14 hours ago, Superunknown said:

But but but it’s Darcy Moore

YES I DID!! Scum move and you know what the MRO need to either go all in or not at all, these knees he's putting into people needs to be stamped out he nearly killed a bloke for goodness sake not to mention the knee in May's head in our game.

Get a grip MRO and AFL...you want to stamp out this nonsense do it properly!

I think there's a fair chance May gets off. Being sent straight to the tribunal doesn't necessarily mean he's screwed. Sometimes it just means that the MRO doesn't feel equipped to make a ruling based on the matrix.

David King reckons May deserves 6 weeks!

wtf

14 hours ago, Redleg said:

Ed Richards knocked out an opponent with a forearm and they called it a football act, so May has a chance.

Best thing is he didn’t turn his shoulder to Evans and he was running straight at the ball and then didn’t brace or lift his arm.

Red, do you know who may's advocate will be?

i hope it's not that perpetual loser we always seem to use

Curiosity, if players are planning a fancy dinner out this week, does May get an invite?

I hope whatever the tribunal hands down, he follows doctors orders this time

The media commentary around this is disgraceful. But whats new.

Both players had a choice here and they chose not to shirk and run straight at the ball. The fact that Evans govt there a split second beforehand appears to be lost here. As is the fact that May did not deviate, did not brace, did not leave the ground and had his hands in a fwd scooping motion fully expecting to collect the ball.

Why is it only May that has a 'duty of care' ? What about Evans who saw may heading straight for the ball as well. he didn't deviate or brace for contact either.

Why does may have to be the one who stops or deviates? Why couldn't Evans move to one side and try to retrieve the ball with one hand?

I hate the AFL. Every single one of them at AFL house should be sacked.

The incident with Alex Pearce earlier in the year was worse in a number of ways yet he got off. He braced for contact and was clearly not going to get to the ball first. Oh and he left the ground

https://www.facebook.com/AFL/videos/alex-pearce-three-match-suspension/1245191583995603/

Edited July 21Jul 21 by jnrmac

Steven May is concussed. How can he gives evidence?. Or does that not matter? Surely they should wait 12 days before they hear the case. They could back date the 3 weeks he will get.

The AFL say they take concussion seriously. That is, until they don't.

29 minutes ago, DubDee said:

David King reckons May deserves 6 weeks!

wtf

King is a moron on this stuff.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by KozzyCan

36 minutes ago, DubDee said:

David King reckons May deserves 6 weeks!

wtf

David King is a typical Over Actor, you heard it here first kind of dude. 6 weeks is what Maynard should have got ( football act).

4 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

David King is a typical Over Actor, you heard it here first kind of dude. 6 weeks is what Maynard should have got ( football act).

I'm kinda thinking King has become content listening to his own voice these days.. quite a large club of such minded

1 hour ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

Steven May is concussed. How can he gives evidence?. Or does that not matter? Surely they should wait 12 days before they hear the case. They could back date the 3 weeks he will get.

The AFL say they take concussion seriously. That is, until they don't.

That's the absolute irony here isn't it.

I actually think that Steve and the MFC should play it up for all it's worth to highlight to all what a bunch of idiotic hypocrites the AFL are.

Surely the May incident was a split second collision where both players are going to win the ball. The ball doesn’t run, it’s pops up and May arrives 0.00008 second late. His shoulder hits Evans high. Accidental.

His eyes are always on the footy.

MRO Christian takes any opportunity to crucify Dees.

If he gets suspended, will we fight it? Surely we must. Dees must stand up.

2 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

I think there's a fair chance May gets off. Being sent straight to the tribunal doesn't necessarily mean he's screwed. Sometimes it just means that the MRO doesn't feel equipped to make a ruling based on the matrix.

If that was the case it would help May as we could argue and the Tribunal could rule on a number of factors associated with the cotnact.

But the MRO DID make a ruling: Careless, HIgh, Severe Impact. Onus is on the club to prove otherwise.

To be fair the MRO should have made no ruling, as you suggest. As it stands May is 'Guilty unless proven innocent'!

Edited July 21Jul 21 by Lucifers Hero

One thing that seems to have been overlooked is that ball was bouncing towards May and away from Evans, meaning Evans was running in the same direction as the ball.

I would think that the player running at the ball would more likely have a focus totally on the ball as it bounces towards him looming larger, while the player running with the ball would be, or should be more mindful of what else was in front of him as well as the ball.

Therefore bravery aside, I would think that Evans was actually more reckless than May, putting himself at risk as well as May.

Neither player if aware of the other, would have noticed any size difference between them and both just went for it.

Fate decided who came off second best but it could have been Steven May, and then it would be a different player up before the tribunal

31 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

If that was the case it would help May as we could argue and the Tribunal could rule on a number of factors associated with the cotnact.

But the MRO DID make a ruling: Careless, HIgh, Severe Impact. Onus is on the club to prove otherwise.

To be fair the MRO should have made no ruling, as you suggest. As it stands May is 'Guilty unless proven innocent'!

Thanks for using the correct “unless” instead “until”. Drives me mad

Honestly some of the comments here show superior ability to Mount a defense than Adrian Anderson ever has

They'll give him the Chair.

Run a poll, curious to see what members here think the verdict will be.

He is almost certainly getting suspended. I suggest we all just accept that now.

That way if he gets off we can feel like we have had a win! 🤣

The more I think about this the less I like it.

Cases sent directly to the Tribunal are where MRO can't decide or it is so severe the penalty should be more than the Matrix accommodates. And usually there is no MRO ruling.

So not many cases are sent directly to the Tribunal. They end up there because their club challenge the MRO ruling. eg Pierce and Xerri whose actions were ruled as May: Careless, High, Severe, 3 weeks. A challenge rarely results in a higher penalty.

But fore some reason the MRO is not following that process. He has made a ruling (3 weeks) AND sent May directly to the Tribunal exposing him to a higher penalty.

It is like he is saying to the Tribunal: I've given him 3 weeks but I reckon it should be more.

When the dust settles the club should complain to the AFL as this seems to be blatantly unfair on May relative to others eg Pierce, Xerri etc.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by Lucifers Hero

So alot of the comentator noise around May getting suspended seems to be because he has a history of rough play (is also applied to Kossie any time he's involved in something).

All these comentators seem pretty ok with overlooking this side of his history though:

Two fracture ribs.

afl.com.au

Breust goes bang after May gets crunched on wing

Luke Breust drills a much-needed goal for Hawthorn after Steven May cops some heavy contact from Mabior Chol

Fractured eye socket, concussion.

afl.com.au

'Freak accident': May to miss a month with fractured eye...

Star defender Steven May escapes a lengthy stint on the sidelines despite nasty eye injury

Add Tom De Koning to that list now.

13 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

So alot of the comentator noise around May getting suspended seems to be because he has a history of rough play (is also applied to Kossie any time he's involved in something).

All these comentators seem pretty ok with overlooking this side of his history though:

Two fracture ribs.

afl.com.au

Breust goes bang after May gets crunched on wing

Luke Breust drills a much-needed goal for Hawthorn after Steven May cops some heavy contact from Mabior Chol

Fractured eye socket, concussion.

afl.com.au

'Freak accident': May to miss a month with fractured eye...

Star defender Steven May escapes a lengthy stint on the sidelines despite nasty eye injury

Add Tom De Koning to that list now.

I think that fractured eye socket was caused by a Tom Hawkins elbow to the face, which of course was deemed accidental.

May said he lost vision in the eye for a while.

Has Moore been cited for the knees into the back of Treacy?

Has Maynard been cited for pushing Murphy Reid into the dugout?

Edited July 21Jul 21 by Redleg

Would it hurt to ask retired players about their on going opinions on Umpire Bias? Are there many of the quiet intelligent types left?

3 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

King is a moron on this stuff.

King is a moron on this stuff.

Fixed.

11 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Would it hurt to ask retired players about their on going opinions on Umpire Bias? Are there many of the quiet intelligent types left?

What would be even more interesting is to ask some of the retired umpires about this

24 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think that fractured eye socket was caused by a Tom Hawkins elbow to the face, which of course was deemed accidental.

May said he lost vision in the eye for a while.

Has Moore been cited for the knees into the back of Treacy?

Has Maynard been cited for pushing Murphy Reid into the dugout?

Also, within a week or two of Chol breaking May's ribs, I'm pretty sure he planted a knee into the back of someone's head in a similar manner to De Koning - no suspensions resulted. Of course knees to the head aren't a concussion risk though and flying for a mark in this manner is a football act, so play on.