picket fence 18,187 Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Just to let everyone know, the BASKET CASE that is Smithies VFL Commences about 3 weeks after the AFL commences.. This is shizzen for all AFL clubs. How on earth can players push a case for senior selection?? The sooner the AFL revert back to ressies footy the better for ALL AFL clubs! Who gives a fat rats clacker about Port Melb, Beachport, Werribee and the others, time to revert back! 1 1 1 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,552 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Re: our opponents, it was great to see the AFL go hard with suspensions on the big names such as Thomas, McMullin, Fonti and Fahey, all household names that will miss our round 1 game. Whilst all these champions of the game didn't play in the semi final Vs Brisbane I'm sure it was due to injury as to why their services were missed. Meanwhile the no name hacks like Toby Greene, Whitfield and Idun, who were as much complicit as anyone in the ill fated end of season party, escaped with a fine. 2 2 1 1 Quote
Little Goffy 14,963 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 40 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Re: our opponents, it was great to see the AFL go hard with suspensions on the big names such as Thomas, McMullin, Fonti and Fahey, all household names that will miss our round 1 game. Whilst all these champions of the game didn't play in the semi final Vs Brisbane I'm sure it was due to injury as to why their services were missed. Meanwhile the no name hacks like Toby Greene, Whitfield and Idun, who were as much complicit as anyone in the ill fated end of season party, escaped with a fine. The suspensions were actually additional penalties imposed when the AFL HQ discovered those players already had a long record of dressing up as unimportant people, which the AFL finds offensive. This is also why the AFL issued a blanket three week suspension to the entire VFL. 1 Quote
M_9 2,216 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 So despite the fact that we have likes of Fullerton, Campbell, Johnson, and Verrall as back-up ruckmen no one has confidence in them to do the job at this stage of their career? Are we going to wait for a run of break out games at Casey by one of the aforementioned before selecting them, all the while impeding JvR’s development as a key forward? IMO the FD needs to take a punt sooner rather than later (than round 2). 1 Quote
HBDee 376 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) I don't see any way Lindsay plays round 1. Limited preseason after a knee injury last year and his first (half) of a preseason at that. Let the kid find his feet at Casey for a while, and yes I mean after round 3 when the VFL actually starts. Edited February 20 by HBDee 2 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,679 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 6 hours ago, HBDee said: I don't see any way Lindsay plays round 1. Limited preseason after a knee injury last year and his first (half) of a preseason at that. Let the kid find his feet at Casey for a while, and yes I mean after round 3 when the VFL actually starts. Done every session post Christmas. Can see him playing and being limited to say 65% game time. That said, Henderson’s addition means Sharp can move to the wing. We’ll see how the practice games go. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Probably a bit premature with a couple practice games still to come but I'll have a crack. FB: Bowey May Petty HB: Salem Lever Windsor C: Langdon Viney Billings HF: Chandler Turner Sparrow FF: Fritsch JvR Petracca R: Gawn Oliver Rivers I: Howes Langford Johnson Sharp Sub: Laurie E: Jefferson AMW Woewodin Next in line: T-mac, Hore, Lindsay, Brown, Henderson, Campbell, Adams, Fullarton, Sestan, Verrall, Mentha Sus: Pickett Injured/underdone: Tholstrup, McVee, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo, Kentfield Hoping Windsor gets up with his foot infection, has otherwise done the bulk of pre-season and should be good to go when healed. Wanted to squeeze T-mac but couldn't find a spot for him. Pickett, McVee, Tholstrup come into the 22 when able, Lindsay debut on the cards later in the year after a delayed start to pre-season. Opted for Johnson over Jefferson largely to help ruck relieve and take the burden off JvR. Hoping Jefferson can crack the team early. Henderson may surprise and take that pressure half forward/small fwd role to aid i50 pressure/retention. 2 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,679 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 6 hours ago, M_9 said: So despite the fact that we have likes of Fullerton, Campbell, Johnson, and Verrall as back-up ruckmen no one has confidence in them to do the job at this stage of their career? Are we going to wait for a run of break out games at Casey by one of the aforementioned before selecting them, all the while impeding JvR’s development as a key forward? IMO the FD needs to take a punt sooner rather than later (than round 2). No confidence in Fullarton, Campbell or Verrall. AJ has the practice games to earn his spot. But I don’t believe the ruck hurts JVR. I’m more keen to play 3 talls to take the load off Max, but I’m ok to go with 2 for fast paced March footy. 2 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: No confidence in Fullarton, Campbell or Verrall. AJ has the practice games to earn his spot. But I don’t believe the ruck hurts JVR. I’m more keen to play 3 talls to take the load off Max, but I’m ok to go with 2 for fast paced March footy. If we want yo take a punt on players far better yo do it with Jeffo than AJ Fullarton Verrall. only possible reason for their preferred place is the Rick assistance quandary. But none of them has Jeffos last season half form consistency and goal kicking base to elevate yo AFL. Jeffo should be punted with as he has a much more solid game than the others either way forward finishing skills top of the list. We need that dearly with Kossie and dare I say it Shane Mac out. Be daring and take a chance. 1 2 Quote
Oxdee 538 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 18 hours ago, M_9 said: So despite the fact that we have likes of Fullerton, Campbell, Johnson, and Verrall as back-up ruckmen no one has confidence in them to do the job at this stage of their career? Are we going to wait for a run of break out games at Casey by one of the aforementioned before selecting them, all the while impeding JvR’s development as a key forward? IMO the FD needs to take a punt sooner rather than later (than round 2). The team isn’t suited to 2 ruckman. I’d thought that was clear after the Grundy disaster 2 Quote
dpositive 1,838 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 i would hope the coaches have a much better idea than me of how to balance the demand of playing and resting enough that bodies are primed for the significant match ups. This also assumes that the whole squad can be used for injury cover as well. it also assumes that opposition capabilities are known. Match ups can provide the rest for Max (insert any other player)and a game in the first 22 for Campbell (insert any player). Im doing my best to look at opposition teams capabilities to get those match ups right but again Im sure others especially coaches have greater time and contacts to gather this information. I am really confident that we have a great squad with great depth. WE need to both expose our developing players to the intensity of top level and rest players so that they are not over extended. 2 Quote
Rob Mac...... 643 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 52 minutes ago, Oxdee said: The team isn’t suited to 2 ruckman. I’d thought that was clear after the Grundy disaster It wasn't clear after the '21 Premiership. 3 Quote
M_9 2,216 Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Oxdee said: The team isn’t suited to 2 ruckman. I’d thought that was clear after the Grundy disaster A number of other teams have a key forward playing in the ruck - Jackson, TDK, English etc - all have teammates with size when they're playing forward. Sean Darcy, Treacy, Curnow, McKay, Sam Darcy,Naughton are all big blokes. JvR is the key forward we've been crying out for since Neita retired. He needs to gain experience playing as a forward, not rucking (and being knocked about by an opponent 10cm taller and 20kg heavier) or resting on the bench. We have 'big' forwards in Turner and maybe Jefferson, but JvR is our best big forward at present. He's never going to be a ruckman, and, heaven forbid, should Max get injured, JvR won't be playing forward. He'll be rucking and resting on the bench. 2 Quote
Roost it far 10,138 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 The team I want to see take us to September: B: Bowey May Lever HB: Windsor Petty Lindsay C: Sharp Viney Langdon HF: Langford Turner Fritsch F: Pickett JVR Johnson R: Gawn Petracca Oliver I: Rivers Sparrow TMac Spargo S: Melksham E: AMW Howes Jefferson Henderson 2 Quote
BangBnagBang 773 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Roost it far said: The team I want to see take us to September: B: Bowey May Lever HB: Windsor Petty Lindsay C: Sharp Viney Langdon HF: Langford Turner Fritsch F: Pickett JVR Johnson R: Gawn Petracca Oliver I: Rivers Sparrow TMac Spargo S: Melksham E: AMW Howes Jefferson Henderson there is no way Tmac plays with that line up. 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,138 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Just now, BangBnagBang said: there is no way Tmac plays with that line up. Possibly but plenty disagree 1 Quote
BangBnagBang 773 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roost it far said: Possibly but plenty disagree The fwd line is already too tall with JVR Johnson Disco Fritch and Langford starting and your not playing 4 key backs. Do you have him in the wing rotations??? Tmac is key back depth and key back depth only. Will only play if May, Lever or Pets dont. Edited February 21 by BangBnagBang 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,138 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, BangBnagBang said: The fwd line is already too tall with JVR Johnson Disco Fritch and Langford starting and your not playing 4 key backs. Do you have him in the wing rotations??? Every time I do a team there’s multiple possible/better options that I haven’t even thought of. TMac in the bench is my defensive backup. 2 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, M_9 said: A number of other teams have a key forward playing in the ruck - Jackson, TDK, English etc - all have teammates with size when they're playing forward. Sean Darcy, Treacy, Curnow, McKay, Sam Darcy,Naughton are all big blokes. JvR is the key forward we've been crying out for since Neita retired. He needs to gain experience playing as a forward, not rucking (and being knocked about by an opponent 10cm taller and 20kg heavier) or resting on the bench. We have 'big' forwards in Turner and maybe Jefferson, but JvR is our best big forward at present. He's never going to be a ruckman, and, heaven forbid, should Max get injured, JvR won't be playing forward. He'll be rucking and resting on the bench. Thats entirely a different discussion. Campbell or AJ would probably be our No 1 and no doubt another would be in the 23. Rooy would then be the FF or CHF for starting and swapping from one to the other position as form and the game demanded. Turner would be our second key player with Jeffo hopefully in demand. 1 Quote
BangBnagBang 773 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Roost it far said: Every time I do a team there’s multiple possible/better options that I haven’t even thought of. TMac in the bench is my defensive backup. back up for what. you dont carry a 4th tall keyback as a back up. how slow do you want to move the ball. 1 Quote
adonski 13,271 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Roost it far said: The team I want to see take us to September: B: Bowey May Lever HB: Windsor Petty Lindsay C: Sharp Viney Langdon HF: Langford Turner Fritsch F: Pickett JVR Johnson R: Gawn Petracca Oliver I: Rivers Sparrow TMac Spargo S: Melksham E: AMW Howes Jefferson Henderson A Salem denier May ye burn for eternity 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,859 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Roost it far said: The team I want to see take us to September: B: Bowey May Lever HB: Windsor Petty Lindsay C: Sharp Viney Langdon HF: Langford Turner Fritsch F: Pickett JVR Johnson R: Gawn Petracca Oliver I: Rivers Sparrow TMac Spargo S: Melksham E: AMW Howes Jefferson Henderson no salem? no mcvee?!? insanity! i'll take this 23 into the premiership... B: McVee - May - Lever HB: Windsor - Petty - Salem C: Langdon - Rivers - Lindsay HF: Fritsch - Turner - Petracca F: van Rooyen - Jefferson - Pickett Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney I/c: Langford - Chandler - Howes - Sparrow Sub: Melksham Emerg: Spargo - Bowey - Campbell 1 Quote
dice 733 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Roost it far said: The team I want to see take us to September: B: Bowey May Lever HB: Windsor Petty Lindsay C: Sharp Viney Langdon HF: Langford Turner Fritsch F: Pickett JVR Johnson R: Gawn Petracca Oliver I: Rivers Sparrow TMac Spargo S: Melksham E: AMW Howes Jefferson Henderson Johnson, Lindsay, Langford complete unknowns at AFL level Sharp and Turner less than 20 games each at AFL level Spargo 2 games in the past 20 months Let's just see how the next few months go. I see Kingy has already written us off 1 Quote
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