16 hours ago, sue said:

I rarely disagree with much you say Binman, but as I've argued, the best person to tell a young bloke he is being subbed is the welfare office since he should know all about that players's circumstances and how to best deliver the news.

Do we really need a welfare officer to take a team member off to help the team be a better team and get a better team result.

34 minutes ago, BDA said:

A lot of shooting the messenger in this thread

we might not like what she's saying but none of it should be news to anyone.

yeah, i don't read this thread like that at all

i think there's a lot of 'yeah, and..?'

there's not much 'new' news in here; just a long list - and it's pretty long - of issues

the runner / welfare officer being a problem is a bloody long bow to draw tho

44 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Do we really need a welfare officer to take a team member off to help the team be a better team and get a better team result.

No we don't. But if we happen to have a welfare officer who can run and knows a bit about footy, why not. May even save a salary.

On 02/08/2025 at 08:41, Roger Mellie said:

I used to think that too, but in the media jostling and scrabbling for AFL headlines, she's slipped.

Had she done her research, she would have known Conca has been a runner since he started at the club (replacing Burns in the same role).

Perhaps she could have also mentioned that Guerra's prior commitment to organising a world conference actually might be significant and that to ditch that for his new role might also be showing a lack of leadership.

Green has always maintained he is President for the short term and that it is particularly difficult juggling that with a young family and a business. If Green was 'bristling,' I doubt it was about that.

Other than that, I agree with the leadership questions but good journos deal in facts rather than framing to suit their narrative.

This.

Wilson has built a career on blurring the line between fact and opinion. As usual, the writing is clunky — several sentences are difficult to follow — and the piece isn’t without its fair share of reductio ad absurdum and non sequiturs. The so-called facts are distorted, twisted, and tortured to fit the narrative.

5 hours ago, DeeZone said:

PS( I wonder what Caro is going to say about that rabble of a club that didn’t win a single quarter of footy and got beaten by 84 points yesterday, I mean Richmond of course 167 points between our two clubs yesterday).

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No mate, the problem is the people who think they have a birthright to run the club and have proven again and again how incompetent they are. Seems to be a common thread through the history of the club, they look down their nose at those in the "cheap seats" while being unable to run a successful footy club.

Could not agree more. Back in 2013 (?) we had about a dozen people on the board and were an absolute basket case on and off the field. I believe the Hawks had about 4 on the board and look how they were going.

Our club does have a history of people at the top who are happy being on the board for their own ego, rather than for the fans themselves.

Season 2025 is a bust on field for me but the off season broom being swept through two old Melbourne clubs will be interesting ... big brooms needed 😁

39 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How could the Board possibly not agree a start date with Guerra before appointing him. Then be surprised it wouldn't be until September ...

Incompetence, right up there with failing to monitor the implementation of last year's FD review!

Edited August 3Aug 3 by Lucifers Hero

41 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

How could the Board possibly not agree a start date with Guerra before appointing him. Then be surprised it wouldn't be until September ...

Incompetence, right up there with failing to monitor the implementation of last year's FD review!

And the majority of members voted for the status quo. 🤦

49 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

How could the Board possibly not agree a start date with Guerra before appointing him. Then be surprised it wouldn't be until September ...

Incompetence, right up there with failing to monitor the implementation of last year's FD review!

Yep..

Quite bizarre how the whole situation has been handled.

Its hard enough witnessing what's happened on field for the last two years but off field has been just as worse.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yep..

Quite bizarre how the whole situation has been handled.

Its hard enough witnessing what's happened on field for the last two years but off field has been just as worse.

It's become increasingly clear to me that Goody and the FD won a flag in spite of the horrendous off field management of the club.

Remembering of course that we changed presidents in 2021. So management did their best to ruin that opportunity too.

As far as I'm concerned, we need the club back in AFL hands, because it's clear our ladder climbers sit on our board to further their own careers, with no love for the club (there have been exceptions of course).

We've had two recently past presidents that became MFC supporters just prior to sitting in the chair, and a congoline of born to rule board members that seem more interested in what the post can do for them, rather than any incisive strategy and adequate decision making.

We've got at least another newly donned board member who supported the Bulldogs until all of a sudden a MFC board position came up.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by Adam The God

5 hours ago, D Rev said:

Could not agree more. Back in 2013 (?) we had about a dozen people on the board and were an absolute basket case on and off the field. I believe the Hawks had about 4 on the board and look how they were going.

Our club does have a history of people at the top who are happy being on the board for their own ego, rather than for the fans themselves.

I don’t know anyone at board level, who are you referring to D Rev??

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

It's become increasingly clear to me that Goody and the FD won a flag in spite of the horrendous off field management of the club.

This reminds me of an interview that Pert gave in early 2024 where he lauded the team for the 2021 flag despite having "bottom 4 training facilities".

Makes me wonder what this group could have done if this club actually had it's act together.

11 hours ago, biggestred said:

Pointing at our runner being our welfare officer as a conflict of interest when the MRO played 132 games for a certain black and white club and saying nothing about that is certainly.... interesting

This is a hilariously tenuous connection to make.

1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

I don’t know anyone at board level, who are you referring to.

melbournefc.com.au

Official AFL Website of the Melbourne Football Club

Only one I've seen down at the Gosch’s training area is Green, unless unrecognisable when they are there.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by Kev

14 hours ago, Adam The God said:

We've had two recently past presidents that became MFC supporters just prior to sitting in the chair, and a congoline of born to rule board members that seem more interested in what the post can do for them, rather than any incisive strategy and adequate decision making.

We've got at least another newly donned board member who supported the Bulldogs until all of a sudden a MFC board position came up.

Not the only recent appointee whose first game as a supporter was after being appointed to the board.

21 minutes ago, Dr Don Duffy said:

Not the only recent appointee whose first game as a supporter was after being appointed to the board.

so the f what? - As long as they were appointed because of their ability, what should it matter? Do we choose players from the draft that only barrack for the Dee's? You only seem to appear when you want to stick it to the Board. And even that's ok if you have a valid complaint - but you don't this time, so this only makes you look petty.

8 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

so the f what? - As long as they were appointed because of their ability, what should it matter? Do we choose players from the draft that only barrack for the Dee's? You only seem to appear when you want to stick it to the Board. And even that's ok if you have a valid complaint - but you don't this time, so this only makes you look petty.

Im not too fussed where the CEO comes from. You want acumen over pedigree.

As to Board Members... you want the best of anyone ( who blood is red and blue )

I'd always be wondering .. why be a Melb Board member...if you're not 110% Dinky Di Dee 🤔

35 minutes ago, Dr Don Duffy said:

Not the only recent appointee whose first game as a supporter was after being appointed to the board.

9 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

so the f what? - As long as they were appointed because of their ability, what should it matter? Do we choose players from the draft that only barrack for the Dee's? You only seem to appear when you want to stick it to the Board. And even that's ok if you have a valid complaint - but you don't this time, so this only makes you look petty.

I actually think there’s an interesting debate to be had here.

Is being an MFC supporter a necessary prerequisite for being a board member?

Is there something to be said for targeting the best in class at governance irrespective of prior allegiances? Or, alternatively, is that more appropriate for the CEO and other such roles but the board is where we want MFC people who have genuine care for the club?

11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Im not too fussed where the CEO comes from. You want acumen over pedigree.

As to Board Members... you want the best of anyone ( who blood is red and blue )

I'd always be wondering .. why be a Melb Board member...if you're not 110% Dinky Di Dee 🤔

19 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Certainly needs fresh blood. Some from all ages and backgrounds. In reality just the best we can get , the caveat being we don't want a 'boyz' club in any shape or form. Need people who are club interests first... not self interest.

Sounds like you do want a boyz club.

2 minutes ago, GM11 said:

Sounds like you do want a boyz club.

I can see and will wear that critique. There is a caveat. And that's how anyone arrives at the room.

There are those of the secret squirrel wink-wink handshake brigade who only interest is their own....and there are those who genuinely want to futher the club.

Both have red and blue blood arguably. However one is selfish and the other selfless.

I'd prefer the latter. There is a difference

On 02/08/2025 at 10:28, dees189227 said:

And this is why players from other clubs won't come to us, no stability, no proper training base, no consistency on field & we are a laughing stock

Like who? I assume Dan Houston is an example (but do we know whether he was ever truly interested in coming?) Who else?

On 02/08/2025 at 10:35, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Wasn't Shannon Byrnes our player welfare office and match day runner when we won a flag

? Not sure what the issue is here.

and moved to Geelong to have the SAME duel roll. Nev Jetta been Collingwood runner at times this season. Pretty sure he's a development coach meaning he has a dual roll. Nothing more than an article filler.

20 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

and moved to Geelong to have the SAME duel roll. Nev Jetta been Collingwood runner at times this season. Pretty sure he's a development coach meaning he has a dual roll. Nothing more than an article filler.

MFC off field staff walk and chew gum at same time. Shock horror.

Sounds like waiting for another straw (the St Kilda loss) to be put on the camel's back before digging the boots in ... again.