2 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Anything on the players' socials?

Yes, a few.

2 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Anything on the players' socials?

Yes, lots on insta. Lot of player sharing the MFC farewell post, separate things from Max, Riv and Hibbo

I believe this is the right decision but as usual the club has managed this pretty ordinary. This decision either should have been done after the St Kilda game or let him coach out the season.

Goodwin delivered a premiership and some moments which will never be forgotten. I wish him well.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes, a few.

More interesting to see who doesn't post / say anything.

Edit: I imagine Melksham is taking it the hardest. He's been coached by Goody since he was 17! Wow

Edited Tuesday at 05:585 days by Jaded No More

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Goody's relationship with our senior players is very special and was both a positive and a negative thing in the end.

Also lol at this drive by around the Casey facilities.

So special, they have won 8 games in the past 27.....

Just now, jnrmac said:

So special, they have won 8 games in the past 27.....

How is that at all related to what I said?

He has a great personal relationship with our senior players and their families, and he is a key reason Kosi didn't walk out the door 3 years into his career.

You can be unhappy with on field performances and still give credit where it is due.

I swear this place is a nightmare.

32 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I think the 'net trend' is not enough. We will be lucky to get 8 wins this year, after an 11 win season last year. It's just not a good enough result, because rightly or wrongly, the club believes our list should be competing in finals.

Sacking a coach is never not reactionary. Sacking Dean Bailey was reactionary, we were 9th at the time we lost to Geelong and very much trending upwards with a bog ordinary list.
Goodwin has not just had 2 very poor seasons, especially this year off the back of minimal injuries, but he was at the helm of some pretty poor off field issues with our list since 2023.

Now of course it's never just the coach who is at fault, but sadly senior coaches always take the fall. To be fair we sacked our CEO first, which was the right decision.

I am sad to see Goody go, and I have no idea if the decision is right. I don't think anyone really does. Only time will tell us.

Mark Neeld is the only coach I think everyone universally rejoiced to see go. I still remember how conflicted I was about Daniher leaving.

To be clear, I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with sacking Goody, but I don't like the timing or the way it was handled. But we've covered this now.

Edited Tuesday at 06:065 days by Adam The God

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

How is that at all related to what I said?

He has a great personal relationship with our senior players and their families, and he is a key reason Kosi didn't walk out the door 3 years into his career.

You can be unhappy with on field performances and still give credit where it is due.

I swear this place is a nightmare.

This is such an underrated comment. Despite all the rumors and innuendo, the bloke created an atmosphere that made a young, shy indigenous kid flourish and want to stay in. Cannot thank Goody enough for delivering that and a flag, which for most of my life was all I wanted to see. I saw it and am so grateful

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

To be clear, I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with sacking Goody, but I don't like the timing or the way it was handled. But we've covered this now.

I agree that the way it was handled from a comms point of view was terrible, but what else is new there.

I don't know how it was handled with Goody so I can't comment, but for this story to leak, be broken by [censored] Tom Morris and then we hear nothing from the club for hours and hours was absolutely hot garbage.

I would suggest a sackable offense, but hard to sack people when those in charge are not really in charge, they're just warming seats.

Sad day for the MFC but it eventually happens to every coach and I thought if not this year, then most likely next.

A good chance for some change in the list and the FD.

Goody will always be a Melbourne legend.

2 hours ago, Piano lifter not player said:

Time for a new voice and time for a new set of eyes - I don't think Goody was seeing what everyone else could see, right up until his final words in the media conference.

And that, is a damning indictment of his refusal to change and adapt. The puzzling thing though was the timing. SURELY, after the St. Kilda debacle he had to go? Why wait the extra week?? Yes professional at press conference and good luck to him, but we now can move forward.

2 hours ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

I can’t recall since I was a fair bit younger.

How long will it take for the spot of Goodie to be filled?

Is there a rough timeline the club has discussed or stated in the press conference?

You sound young.

I don't like that.

4 hours ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

Think we will find out a lot about how the players feel about the situation on Sunday.

Would nice for them to dig in and make it competitive, but I could see a 10+ goal loss.

Sacking your coach, who is known to be close with many of the players, with 3 games left in the season after a big win is just bizarre.

There is no coach currently available that is so good that it is worth alienating our playing group and embarrassing our only living premiership coach.

They embarrassed him the week before.

Don’t this is going to upset the playing group, they had plenty of chances to show they were still with him and never did.

Time was up. You cant keep saying the wheel will turn for best part of two seasons and not have the wheel turn.

Thanks for all your contributions to the football club, you had more challenges then most coaches have to deal with.

Now move on Griffiths, Lamb, Richo, Bassett and Chunk.

1 minute ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

They embarrassed him the week before.

Don’t this is going to upset the playing group, they had plenty of chances to show they were still with him and never did.

This.

I really don't want to hear from the players right now and how much they loved him. On at least 6 occasions this year they have literally mailed in effort and put him in a terrible spot.

I was still undecided on whether Goodwin should have stayed or not but the playing group has fallen well short of their end of the bargain.

4 hours ago, praha said:

He cannot surely be that dense. He must have surely seen the writing on the wall after the Saints loss. There was no coming back from that.

Spot on Praha. Before the Saints game I was content in the feeling that he would probably moved on at seasons end. But after that game and his comment of there were some good things in the last 4 minutes I thought Simon you don't understand. There was nothing good in those last 4 minutes and even if there was it was an idiotic thing to say. I believe the decision was made at the board meeting the day after that game. As is often the case it is way easier to replace a coach than 10 under performing players.

I wasn't in the sack Goodwin camp until very recently. The stark difference between the high and low performance of the team, and then the inability to tactically respond to momentum swings in games was infuriating to watch, StK the clincher (how many here could see dramas 5 mins into the last...?) then the dribble about growing and learning was getting too much.

Green taking the hit was important for the club more broadly - he's given a lot of his personal capital in his interim capacity. It's clear air now for incoming President and CEO.

1 hour ago, The Trunk said:

The most telling comment Goody made in his presser was he came to the club because of Peter Jackson and the then football department including Todd Viney and Josh Mahoney. Let’s not forget Jason Taylor too. These guys ( and Paul Roos) established the platform for Goody to achieve what only 3 other Melbourne coaches have achieved. Since the departure of Jackson,Mahoney and Todd Goody has had the “support” of Pert, his good mate Richo and Tim Lamb. Goodwin can coach his record proves that he should not be held entirely responsible for results since 2021. In my nearly 50 years of being a financial member I was never more excited than when Peter Jackson was running the club. Now… well I Fear it is back to mediocrity which unfortunately is what we do well.

Thank you Simon I look forward to seeing which club is lucky enough to get your services going forward.I hope wherever you land you will have a United Board a wise CEO with football nous, a talented football department and a first class training base ….,none of which you have had at Melbourne recently (or ever with the training base).

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Another was the fact he will not miss driving to Casey. This is a big concern for us in obtaining a new coach and players. Our new home has to be announced soon or again we will be left with the dregs as far as recruiting is concerned.

So do you reckon Steven Smith got to enjoy his European holiday in the end?

37 minutes ago, layzie said:

This.

I really don't want to hear from the players right now and how much they loved him. On at least 6 occasions this year they have literally mailed in effort and put him in a terrible spot.

I was still undecided on whether Goodwin should have stayed or not but the playing group has fallen well short of their end of the bargain.

This.

41 minutes ago, layzie said:

This.

I really don't want to hear from the players right now and how much they loved him. On at least 6 occasions this year they have literally mailed in effort and put him in a terrible spot.

I was still undecided on whether Goodwin should have stayed or not but the playing group has fallen well short of their end of the bargain.

100%

The reports that they were “embarrassed” and “blindsided” by the decision only reinforces to me why the change needed to be made

I appreciate many of them will be disappointed by the news given how close they are to Goody, but if they couldn’t see this coming despite our W/L of the last two years - not to mention all of the off field noise - then it’s clear that a new voice was needed

I think the next person to be sacked is me based off the amount of time I spent on the forum today.

So Melb like the way it was handled… with interim President & CEO who should have been present! Were the new replacements involved in the decision?? We appear so unstable and issues run deeper than just Goodwin though his results were poor and time was up, who’s been responsible for the culture & player behaviour and the handling along with the Trac issues, the footy set should not be spared! Sad day and whilst may be warranted as hear g goody say ignore the score board & don’t get hung up on the results is about clubs on a full rebuild not one that he thinks can win another flag!

Thanks for the flag Goody!

To new President & CEO you have a big job ahead to get the right coach & fix the footy dept issues, keep any talent from requesting a trade, culture issues & that damn home base for once and for all

Edited Tuesday at 07:284 days by Demonsone

Just now, roy11 said:

I think the next person to be sacked is me based off the amount of time I spent on the forum today.

I got [censored] all work done today.

Thanks Goody...

Surprising (understatement!) news. I haven't seen any commentators saying "I saw this coming", quite the reverse, so pretty clear that there's been a bit going on behind the scenes. Quite what that might entail we don't know and may never know, but seeing everyone is having their 2 cents, here's mine:

- getting rid of Goodwin is not in itself a fix for anything. Whatever the problems are, they still have to be addressed, presumably by the incoming coach and FD.

- Steven Smith is going to be a very different kind of president to what we've had of late. He's obviously very proactive, and isn't prepared to accept second best, which is going to have ramifications right through the club from the top down. (This predicated on commentaries around the place that Smith was very much behind this.)

- It looks like this has been in the works for a while — see earlier reports of an approach to Luke Beveridge. Perhaps Smith wasn’t as willing to accept last year’s review as Roffey and Pert. So why now when they could’ve left Goodwin in place for two more rounds then staged a smoother exit? Why the urgency? Is there (new) info around re other coaches (Voss/Carlton?) and has a race for a coaching candidate forced our hand? You don't make these kinds of decisions without a pretty good idea of what you want as an outcome, presumably there are names.

- The board has access to info we don’t — commercial concerns might have played a big role. Membership and sponsorship pressures? Replacing the coach may be seen as a short-term fix, a way to reset the optics and buy some clean air, regardless of results.

- As above, but more consequential, there may have started to be a certain shall we say resistance to coming to Melbourne from players and e.g. assistants and FD staff. Everyone acknowledges the holes in our list, but if player managers are starting to say to Tim Lamb that "Player X is looking for a new club but doesn't want to come to Melbourne" that might have set off a few alarm bells. Perhaps same discourse internally: McVee contract hold-up? (but who knows ...)

- If there is now a perception that the FD needs a reset, it might as well start at the top. Regardless of who comes in, Troy Chaplin now has the "assistant coach who takes over as interim head coach" kiss of death, and will almost certainly be leaving at the end of the season, so that's one gone. But he won't be alone. Alan Richardson will surely follow, though as with Goodwin, will be catastrophic for our soft cap as he's also contracted for 2026. (Rumours that we're looking at Adam Simpson as head of football?)

- But I think my biggest take-away in all this has little to do with Goodwin's capabilities as a coach (as Brad Green acknowledged), but centres on the relationship between Goodwin and the players. A kind of a reverse "the coach has lost the players" where the tail is now wagging the dog. That in an attempt to address issues within the playing group, we've gone too far the other way.. As in my point above, this may be coming from a new no-nonsense President putting his foot down. Expect to see at least some collateral damage in the playing group.

Across all that, I really wonder if we'd be here if it wasn't for losing Angus Brayshaw. He was our future captain, the glue that held the team together and as a player, someone who led from the front. Only one player, but the team has been out of kilter on-field and off ever since he was carried off the field at the start of our 2023 finals campaign.

Caveat: All of the above could be completely wrong, I don't know the full story. But none of us do.

PS. Sorry this got so long. Feel free to ignore.

Edited Tuesday at 07:304 days by bing181