@Demon Dynasty I think Goodwin would be more suited to the role of GM instead of Richardson.

But I doubt he’d want to stick around as GM after being removed as coach, and I don’t think any prospective coach would want him hanging around either.

But Richo should also be on the chopping block.

9 hours ago, hardtack said:

Um, actually you did: “To think that you are privy to what the players actually think of Goody just because you attend training is borderline delusional.” unless of course you want to split hairs and use the “borderline” escape clause.

No. I said, "to THINK that is borderline delusional". 

Not, "YOU are delusional". 

A clear and obvious difference. 

But to get back on topic, some great discussion on here with some thoughtful, unbiased analysis of our coach and team which is refreshing to hear on a forum that has become increasingly anti-negative anything MFC related. 

Edited March 25Mar 25 by Redleg_Knowledge

If the job was vacant today … the media list would be something like 

John Longmire 

Adam Simpson 

Jaymie Graham 

James Hird

Leon Cameron

not sure Nathan Buckley would even raise an eyebrow!! 

 

9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If the job was vacant today … the media list would be something like 

John Longmire 

Adam Simpson 

Jaymie Graham 

James Hird

Leon Cameron

not sure Nathan Buckley would even raise an eyebrow!! 

 

I don’t know anything of Jamie Graham but it’s a hard no to the rest.

I can envisage Horse fitting right in at Caulfield.

Our list deserves a look at a different style of play. (So do us fans.)

I can absolutely see the merit of it from a purely competitive position but contest and defence is the least sexy thing in AFL.

A very large portion of this board is died on supporters lamenting our boring and negative style.

The club will have a very rare opportunity this off season: they will have three proven coaches all available.

Longmire

Hinkley (yes - he has guided Port to multiple Prelims)

Simpson

I really love Goodwin for where he got us but the club really needs to think about whether he is right to do a mini-rebuild and get us back to contention.

In my view we are two seasons away, with the right drafting and player additions, from playing finals again. Unless Goodwin magically changes how he has coached for the past nine seasons, he should move on.

We definitely can't sack him. I don't think you can sack a Premiership coach. But hopefully he does the right thing for the club. Whether that is commit to changing what he does, or stepping aside.

On 25/03/2025 at 16:49, Redleg_Knowledge said:

No. I said, "to THINK that is borderline delusional". 

Not, "YOU are delusional". 

A clear and obvious difference. 

Dude, it is obviously implied. If you're going to insult someone, just own it.

30 minutes ago, praha said:

We definitely can't sack him. I don't think you can sack a Premiership coach. But hopefully he does the right thing for the club. Whether that is commit to changing what he does, or stepping aside.

We definitely can an should if the situation becomes dire. No one person is bigger than the club.

I keep thinking of The Last Dance, and MJ’s insistence on dominating the opposition. We don’t play with an energy and drive to dominate. There’s no fire, no passion, no drive, no wins.

53 minutes ago, praha said:

We definitely can't sack him. I don't think you can sack a Premiership coach.

If we’re dishing up Sunday’s effort 2 in every 3 weeks for the rest of the year and win 4 games for the year, then I think you definitely can.

16 minutes ago, Grr-owl said:

I keep thinking of The Last Dance, and MJ’s insistence on dominating the opposition. We don’t play with an energy and drive to dominate. There’s no fire, no passion, no drive, no wins.

this the same michael jordan who didn't make it out of the east in his first six seasons?

gotta have a team that plays together to succeed

26 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

this the same michael jordan who didn't make it out of the east in his first six seasons?

gotta have a team that plays together to succeed

So, let’s get one.

Some interesting analysis on the Dees and Goodwin from a Carlton fan youtuber who has branched out into analysis of other teams.

Might be of interest to some:

 

12 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Some interesting analysis on the Dees and Goodwin from a Carlton fan youtuber who has branched out into analysis of other teams.

Might be of interest to some:

 

I liked the part where he compared Goodwin to AI. Spot on IMO.

13 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Some interesting analysis on the Dees and Goodwin from a Carlton fan youtuber who has branched out into analysis of other teams.

Might be of interest to some:

 

Jesus Christ he's literally just summarising bigfooty rants at high speed.

16 hours ago, praha said:

The club will have a very rare opportunity this off season: they will have three proven coaches all available.

Longmire

Hinkley (yes - he has guided Port to multiple Prelims)

Simpson

Can't get excited about any of those. They all peaked within their first two seasons, Hinkley's teams choked in finals and Longmire's teams choked in Grand finals, and Simpson left the Eagles in the worst condition of any club since 2013.

I think we need a different mix of Assistant coaches and a new GM Football rather than a Goodwin replacement.

Wouldn't mind Craig Jennings back but unfortunately they seemed to fall out in 2019.  He is eccentric and a bit quirky but imv was very good for us and previously, WBD. 

He has been at GWS as defence coach and now Midfield/Transition coach. 

 

As an aside the GWS coaching mix and structure is really interesting with high calibre incumberns:  https://www.gwsgiants.com.au/teams/coaching-staff

 

Edited March 27Mar 27 by Lucifers Hero

13 hours ago, No. 31 said:

 

 

Thanks number 31, it's sad to say because he's an English Carlton fan, but I agree with almost his entire rant. 

I cannot understand how us fans and the club are putting up with this rubbish. 

I was shocked his contract was renewed and wonder if we'd still be putting up with this mediocrity if we hadn't pulled away from the Dogs in 2021?  Does that victory condemn us to suffer an underperforming poorly coached team forevermore?

How bad will it have to get before the new executives take action?  

simpson? absolultey not.
Hird??? that would see me ringing up in protest and melting membership cards. not a chance.

buckley no

hinkley no

longmire i would probably be keen on 

but tbh id rather a new coach with fresh ideas. maybe a hinkley or longmire understudy

 

14 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Some interesting analysis on the Dees and Goodwin from a Carlton fan youtuber who has branched out into analysis of other teams.

Might be of interest to some:

 

Well...........

There's probably any number of preconcepts to think this guy ought to be some cod eating [censored]....   but they might be the same sort of preconceptions that ought to suggest we're at least a top 8 team with street creds !! 

And you'd be wrong I think in both instances. Imho.

I kept waiting for the moment where the viewer could be forgiven for ridiculing this narration but sadly it never came. I can't help but feel the vast majority of what he said was entirely valid.

I find it always interesting to listen to non-Melbourne folk , who do have some decent understanding of the game , analyse and discuss our 'great' club. 

He may not have always hit a nail on its head but neither was he unfortunately ever far from the mark. 

Yes , it was an opinion piece.  We all have one.

There were any number of facts though within that ought to be concerning for many of us.

He's dead right about Clarksons mob giving a master-class in how to dismantle us. And we ought to care as I'm bloody sure other FDs were scribbling notes.  And London to a brick we won't be much changed when we meet these other clubs.

We're 2 for zip atm.  We might go 3 and O and then joy of joys the Kitties at their litterland !!   We are struggling for traction. We might not get ANY !!

Back to that Bluebagger weatherman  ... 

Is he just reiterating many of our grievances??  Quite possibly.  Does that make them any less valid ? That's a No for me. 

Whilst too early to panic we should be taking note of all icebergs and where the life-rafts are. Not seeing blue skies ahead.

Now some will dismiss any and all seeming negativity as just plain bad ju-ju  but it's  not me creating it....  it's that lot out there on the other side of the boundary line( plus a few in the box )... the ones running around. 

One of the few teams we've beaten in recent times, the Suns , are actually favourites currently... and on OUR turf !! That's not good.

Why do I feel like I'm  on the Minnow... again

GO Dees...  please... get going..  start whenever you like...  ( now is good 👍  ) 

Longmire has always impressed me with his tactical responses in game and

I think he has a good analytical footy mind and a ruthless desire to win (except for recent grand finals!)

He had his recent team playing fast, stylish, skillful, exciting football where you know the whole scoring goals aspect hasn't been neglected in favour of pure "contest and defence".  

I also hear straight talking sense from him and not inane management speak.

Players cop a deserved earful from him when they are playing badly and not doing as they've been instructed.  He doesn't need to constantly wrap them all up with love like delicate likkel lambs.  But he seems to have natural leadership with humour and people skills when required.  

Unfortunately I expect he's got better options than driving out to Casey fields most days.  

Why can't we get Simon to step down and ask John Longmire to  take over, the Dees need a fresh approach..