Coach calls for huge fines to stamp out AFL players stagi...

Dockers coach Justin Longmuir says the AFL should issue fines of up to $10,000 to players for staging.

How about instead the AFL first clamps down on pushing and shoving by players trying to show how tough they are and to trying to intimidate oppos. It has nothing to do with actually playing footy. Show how tough you are by going in hard for the ball rather than pushing and jumper punching off the ball. Or showing how poor a sport you are by shoving the oppo who just gave away a free kick to you to mock them.

I know this will not be popular with some. Doubtless in the past some thought punching someone in the head off the ball was 'just part of the game'.

There was another one that was just as bad yesterday in the Hawthorn game.

Worpel went down like a bag from a tummy tap...

Nick Daicos is a serial-stager.

It's pretty simple isn't it @sue: don't make contact with opposition players when the ball is more than 5 m away and not in play.

This is bang on the money. I'm sick and tired of all the BS niggle that's crept into the game. With the AFL going public saying the first free to Rayner was wrong they've condoned elbows in the back 200 metres off the ball. It isn't part of the game, and isn't what I want to see when I watch. I want to see quality players - playing football.

Some players are taking every opportunity when the whistle goes to sneak in a push in the back. Daicos even goes for a headlock when he's tackled legitimately. This needs to be stopped, but it seems the umpires have lost control, and now the AFL is ok with it.

37 minutes ago, sue said:

Coach calls for huge fines to stamp out AFL players stagi...

Dockers coach Justin Longmuir says the AFL should issue fines of up to $10,000 to players for staging.

How about instead the AFL first clamps down on pushing and shoving by players trying to show how tough they are and to trying to intimidate oppos. It has nothing to do with actually playing footy. Show how tough you are by going in hard for the ball rather than pushing and jumper punching off the ball. Or showing how poor a sport you are by shoving the oppo who just gave away a free kick to you to mock them.

I know this will not be popular with some. Doubtless in the past some thought punching someone in the head off the ball was 'just part of the game'.

Ripper post. So embarrassing seeing the guys think they are so tough pushing and mocking opposition after winning a free kick. Like school kids seriously. Now happening at junior level regularly which is so sad to see. Hate it!!!!

20 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Nick Daicos is a serial-stager.

He’s soft as butter.

Also I think the game is becoming tag football and going to water.

Might as well give everyone bubble wrap in case they get a booboo.

Agree on this one. My wife is american, she pointed out the false toughess to me years ago. What other sport allows such rubbish.

Took me a few years but have to say wifey is right. Adds nothing to the game.

Also, The staging the getting into the face of the player needs to be stopped. Fine them. Make them miss weeks.The game is turning into soccer.

Right now the only incentive is to flop, nothing to lose and everything to gain. Wouldn't do it if you couldn't play next week.

A blanket "Enough of this mickey mouse [censored]" rule would help.

Both for the stupid macho niggles and the embarrassing smug flops.

Childish at best, but both sides of the equation can end up being dangerous.

1 hour ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

He’s soft as butter.

Also I think the game is becoming tag football and going to water.

Might as well give everyone bubble wrap in case they get a booboo.

1 hour ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

He’s soft as butter.

Also I think the game is becoming tag football and going to water.

Might as well give everyone bubble wrap in case they get a booboo.

Yeah righto as much as l hate Collingwood, Daicos isn’t soft

It makes me sick how the media dribble at his every possession, but he’s a gun & what we’d give to have him him at the MFC

I hate this rubbish, he’s s a bloody good footballer & is lucky that he plays for the most protected team in the AFL

2 minutes ago, Billy said:

Yeah righto as much as l hate Collingwood, Daicos isn’t soft

It makes me sick how the media dribble at his every possession, but he’s a gun & what we’d give to have him him at the MFC

I hate this rubbish, he’s s a bloody good footballer & is lucky that he plays for the most protected team in the AFL

He flops whenever someone looks at him let alone touches him. Thats his only fault.

He’s a jet otherwise.

We can all thank Selwood we started all this staging for head high frees years ago. He thought he was so smart doing it, unfortunately it’s become such a blight on the game.

Also jumper punches, flopping all need to be stamped down on big time. 1 official warning then start with the fines . On 5th offence in any one season, move to 1 game suspension.

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39 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

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2 hours ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

He flops whenever someone looks at him let alone touches him. Thats his only fault.

He’s a jet otherwise.

I have seen none better throwing himself on the boundary line and getting a free….. but agree, he is a gifted footballer

6 minutes ago, Wodja said:

I have seen none better throwing himself on the boundary line and getting a free….. but agree, he is a gifted footballer

Disgusting isn’t it. That’s the modern game. Ginnovan led that charge.

2 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

We can all thank Selwood we started all this staging for head high frees years ago. He thought he was so smart doing it, unfortunately it’s become such a blight on the game.

Also jumper punches, flopping all need to be stamped down on big time. 1 official warning then start with the fines . On 5th offence in any one season, move to 1 game suspension.

Jumper punches, jabs to guts would stop immediately if suspensions, not fines, happened every time and for every club (even the protected darlings of the MRO and the tribunal chairman).

Jabs off the ball again (like Max suffers every game) need at least a free every time, and suspensions, not fines, if head high

Heads down into opponents need to be penalised every time - no rewards with free kicks ever. That would stop immediately but again only if applied every time and every club.

I dislike the macho, pushing a player (usually on the ground) after a holding the ball is given. I would reverse the decision, it's so arrogant and unnecessary.

My greatest hatred in the game, is when a player wins a free kick, for holding the ball for example, they push the player on the ground. They should reverse the free kick for poor sportsmanship.

9 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

I dislike the macho, pushing a player (usually on the ground) after a holding the ball is given. I would reverse the decision, it's so arrogant and unnecessary.

1 hour ago, SPC said:

My greatest hatred in the game, is when a player wins a free kick, for holding the ball for example, they push the player on the ground. They should reverse the free kick for poor sportsmanship.

Funny enough when i was a junior during the late 80s early/mid 90s they did reverse free kicks especially in u14s and 16s

The group chat turned on me when I said i didn't mind the fact the second Rayner free kick was given.
Yes he went down softly, but as others have said hate the fake macho tough guy thing that is in our game.
Also if you're an AFL player and your teammate has just given away a silly soft/free kick leading to a goal, maybe don't come in from distance and unnecessarily bump into a opposition player in front of the umpire who gave away the initial free kick.

The umpires were right.

Those are the rules of the game.

It is not for the AFL to decide after the event that the level of force was insufficient.

It was deliberate, and there is NO mention of force in any rule.

Just apply the rules like the umpires did in this case, and the faux masculinity will disappear.

More significantly, the commentators, immediately said the free was wrong, they love the violence on and off the ball.

it does seem that some teams and players can use vigour and others cant.

I suspect there's a future where the AFL gets sued by a player who receives an off-the-ball push which results in an injury which subsequently impacts the victim's capacity to earn. For example, earlier this year Essendon's Nick Martin was unnecessarily pushed over the boundary line and tore his ACL either because he collided with the fence or twisted his knee while trying to avoid the collision. While I assume he'll continue to be paid under his current contract, if his injury restricts his capabilities and therefore the value of his next contract, an unnecessary act will have cost him money.

I'm with the general sentiment. All the pushing and shoving is c..p. And the second free that Rayner got should have been paid against the Geelong player for sheer stupidity, if nothing else - to come in straight after a free/goal for pushing, and push HARDER, right in front of the umpire: what an [censored]!!

But generally ducking like Sellwood, flopping and the jumper punches - they are all a blot on the game . American football does not tolerate that for a second