Pert and Roffey - The Review Thread

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,796]

26 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

You may well be spot on.  What concerns me most, regardless of whether the media is beating this stuff up, or not, it is doing damage to our band.  Membership attraction and retention, sponsor attraction and retention and players wanting to come to this club.

Even more importantly to me is that this bile is being leaked from WITHIN the club.  Why?

BTW, Trac's partner is a Lawyer and already taken over a substantial slab of his business dealings, away from Connors Sports Management Team, to set up their own brand.

At the very least, the head of our club needs to deal with this head on.  Seems to me, Max has been the only one to be brave, front the media and be upfront.  In such cases, it should not fall entirely to him.

Our President, in particular and the CEO, need to jump on internal leaks as soon as possible and be assertive.  They need to find out the source of these leaks and deal with the perpetrator/s.  ASAP.

Wow - didn't know that. Pretty much explains everything.

[Rednblueriseing 824]

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

From around 2:25 here:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1591000/a-sit-down-with-christian-petracca

 

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

It makes Roffey look like a dill for letting this idea hang out there for 30 hours uncorrected.

Something has happened since then, or someone's got in tracks ear, he even mentioned being on the bench in games which never eventuated?

[bing181 9,189]

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Wow - didn't know that. Pretty much explains everything.

She studied law, don't believe she's ever practised as a lawyer. 

[waynewussell 5,146]

[Lefty 412]

I wrote this in the Trac thread …

It seems that the timeline regarding the "Have you spoken/contacted Trac" question is getting quite confused. My understanding is that this line of questioning pertains specifically to her not having spoken with Trac since the situation escalated, particularly with the talk of him wanting to leave the club.

It’s possible that she, along with others at the club, might have reached out to Trac in the early stages, perhaps to check on his well-being, as is common in such circumstances. However, it appears that these welfare checks may have diminished during the Noosa break, with the players likely focused on their own football and the urgent task of trying to salvage the season. During this period, they may have started to question Trac's absence.

From what I gather, it seems that President Roffey has not made any attempt to contact Trac since the Tom Morris exclusive, which presents a poor image. However, this doesn't necessarily imply that she hasn’t been monitoring the situation or that others within the club haven’t been in touch with him.

Given her position as President, one would expect Roffey to have made an effort to reach out to Trac, perhaps to see if the relationship with the club could be mended. If she hasn’t done so it doesn’t reflect well on her leadership.

[Ted Lasso 19,164]

Pert and Roffey both need to go in my opinion, they're the heads of the ship and they're driving us into an iceburg. 

Lets get some real leadership, get a full external review of absolutely everything done and re-build the club to give us a fighting chance. 

[Adam The God 29,941]

42 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Pert and Roffey both need to go in my opinion, they're the heads of the ship and they're driving us into an iceburg. 

Lets get some real leadership, get a full external review of absolutely everything done and re-build the club to give us a fighting chance. 

Completely agree mate. And we need to do it quick-smart.

Edited August 30 by Adam The God

[Demons1858 1,742]

I am not a fan of roffey for some time mostly due to the progress of the training base and her occasional self congratulating, but she said she has told trac she is happy to meet any time

If trac doesn't want to talk then thats that

The media then say she hasnt spoken to him and his family as if to say she hasn't tried. Its a pile on and that was always going to be the case because the media want to continue to benefit from this story

Edited August 30 by Demons1858

[David-Demon 562]

On 27/08/2024 at 03:27, dazzledavey36 said:

It was awful wasn't it..

Pert is part of the problem at the MFC. He is a person baked in his own self glory.

[Skuit 10,027]

3 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

I am not a fan of roffey for some time mostly due to the progress of the training base and her occasional self congratulating, but she said she has told trac she is happy to meet any time

If trac doesn't want to talk then thats that

The media then say she hasnt spoken to him and his family as if to say she hasn't tried. Its a pile on and that was always going to be the case because the media want to continue to benefit from this story

Love this comment. We can have all our own opinions on our president, and her general performance in the job, but any grievances should be separated from the Petracca issue, not taken as a chance to burn the club down based on false reporting. I don't see the need for wholesale disruptive change, but others do. That's okay, but let's approach the issue based on facts rather than emotions and pre-conceived perceptions, especially when we have no idea what she and the board are doing behind the scenes, both on the home-base and Trac matters. 

[FreedFromDesire 898]

4 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

I am not a fan of roffey for some time mostly due to the progress of the training base and her occasional self congratulating, but she said she has told trac she is happy to meet any time

If trac doesn't want to talk then thats that

The media then say she hasnt spoken to him and his family as if to say she hasn't tried. Its a pile on and that was always going to be the case because the media want to continue to benefit from this story

This might be just my own feelings, but if Christian is refusing to talk to the club president, that's just almost as bad as Kate not having tried to contact him. In my working years I don't think I ever had a relationship with a place of employment so bad that I would flat out refuse to talk to the head of the corporation, even when things were going terribly.

Christian has now, by all reports, had multiple meetings with the players and the leaders of the playing group but is refusing to speak to the president. That's a telling situation in my view. Time to stop blaming the media and acknowledge there's clearly issues at the club.

[waynewussell 5,146]

Meet Kate Roffey (melbournefc.com.au)

[waynewussell 5,146]

I've attached a few videos to this thread to remind us about Kate Roffey's background and leadership style. They may be too long for the average punter to digest, but I think they give us some insight into her performance in her recent interview with Gerard Whateley. I don't expect anyone to change their mind about the interview, but supporters should not be surprised at how she responded. I read somewhere, quite some time ago, that Kate doesn't believe in relying on written notes when it comes to public speaking. She has trust in her ability to find the right words in responding in an honest and direct manner. It's obvious that this style didn't impress many when it came to the peppering that Whateley provided, but why would anyone be surprised by Kate's approach?  

[Whispering_Jack 29,621]

There’s a new game in town. 

It’s called “put the words in Kate’s mouth”.

Play on.

[Elwood 3184 1,298]

15 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

There’s a new game in town. 

It’s called “put the words in Kate’s mouth”.

Play on.

“Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re going to get.”

[waynewussell 5,146]

Are we making an assumption when we think that Pert and Roffey are on the same page?

[Demon17 5,141]

17 hours ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

You may well be spot on.  What concerns me most, regardless of whether the media is beating this stuff up, or not, it is doing damage to our band.  Membership attraction and retention, sponsor attraction and retention and players wanting to come to this club.

Even more importantly to me is that this bile is being leaked from WITHIN the club.  Why?

BTW, Trac's partner is a Lawyer and already taken over a substantial slab of his business dealings, away from Connors Sports Management Team, to set up their own brand.

At the very least, the head of our club needs to deal with this head on.  Seems to me, Max has been the only one to be brave, front the media and be upfront.  In such cases, it should not fall entirely to him.

Our President, in particular and the CEO, need to jump on internal leaks as soon as possible and be assertive.  They need to find out the source of these leaks and deal with the perpetrator/s.  ASAP.

Your first para nails the risks. What I don't get is how exit meeting conversations get out. Limited sources possible. So who is leaking? Goody??Trac??

My query still stands on just who is running Trac's strategy on this. 

Trac doesn't understand he's not the club. The fans are. As per the EPL.

I'm already of the view that he can stay or go. Don't care as long as the deal works for the team.

I'll happily stick to watching all other team members next season

Edited August 31 by Demon17
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[Dante 2,731]

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

Are we making an assumption when we think that Pert and Roffey are on the same page?

We may, but that doesn't necessarily mean that either are right, they could both be wrong but for different reasons.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,108]

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

Are we making an assumption when we think that Pert and Roffey are on the same page?

If they're not, that's a concern and is a reason why we should undertake an external review preferably headed by Peter Jackson if he's willing.

[Demonland 71,054]

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,859]

44 minutes ago, Dante said:

We may, but that doesn't necessarily mean that either are right, they could both be wrong but for different reasons.

 

Wow. That’s deep…

[BDA 22,652]

33 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I wouldn't be the biggest Schwarz fan but i thought he spoke quite well here.

[Sir Why You Little 36,859]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Love the Ox

have had a few Demons conversations with him over the years. 
He would be great in this situation on a mediation table, along with others. He would get both sides talking, similar to Max

[raDeelaide 248]

17 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Love the Ox

have had a few Demons conversations with him over the years. 
He would be great in this situation on a mediation table, along with others. He would get both sides talking, similar to Max

I don’t get the impression that Trac wants mediation or to mend the relationship or even for the MFC to improve whatever aspects he’s unhappy with. 

I think he wants out completely and no amount of sorrys or improvements that happen in the future do not matter to him because he will be at his preferred destination. 

Edited August 31 by raDeelaide

[Dante 2,731]

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1643280/petracca-confirms-demon-commitment