Welcome to Demonland: Harry Sharp

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MELBOURNE has opened talks with Brisbane on a deal for contracted winger Harry Sharp, who has already requested a trade to the Demons.

While the exact details of the agreement are yet to be finalised, a move for Sharp is likely to help the Lions bank picks and points to match bids on draft guns Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall.

All six picks within Melbourne's current draft hand (No.5, 28, 40, 49, 54 and 65) have points attached, with a swap of later selections that accumulates more points for Brisbane likely to make up the bones of the trade.

Sharp requested a move to Melbourne on Friday after meeting with Demons officials earlier in the Trade Period, with the tireless winger hopeful of earning more senior opportunities in Victoria next season.

The 21-year-old was restricted to just six AFL games this season and was an emergency in the Lions' victorious Grand Final-winning team.

Melbourne has been on the hunt for more running power after losing Alex Neal-Bullen to Adelaide, with Sharp the current record holder for the draft combine's 2km time trial after completing the event in 5.28 minutes to smash the previous record by 20 seconds in his draft year back in 2020.

Sharp is contracted at Brisbane for 2025, but informed the club during the week that he wished to explore his options after being restricted to just 16 games across his four seasons on the Lions' list. – Riley Beveridge

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My guess is 40, 54 and 65 for Sharp and 34 (hopefully 32).

Values sharp as pick 56 and gives the Lions close to 200 extra points for bid matching.

Keep 49 for Derksen if GWS decide to entertain a deal.

Not sure how many picks we're taking to the draft but we may be able to combine 34 and 49 to move inside 30 if GWS continue to hold firm on Derksen. That or flip one for a future pick if we aren't picking up 4 draftees.

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[Mad_Melbourne 877]

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

 

I have it from a source that Melbourne have opened negotiations with Brisbane in relation to Harry SHARP

[Adam The God 30,220]

4 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Harry Hoo?

Amazing.

[Demon_spurs 1,846]

16 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Amazing.

Moment please, 2 possibilities

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[DubDee 25,835]

2km in 5:28

good lord

 

[bing181 9,218]

4 hours ago, DubDee said:

2km in 5:28

good lord

If  he could knock a few seconds off that he'd get close to the women's world record. Or the Australian men's record. Both around 5:20.

If that 5:28 is correct it's remarkable.

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5 hours ago, DubDee said:

2km in 5:28

good lord

 

Nice time!!

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8 hours ago, bing181 said:

If  he could knock a few seconds off that he'd get close to the women's world record. Or the Australian men's record. Both around 5:20.

If that 5:28 is correct it's remarkable.

I never understood how the 2k run indicates much in football other than this is the speed a person can run 2k.

I don’t see 2k runs in games.

In other words why 2k?

 

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34 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I never understood how the 2k run indicates much in football other than this is the speed a person can run 2k.

I don’t see 2k runs in games.

In other words why 2k?

 

Amazing aerobic capability that can transfer to roles like ANB or Langdon.

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I never understood how the 2k run indicates much in football other than this is the speed a person can run 2k.

I don’t see 2k runs in games.

In other words why 2k?

 

I would think high speed and endurance better summed up by rpfc.😁

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43 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Amazing aerobic capability that can transfer to roles like ANB or Langdon.

But why pick 2k and not say 3k? Is it an accepted standard for example? 

Is it just an Aussie Rules standard?

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

But why pick 2k and not say 3k? Is it an accepted standard for example? 

Is it just an Aussie Rules standard?

2kms show speed and aerobic endurance. As you go further, endurance plays more of a part. As rotations have grown, clubs moved to 2km as more replicative of a rotation. 

Haven’t coached for 5 years but that’s why we made the move to 2km time trials/training.

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16 hours ago, DubDee said:

2km in 5:28

good lord

 

It takes me that long to get out of bed, on a good day

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2 hours ago, rpfc said:

2kms show speed and aerobic endurance. As you go further, endurance plays more of a part. As rotations have grown, clubs moved to 2km as more replicative of a rotation. 

Haven’t coached for 5 years but that’s why we made the move to 2km time trials/training.

Thanks.

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The AIS used to use interval training and some other methods to measure recovery time. I always thought that would be a better measurement for AFL. Sure you can run flat out for 2km but can you sprint full length of the field and back, recover for 20 seconds and do it all again. That’s effectively what Lingers does.

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6 hours ago, JJJ said:

The AIS used to use interval training and some other methods to measure recovery time. I always thought that would be a better measurement for AFL. Sure you can run flat out for 2km but can you sprint full length of the field and back, recover for 20 seconds and do it all again. That’s effectively what Lingers does.

Ironically, we had a bloke from the AIS get us to finish off training with repeat 100s under a decreasing time split. Blokes hated it. So glad I was the one with the whistle.

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6 hours ago, JJJ said:

The AIS used to use interval training and some other methods to measure recovery time. I always thought that would be a better measurement for AFL. Sure you can run flat out for 2km but can you sprint full length of the field and back, recover for 20 seconds and do it all again. That’s effectively what Lingers does.

Whilst not guaranteed, there’s a fair chance the bloke running 5min30snin the 2k is also pretty decent at recovering after shorter, repeated efforts. He could just run through rest periods

 

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You would assume our interest in Sharp is to 

1. allow midfield rotations for Windsor or

2. use his speed and running capacity to replace the HFF role that nibbler did effectively 

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9 minutes ago, Sydee said:

You would assume our interest in Sharp is to 

1. allow midfield rotations for Windsor or

2. use his speed and running capacity to replace the HFF role that nibbler did effectively 

I suspect he’ll get a go at both of those roles as well as a tagger for Nick Daicos types

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[spirit of norm smith 16,441]

I like what Sharp can add. Delivers run and carry and youth. His endurance is elite.  At 22, he has a strong base.  👏👏

Thought Dees could get Sharp from Lions and get trade in pick 9 from Dons 

EFC 9 for MFC future 1st and pick 28, 40  & 54 (Dons get 1300 points plus future 1st) … Dons only need 1000 points if Kako bid is say at 8-10 so it’s paid for 

Sharp for picks 48  & 65

Dees would have 5,9,46and Sharp

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4 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I like what Sharp can add. Delivers run and carry and youth. His endurance is elite.  At 22, he has a strong base.  👏👏

Thought Dees could get Sharp from Lions and get trade in pick 9 from Dons 

EFC 9 for MFC future 1st and pick 28, 40  & 54 (Dons get 1300 points plus future 1st) … Dons only need 1000 points if Kako bid is say at 8-10 so it’s paid for 

Sharp for picks 48  & 65

Dees would have 5,9,46and Sharp

Probably 49 and maybe a late 2025 pick swap to sweeten the deal for Brisbane

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25 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Some talk this has fizzled out now, will be a bit of a watch it seems.

Would be a shame if it doesn't happen, seemed like a useful move for us.

Why is that? Sharp said he was committed to joining us, and the Lions didn't seem to have any objection.