The Horse has bolted

I’m oscillating between:

‘We need to be brave and get a fresh new coach’

and

‘We need to choose conservatively, are at a crossroads as a club and the new coach is going to have to deal with a lot more issues than just an underperforming team’

I think we need experience right now??

Not excited by a retread coach most of whom will be happy to collect $1.2M a year for 3-4 years and leave us mid table.

On the other hand it will calm the membership exodus and give us a short term media bump.

As Dickens wrote in David Copperfield .... Tell MFC that Bucks is willing....

Hopefully I'm surprised but MFCSS runs deep in most of us

thats unfortunate ...

cmon down danny daly

.. plz

Just appoint Bucks and let’s get going now!

I didn't like longmire anyway...

Please not Buckley. He took over a premiership team and took them slowly but surely downhill.

I believe Longmire would have sounded it out but ultimately told we were on a different horse. Didn’t rule it out early in the week but has now. Would only tarnish his reputation to put his hand up and not get it.

Feeling Buckley has been sounded out quite a while back.

Adam Simpson spoke the most sense on this topic. You don’t want a coach that needs to be convinced to join your club (Longmire). You want someone who is dog hungry to prove themselves.

Clarkson and to a degree Lyon needed convincing and ultimately it was the coin that got them over the line.

Coaching is a tough gig, you need the desire to do the role justice

Why has Buckley been anointed without any semblance of a process

there are other options out there besides him

this hiring committee better not just be optics

21 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Please not Buckley. He took over a premiership team and took them slowly but surely downhill.

Huh? They were one kick away from a premiership 6 years into his tenure.

These times bring out some of the stupidest comments on Demonland.

16 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

I believe Longmire would have sounded it out but ultimately told we were on a different horse. Didn’t rule it out early in the week but has now. Would only tarnish his reputation to put his hand up and not get it.

Feeling Buckley has been sounded out quite a while back.

Doubtful on Longmire, if you watched 360 this week you would have seen the club would need to pitch to him not that other way round, Longmire was quite happy to be not coaching.

I think Bucks is just desperate to coach again to rehabilitate his image after how it all ended at pies and the success they had since. Dee’s suit those needs as they could potentially bounce quickly if everything went right which is dangerous as he would be coaching for himself and not the club

It literally doesn’t matter who the club picks or what process they go through, the same whiney [censored] on this site will complain and moan and tell us all how bad of a decision we made, how much this club is a shambles and how unhappy they are.

Some people just love the sound of their own miserable voice.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Keeping his powder dry for when Carlton inevitably sack Voss midway through next season.

4 hours ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Buck's wants a premiership, and whilst the Tassie gig has its own list of unique perks and positives, even he knows being head coach at a time where the Devils are ready to challenge is unlikely.

I mentioned it earlier in the year as countless others have. We've been in contact with him since the start of the season, a lot of prep has already gone into this. And letting go of Goodwin three weeks to go before the end of the season gives us the best chance of getting a settled coaching group together, RETAINING certain players and hitting the trade and draft period knowing exactly what we're going to do from a list strategy POV.

I think the second point has been missed a lot around here with those who think someone like Buckley is the wrong choice.

I bet my bottom dollar that part of why we're keen on Buckley is to retain Petracca as well as get a spike in performance from our senior core group who will be more inspired and motivated by an aura like Bucks. As well as the assistants that will be brought along.

Supporters forget how important this is.

It's happening, get on-board and leave your silly Melbourne-bias anti Collingwood nonsense behind. Buckley is the one.

Who exactly has been in contact with Bucks ? Our Board, CEO in name - but still working on other things?

The club better have been talking with bucks otherwise it is a shambles.

The club has let two of the best rated assistants go in the past couple of years to top jobs and hasn't managed them well. IP leakage hurt Simon, but more importantly, none of them were kept on side for potential succession plans.

Didn't the club learn from Bailey/Neeld/Roos that a succession plan is a must? But now it is down to backroom deals and cloaks and daggers?

The good thing about Bucks is that he will be a sheedy figurehead type and take up the slack of the CEO / president, who can't be found or have the guts to do the job properly.

9 minutes ago, RickyJ45 said:

Who exactly has been in contact with Bucks ? Our Board, CEO in name - but still working on other things?

The club better have been talking with bucks otherwise it is a shambles.

The club has let two of the best rated assistants go in the past couple of years to top jobs and hasn't managed them well. IP leakage hurt Simon, but more importantly, none of them were kept on side for potential succession plans.

Didn't the club learn from Bailey/Neeld/Roos that a succession plan is a must? But now it is down to backroom deals and cloaks and daggers?

The good thing about Bucks is that he will be a sheedy figurehead type and take up the slack of the CEO / president, who can't be found or have the guts to do the job properly.

I appreciate your anxiety - “backroom deals??” — all appointments in footy are handled discreetly for obvious reasons. Public blow-by-blow updates might make fans feel included, but they also risk damaging relationships and negotiations, just like any organisation on this earth.

Critique is fine, but calling the process a shambles without knowing the internal detail isn’t fair on the people doing the work — and it underestimates how much is happening behind the scenes.

Edited Saturday at 05:552 days by Engorged Onion

55 minutes ago, TheoX said:

Please not Buckley. He took over a premiership team and took them slowly but surely downhill.

Except that time he took them to a prelim and was 30 seconds away from being a premiership coach..

But let's not mention that hey..

42 minutes ago, BDA said:

Why has Buckley been anointed without any semblance of a process

there are other options out there besides him

this hiring committee better not just be optics

You're assuming there's been no semblance of a process.

Buckley would not have been the only coach we spoke to throughout the year.

I like the idea of Buckley but he needs support as a people manager. He is a smart football tactician but has the warmth and likeability of a house brick. One of those mission brown ones from the 70s. Knowing some in the industry I fear that this has been the barrier for him in the past.

We will need a Craig McCrae type assistant to build the bridge between process and people.

1 hour ago, SPC said:

Adam Simpson spoke the most sense on this topic. You don’t want a coach that needs to be convinced to join your club (Longmire). You want someone who is dog hungry to prove themselves.

Clarkson and to a degree Lyon needed convincing and ultimately it was the coin that got them over the line.

Coaching is a tough gig, you need the desire to do the role justice

This is why I have warmed to Bucks. I think he did alot right at Collingwood, handled himself with grace in dealing with Malthouses trlantrums and when he stepped down as Senior Coach, has a presence about him and is great with the media, has had enough time out of the game to be refreshed, and is hungry to win a Premiership having not yet done so as a player or coach.

1 hour ago, BDA said:

Why has Buckley been anointed without any semblance of a process

there are other options out there besides him

this hiring committee better not just be optics

he hasn't at this stage

it's all media speculation

The few people I know in the industry have said the club has Bucks in its sights.

Caro's article in The Rage today is ridiculously biased

I'm genuinely surprised by the amount of support for Buckley 2.0 here.

I don't have an insight into the inner sanctum of the club, but if there have been cultural issues Buckley's record at Collingwood doesn't suggest to me he's the best choice.

I'd prefer the club to steer clear of veteran coaches here, the game evolves and none of the clubs which have got a second time coach in recent times have moved the needle much on performance. We're paying out Goodwin so the price tag of a former senior coach is also going to come at the expense of other aspects of the football program.

1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Huh? They were one kick away from a premiership 6 years into his tenure.

These times bring out some of the stupidest comments on Demonland.

Ross Lyon was one bounce of the ball from a premiership and I wouldn’t have him. Goodwin is a better prospect than Buckley. He has one in the bag.