Roost it far 10,099 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 Pay McAdam out and get this kid in. 1 2 1 1 1 Quote
MrFreeze 2,051 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 We can't hide him forever, hopefully we find a way to get him on our list this year. 3 Quote
Ghostwriter 5,401 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said: I wonder if he is part of a 'keep Kozzie at the Dees' campaign ... According to Roy the campaign was and still is unnecessary. He says Kozzie had no intentions of leaving us, nor does he now. And he added the line that I’ve heard from at least a dozen people at the Club just in this last month… don’t believe everything you read in the media. 2 4 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,715 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 16 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said: According to Roy the campaign was and still is unnecessary. He says Kozzie had no intentions of leaving us, nor does he now. And he added the line that I’ve heard from at least a dozen people at the Club just in this last month… don’t believe everything you read in the media. Comment wasn't based on media reports as I believe very little in the media! I was musing about a favourite player. I want to keep them all happy 🙃 2 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 26 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said: everything When it comes to the AFL media, I don’t believe ANYTHING. 5 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,715 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Webber said: When it comes to the AFL media, I don’t believe ANYTHING. There are still a precious few scribes who do research and don't rely on rumour, innuendo and hyperbole, 5 Quote
monoccular 17,759 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 39 minutes ago, Webber said: When it comes to the AFL media, I don’t believe ANYTHING. so you didn't believe their reports the Kozzie, Tracc and Clarrie would not be playing for MFC this year. 😮 1 2 Quote
Demonstone 23,549 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 16 hours ago, Deeman said: Who does Twain play for and what’s his position? Twain never played but he's a well regarded junior coach and mentor. One of his more successful proteges is the recently drafted "Huckleberry" Finn O'Sullivan. 2 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 56 minutes ago, Demonstone said: Twain never played but he's a well regarded junior coach and mentor. One of his more successful proteges is the recently drafted "Huckleberry" Finn O'Sullivan. Not to mention the fact that from the same playbook, last year they got the Duke with pick No.7 in the National Draft . 1 2 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said: There are still a precious few scribes who do research and don't rely on rumour, innuendo and hyperbole, True thing Luci, though they tend to be the older ‘proper’ journos who are either marginalised or have been put out pasture by their previous employers. 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,715 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Webber said: True thing Luci, though they tend to be the older ‘proper’ journos who are either marginalised or have been put out pasture by their previous employers. Agreed. I give credence to 'older' The Age scribes eg Ryan, Gleeson, Niall but as you say there aren't many left that get given a voice. Even that rag went downhill when new owners brought in McClure and Cornes. How the editors allowed some of the stuff written about us and our players during the off season is beyond me. 2 2 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,804 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 17 hours ago, Deeman said: Who does Twain play for and what’s his position? Where there is a will, there often is a way? 1 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Demonstone said: Twain never played but he's a well regarded junior coach and mentor. One of his more successful proteges is the recently drafted "Huckleberry" Finn O'Sullivan. That's Deep Water methinks 1 Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 49 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said: Agreed. I give credence to 'older' The Age scribes eg Ryan, Gleeson, Niall but as you say there aren't many left that get given a voice. Even that rag went downhill when new owners brought in McClure and Cornes. How the editors allowed some of the stuff written about us and our players during the off season is beyond me. I assume McClure and Cornes are there to appeal to a wider audience, not that I think they'll find it amongst The Age readership. Perhaps the shock jock style is aimed at the younger audience. A bit like having the Whately and Robbo combo, with Robbo there for the nuffies as well as the younger viewer. 2 Quote
Dee*ceiving 1,738 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 On 02/12/2024 at 18:50, Mickey said: While I'm not doubting anyone's info, I don't see how he can be a Cat B rookie. These are the rules Come on mate. Roy George! Sounds Irish to me... 2 Quote
Ghostwriter 5,401 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 6 hours ago, Roost it far said: Pay McAdam out and get this kid in. We haven’t 86d Shane up ‘til this point in time, why on earth would we do it now? He’s the fittest he’s ever been, he’s in the best shape of his career, he’s mentally not just well but very well (even if he’d not said it himself you can tell by his demeanour), and he has worked SO hard this preseason. Both Selwyn and Goody are really pleased with the effort he’s making. Many on here have said let’s see how he goes with a full preseason under his belt. Therefore… let’s! 😃 5 2 Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said: We haven’t 86d Shane up ‘til this point in time, why on earth would we do it now? He’s the fittest he’s ever been, he’s in the best shape of his career, he’s mentally not just well but very well (even if he’d not said it himself you can tell by his demeanour), and he has worked SO hard this preseason. Both Selwyn and Goody are really pleased with the effort he’s making. Many on here have said let’s see how he goes with a full preseason under his belt. Therefore… let’s! 😃 I'm a believer in Shane's skillset and think at his best he's a best 22 player. The question marks I have are how much more time do you give a bloke who unfortunately has a body that doesn't seem to stand up to AFL footy consistently? The fact he isn't in the main group and still effectively only completing 'run-throughs' is also a worry to me. I have no idea why and would be very curious to know why when his last game was mid August. Did he need any off season surgery? Or if its fitness based, why wouldn't he have kept up his training regime to ensure preseason day 1 that he's good to go with the main group? Is there any chance 'Ghostwriter' you could maybe get some details how he is tracking? 3 Quote
Demonstone 23,549 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said: Where there is a will, there often is a way? Where there is a will, there is often a hundred relatives. 5 Quote
Roost it far 10,099 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said: We haven’t 86d Shane up ‘til this point in time, why on earth would we do it now? He’s the fittest he’s ever been, he’s in the best shape of his career, he’s mentally not just well but very well (even if he’d not said it himself you can tell by his demeanour), and he has worked SO hard this preseason. Both Selwyn and Goody are really pleased with the effort he’s making. Many on here have said let’s see how he goes with a full preseason under his belt. Therefore… let’s! 😃 Because he’s 28, has had a nothing career to now and is one injury away from the end. Roy George on the other hand is young, energetic, electric and if you’re risking a list spot I’d go with Roy everyday of the week. Quote
bluey 1,120 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 54 minutes ago, Roost it far said: Because he’s 28, has had a nothing career to now and is one injury away from the end. Roy George on the other hand is young, energetic, electric and if you’re risking a list spot I’d go with Roy everyday of the week. McAdam is thirty in May. How about Spargs, still on one leg? Will he make it back for season starter. Could go on the LTI list. We will fit Uncle George in, there must be a plan, a cunning plan. 3 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 1 hour ago, Roost it far said: Because he’s 28, has had a nothing career to now and is one injury away from the end. Roy George on the other hand is young, energetic, electric and if you’re risking a list spot I’d go with Roy everyday of the week. Vfl last year: McAdam: 11d, 4 tackles, 4 marks, 2 goals Roy: 10d, 1 tackle, 2 marks, 1 goal I understand we are all frustrated with Shane’s first year but he’s contracted for 2 more and at least deserves the benefit of the doubt for this year to go out and play his best. Similarly Roy has talent but he didn’t even lock himself in to the Casey team last year. Assuming he’s even worthy of a lost spot is a stretch at this stage. 6 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,836 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Similarly Roy has talent but he didn’t even lock himself in to the Casey team last year. Assuming he’s even worthy of a lost spot is a stretch at this stage. he's not a lost boy anymore! i think we easily forget the situation that mcadam was coming out of, where he couldn't ever get his body 'right' this is our second summer to work with him and i'm confident our tailored program will suit him we've generally speaking taken a couple of seasons to get imports into the position where they can impact for us similarly, it's why i'm interested to see how billings goes for us in 2025 Edited December 6, 2024 by whatwhat say what 5 2 Quote
Redleg 42,143 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: Vfl last year: McAdam: 11d, 4 tackles, 4 marks, 2 goals Roy: 10d, 1 tackle, 2 marks, 1 goal I understand we are all frustrated with Shane’s first year but he’s contracted for 2 more and at least deserves the benefit of the doubt for this year to go out and play his best. Similarly Roy has talent but he didn’t even lock himself in to the Casey team last year. Assuming he’s even worthy of a lost spot is a stretch at this stage. Roy had a limited pre season if any while Shane was in an AFL system though injured. Bit hard to compare them on a couple of games given the above. 2 Quote
Roost it far 10,099 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: Vfl last year: McAdam: 11d, 4 tackles, 4 marks, 2 goals Roy: 10d, 1 tackle, 2 marks, 1 goal I understand we are all frustrated with Shane’s first year but he’s contracted for 2 more and at least deserves the benefit of the doubt for this year to go out and play his best. Similarly Roy has talent but he didn’t even lock himself in to the Casey team last year. Assuming he’s even worthy of a lost spot is a stretch at this stage. As I said if I was risking a list spot I’d go with George. I can’t see McAdam becoming anything for us. Happy to be proven wrong. George has a unique skill set and whilst he to is a long shot I think he offers more upside. 1 Quote
Ghostwriter 5,401 Posted December 6, 2024 Posted December 6, 2024 5 hours ago, Deeko2 said: I'm a believer in Shane's skillset and think at his best he's a best 22 player. The question marks I have are how much more time do you give a bloke who unfortunately has a body that doesn't seem to stand up to AFL footy consistently? The fact he isn't in the main group and still effectively only completing 'run-throughs' is also a worry to me. I have no idea why and would be very curious to know why when his last game was mid August. Did he need any off season surgery? Or if its fitness based, why wouldn't he have kept up his training regime to ensure preseason day 1 that he's good to go with the main group? Is there any chance 'Ghostwriter' you could maybe get some details how he is tracking? Shane’s on an individual training schedule, totally separate from the others and has been since preseason began. It’s fitness-based. He said this has always been an issue for him and this is the furthest he’s come in terms of achieving peak fitness (and with that comes the other benefits in the form of increased confidence and faith in himself). This is exactly where he’s at. Therefore the fact that he wasn’t in attendance from the start with the 1 - 4 year players is a non-issue. He’s on a tailored program, so it hasn’t been necessary for him to be training at the same time and place as the others. Selwyn and Tom (Couch) and assistants have got him in the great condition he’s in by catering for his needs, so to speak. I don’t know the specifics and I’d never ask, but what I do know is that whatever they’re doing… it’s working. He’s also in a great place mentally as well. He admits he’s been down on himself in the past. He’s turned a corner and it shows in everything he does. I don’t need to ask him how he’s going, he’s keen to share and does so more and more with every session. Bottom line: He has been working just as hard and for just as long as the others. 4 2 1 Quote
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