready to go and appears to relish a bit of competition, Bernie Vince was keeping Watts honest in the running, Sam Blease is a marvellous bloke and will prove his doubters wrong (he actually remembered every detail of the conversation we had with him before Christmas and came over to shake our hands and thank us for turning up to training), Roos definitely wasn't at training, Aidan Riley will be a good addition for us when fully fit, Christian Salem is extremely enthusiastic and will be great when he gets a game. I think that Jimmy Toumpas looks ready to blossom and appears to have settled in well to training this year, Garland and McDonald look very fit, Watts is starting to show some leadership at training actually talking through part of a drill to the whole squad, James Harmes looks sharp and is my tip for an upgrade to the main list in 2015.

I've heard this song a few times on Triple J recently. Took me a while to track down the artist and song, it's one of the Unearthed artists. I don't think she's released an album yet, just a couple of singles. I can't get enough of it. Jack Jack 5.8

Can someone please tell me how much we won by? I just got back from booking airfares and tickets to NY for the Superbowl.

Grats to the winners! I must say I predicted the Eagles to rise this year (puffs out chest) Looking forward to the play offs, When's the draft

Guys, thanks very much for comp and the weekly discussion. I've really enjoyed it. Go Chiefs.

And congratulations are in order for our joint winners in the tipping comp. Here's the final points tally ... 9 - Strafford, cowboy from hell (joint winners) 7 - pantaloons, Macca 5 - Gorgoroth 1 - DemonDave 0 - 45HG, Norm Smith's Curse, Arrow, bananas Well done to 'cowboy from hell' and 'Strafford' 'cfh' led from the start and then 'Strafford' slowly but surely chased him down. Level going into the last round, both earned 3 points to take the prize - worthy winners of the inaugural competition! Well played to all the participants ... it's been a bit of fun and rather challenging (to say the least) We might tweak it a bit if we do it all again next year. Open to suggestions. Had a brief discussion with 'cowboy from hell' about a playoffs comp. Tip the winners of all the games (1 point each) with 3 points for the SuperBowl. Fairly basic and if you're interested, give a shout out. Or just post your tips. But for now, winners are grinners! Congrats Strafford. A big Thanks to Macca for running this ship. All the game times and channel information are also appreciated by all. I don't check for times and channels anywhere else now so you better not retire from here anytime soon Macca. I would also like to take this time to thank a few people for my joint win. Thanks to all tippers, Adrian Peterson, Viking beer (seriously good drop if you want to try a new beer) You Tube for showing games where Minnesota actually win, Matt Cassel for showing we don't have a QB, Josh Freeman for all your efforts and lastly the Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jags, Redskins and Bills/Raiders for making it easy to at least get one tip correct.

Thanks Macca and congrats to CFH. I would just like to thank my manicurist, as without her my hands would not have been in any condition to type in my tips. I don't need to name her, she knows who she is. How about those Browns. Dumped another head coach. The factory of sadness continues on it's not so merry way.