Christian Petracca

[beelzebub 23,383]

Just now, Flowergirl said:

What is the best thing the club could do now?

Start a proper rebuild 😉

[binman 43,755]

1 hour ago, 3183 Dee said:

“All of humanity's problems, stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” 

 

I can attest to that!

[Macca 17,032]

1 hour ago, praha said:

The next step now is for Petracca's camp (and potentially Collingwood or Carlton) to start over-cooking his injuries to bring his trade value down.

His injuries are very real, nothing needs to be exaggerated or over-cooked

Right now, he can't even go for a light jog and it's just 6 weeks to the trade window

What's alarming is that his heart rate can't go above 100 (for now)

During trade week (or beforehand) another suitor may well ask Petracca to go for a medical.  How is he going to pass a medical?

Now, he may well come good but when?

Let's reverse it ... would we as a club pursue a player with these obvious medical issues? 

 

[No. 31 1,309]

12 minutes ago, demoniac said:

quality not quantity need to get deal done...

I suspect that is the case, a deal probably doesn't get done.

[Fat Tony 5,262]

The club needs to make sure that the players maintain good relations with Trac over the next six weeks, especially with Wacky Wednesday tomorrow. (I think Trac probably won't attend given his injury and the situation but we don't need an incident.)

I still think it will be unlikely that we can strike a deal which is sufficient given the clubs he wants to go to have low draft capital.

We need to be confident that Trac will not be disruptive if no trade occurs and so we don't need an incident while the players are on the booze.

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

“Christian will be part of this footy club for the next five years,” Goodwin declared in his post-match press conference.

I went to bed on Friday night and slept soundly. 
 

Now I feel insomnia creeping back into my life !!! 

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

I'm guessing if Trac's mental health isn't good, he would definitely not be scrolling Demonland to read people like you calling him names

The various people I know in the footy industry have never heard of Demonland forum (sorry Andy)

But if you believe players are reading this thread, which is what the original post was, good for you. I beg to differ, take it or leave it

Nice ageist slur, btw. From what you write, I reckon I'm younger than you

Trac probably doesn’t, no. 

Younger players absolutely would, and learn quickly that it’s not advisable. 

[picket fence 17,498]

27 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Oh, this has become a messy situation now ...

I don't think the List Management at Parc de Princes had Tracc to Carlton on their potential incoming whiteboard list but looks like the Blues are being sucked into this saga now. Probably the only 'Big Melbourne' club that could make such a trade work right now.

Not really seeing Carlton entertaining any trades involving Curnow, McKay, Cripps, Walsh, Weitering or Tom De Koning. This is seen as the spine of Carlton's 3 decade long drought breaking Premiership winning team in the next few years.

Cerra for Tracc, they both get to keep their Number 5 😁 ...

Oh and the Blues throw in a first round draft pick too ... 

Pittonet could be a back up ruck to Gawn as well ... 

Other trade possibility combinations could be one of Kennedy/Hewitt, Owies, Martin, a future 1st etc ...

As DL's resident Bagger, I am more concerned with who will be available to play Brisbane in 11 days time.

 

PAAAAAARK ME CERRA Has the Hamstrings of an ant A FRIGGEN BIG NOOOOOOOO 🤮

[BDA 22,875]

1 hour ago, Macca said:

What else could the club have done with Oliver?  He goes off the rails with whatever issues he had so that's on Clarrie

As for Petracca, I'm in two minds.  One part of me just wants to just get rid of the bloke but why give him what he wants? 

Or possibly burn the $1Million per season and make him see out his contract.  Playing at Casey wouldn't do much for Brand Petracca so he'd soon come to the party

But do we want the day to day circus to continue?  This is why the player nearly always has the upper hand (if they want out)

The other glaring issue is Petracca's current fitness and if that lowers his market value.  If so, it can't be a high-end sale, more like a fire sale

And I'm wondering why more people aren't talking (here) about his ability (or inability) to ever get back to his best.  It's a very real issue with regards to getting the proper trade value for Petracca

A lot of variables for sure

A colleague at work told me the emergency team said his injuries were equivalent to a car crash victim (i can;t remeber where my colleague said he heard that from). As bad as they've seen. I've no idea know how truthful that is but there is a question mark as to whether he will fully recover.

I don't think making him play at Casey is practical. cutting our nose off to spite our face. IF Trac is that unhappy then we are forced to trade. Trac's brand would be very diminished as well so i can;t see him pushing this option either.

If the club could somehow bring in a top 10 pick and maybe a late first rounder I reckon JT would turn those into good players for us. Not sure how that could eventuate but I sure know we don't want to be bottoming out when the Tassy team enters the comp. that would be a disaster.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

37 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Trac has a contract full stop, if Trac wants to go I hope the club makes a stand and says bad luck you are honouring the contract, Trac should also swallow some concrete and harden up things happen in life that don't go your way it's how you deal with it, also sometimes people think they are more important than they are, maybe that's the case here.

Whatever is going on it needs to be cleaned up before the end of the year.

Agreed. Or if hes truly signalled intent to move on, the club should decide 100 per cent if it's beneficial for us to make a trade.

The club comes first always.

 

[DiscoStu17 789]

1 hour ago, Jjrogan said:

Any trade with the Pies obviously has to involve Beau McCreery 

About the only half decent player they’ve got under 35 whose name isn’t Daicos

[Axis of Bob 11,841]

Why is this so important that it needs a different thread to the existing CP thread?

[Demonland 73,140]

34 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

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[Demongirl35 1,060]

33 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Trac has a contract full stop, if Trac wants to go I hope the club makes a stand and says bad luck you are honouring the contract, Trac should also swallow some concrete and harden up things happen in life that don't go your way it's how you deal with it, also sometimes people think they are more important than they are, maybe that's the case here.

Whatever is going on it needs to be cleaned up before the end of the year.

Exactly!

Every footballer wants to win every single game, Play in big crowds, big games  and win as many flags as they can.
We all know that will never happen some may win 1 some may win 3 but most win none.

 

Nathan Jones, Patrick Cripps and a few others loved the club more than themselves and stuck around to help their clubs. 
 

He has one a Norm and a flag and he realistically still has a shot at another with Melbourne. 

Toby Greene and the Bont would play in front of no one for their clubs that’s how much passion they have for them. 
 

I use to watch Trac on the field and he’d always put his head down and have a whinge when things didn’t go his way (which always made me think there’s no way this guy is the next captain) but I always thought he’s frustrated because he wants us to do better… now I don’t think that at all. 

 

[demoniac 1,336]

wonder if Tracc is relying on old mate and serial bball malcontent and Ben Simmons for advice...

[Jaded No More 68,973]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'm guessing if Trac's mental health isn't good, he would definitely not be scrolling Demonland to read people like you calling him names

The various people I know in the footy industry have never heard of Demonland forum (sorry Andy)

But if you believe players are reading this thread, which is what the original post was, good for you. I beg to differ, take it or leave it

Nice ageist slur, btw. From what you write, I reckon I'm younger than you

I never said they are reading this thread. I said they probably Google their name and come to see what is being said about them. It's definitely not everyone, but as if an 18 year old isn't doing that.

And where is the ageist slur? I was making a point that most young men with an ego big enough to play footy, would be curious to see what is being said about them online.

Social media wasn't a big thing when I was 18, but I have a teenager and I can see just how they operate around this sort of stuff. I reckon you'd be shocked the amount of stuff that is written on here that gets back to players, either directly or indirectly.

And Trac wouldn't give one single hoot what anyone at our club thinks about him, let alone the supporters. 

[Abyssal 465]

If the club plays a hard line and holds him to his contact, is it possible he raises Mental health concerns (linked to his horrific injury) as leverage.

If the public’s sympathy swayed towards him it would put the club in a very awkward position.

 

 

[Jjrogan 1,439]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

A lot of variables for sure

A colleague at work told me the emergency team said his injuries were equivalent to a car crash victim (i can;t remeber where my colleague said he heard that from). As bad as they've seen. I've no idea know how truthful that is but there is a question mark as to whether he will fully recover.

I don't think making him play at Casey is practical. cutting our nose off to spite our face. IF Trac is that unhappy then we are forced to trade. Trac's brand would be very diminished as well so i can;t see him pushing this option either.

If the club could somehow bring in a top 10 pick and maybe a late first rounder I reckon JT would turn those into good players for us. Not sure how that could eventuate but I sure know we don't want to be bottoming out when the Tassy team enters the comp. that would be a disaster.

Yea starting him at Casey is a bit tongue in cheek but the bigger point is if Trac is unhappy about standards and player responsibility, he maybe can get a taste of his own preferred medicine. We have to be firm here.  Buckley is spot on

[Demonland 73,140]

12 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

The various people I know in the footy industry have never heard of Demonland forum (sorry Andy)

That's a blow I'll never recover from. I'm off to Noosa.

Too soon?

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Correct

Trac has got exactly what he wanted, a situation so bad that keeping him becomes untenable.

 

Yep. Engineered as intended. 

Leak what you want out in public, make zero statements, force the hand of the club who cannot let the place implode. 

[roy11 3,893]

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

“Christian will be part of this footy club for the next five years,” Goodwin declared in his post-match press conference.

I went to bed on Friday night and slept soundly. 
 

Now I feel insomnia creeping back into my life !!! 

worst part is there is no footy this weekend so its just going to be non-stop trac

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

We just delisted Schache. 
 

I’d otherwise post it in the relevant forum, but let’s face it, we’re all here right now. 

Anyway, back to Trac. 

The “elevating the brand” theory is bizarre. Not suggesting it’s untrue, but definitely suggesting his “brand” stands to simply become “arrogant, fickle, petulant Mummy’s boy” if he doesn’t do the necessary damage control. 
 

I’d say phase one of this elevation is losing your regular gig on AFL 360, with more general ridicule from the football world at large to follow. 

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Correct

Trac has got exactly what he wanted, a situation so bad that keeping him becomes untenable.

 

He will get what he wants in the end. He will force the club to make a pragmatic decision in a toxic situation. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

24 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

You don't give a petulant child what they want.  I hope he stays and I hope he starts Casey next year for a week.  

Plenty of players have been dropped for far less showing a lack of respect for their teammates and the club.  

I’d play him the entire season at Casey. 

[Macca 17,032]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

A lot of variables for sure

A colleague at work told me the emergency team said his injuries were equivalent to a car crash victim (i can;t remeber where my colleague said he heard that from). As bad as they've seen. I've no idea know how truthful that is but there is a question mark as to whether he will fully recover.

I don't think making him play at Casey is practical. cutting our nose off to spite our face. IF Trac is that unhappy then we are forced to trade. Trac's brand would be very diminished as well so i can;t see him pushing this option either.

If the club could somehow bring in a top 10 pick and maybe a late first rounder I reckon JT would turn those into good players for us. Not sure how that could eventuate but I sure know we don't want to be bottoming out when the Tassy team enters the comp. that would be a disaster.

I was being flippant with the whole Casey thing ... it won't come to that but in overseas sport, that sort of thing does happen especially in soccer (although, it's usually the player laying down the tools)

And I'd be inclined to believe your work colleague

His trade value is totally up in the air with any number of variables at play.  So expecting a raft of top end picks is highly questionable

In fact, his value might be so low that we just keep him on the books and hope he does the pro thing